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by CPADave71
Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:44 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1572: "xkcd Survey"
Replies: 366
Views: 127671

Re: 1572: "xkcd Survey"

Correct
Horse
Battery
Stapler
Password

Guaranteed to be the most common answers (they were mine).

Also, my misspelled word was "occasionally" as well. It's like we're a hive mind.
by CPADave71
Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:33 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

But you see, that can be turned the other way. If your philosophy is that unbridled self-interest is bad, and government intervention is good, then you look for ways to prove that is true. Sure, it can be. But that's not my philosophy. I take a bit of a more utilitarian approach: if it works, it wo...
by CPADave71
Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:15 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

Well, for starters, I wouldn't refer to their beliefs as "denialism" which are invariably "incorrect". That gets you nowhere. Deniers don't post on forums because they're open to being informed. No, they do it because they're angry, because (for many of them, at least,) sound sc...
by CPADave71
Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:56 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

http://mises.org/daily/5892/The-Skeptics-Case I would be very interested to see where this article has its facts wrong. This is as complete and seemingly well-sourced a takedown of the climate models as I've seen. It's convincing to me, and I'm sure to many, many others as well. http://www.skeptica...
by CPADave71
Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:19 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

http://mises.org/daily/5892/The-Skeptics-Case

I would be very interested to see where this article has its facts wrong. This is as complete and seemingly well-sourced a takedown of the climate models as I've seen. It's convincing to me, and I'm sure to many, many others as well.
by CPADave71
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

Geekoid, "Onus," not "onerous." You say that plants are carbon neutral. Does that mean that additional plant growth does not remove CO2 from the atmosphere? Or just that it doesn't do so as quickly as we emit it? In your step-by-step analysis of Global Warming (which really shoul...
by CPADave71
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:27 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"
Replies: 879
Views: 149867

Re: 1379: "4.5 Degrees"

Red Hal, http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/13/11209/2013/acp-13-11209-2013.html And here's a link showing why your realclimate link is wrong. A debunking of the debunking, as it were. This study showed Arctic cooling from 1998-2011. Cowton and Way depended upon dramatic Arctic warming in that period th...
by CPADave71
Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:47 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107233
Views: 50047503

Re: 1190: "Time"

Over 300 time frames and hundreds of posts since 184 and 186 when cueball removed the two flags from the center structure, and no one has wondered where they went? I might also point out that since Megan brought in the miniture trebuchet in 404 and placed on the small copy of the overall scene, the...
by CPADave71
Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:35 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Actually, whl, that should be the new rule - Twitter-length posts! That would be fun!
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:30 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

By the way, I can't believe you brought the Simpsons into a deep theological discussion! I'm shocked! But Mr. Burns wasn't unarmed, it was his gun that fell from his holster that Maggie used to shoot him. At the moment she shot him, he was unarmed, but since he already produced one weapon, Maggie mi...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:27 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

TheNgaiGuy, Now my post got caught in the edit crossfire! I acknowledged that this doesn't really address your point. In a legal sense, a person can be considered not guilty by reason of insanity when they are incapable of comprehending the consequences of their actions. That is clearly not the case...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:56 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

**sigh** I posted the reply too quick without thinking about it enough and Pfhorrest responded to my post before I could edit it... Okay let me try again... it's in the edit, but oh well... Is it possible for some someone to know something is wrong absence of knowledge of consequences? After all do...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:41 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Pfhorrest, I think you've explained my thoughts better than I did. Thank you. Keep in mind, I'm really not intending this discussion to be apologetic in nature. I'm just telling you my thoughts on various issues, acknowledging that they may be wrong in some cases, and identifying potential alternate...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:13 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

The argument is that if Adam and Eve had no concept of good and evil or right and wrong, they couldn't possibly know that disobeying god is wrong and therefore to punish them for that is absurd. If you argue that Adam and Eve did have a concept of being right to obey god and wrong to disobey then t...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:57 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Let me add that the questions you're asking are not silly questions. They're important, and they've been asked for thousands of years. The thoughts and analogies I'm giving you are mine alone, and to my mind, they solve the issue quite nicely. However, I can see how someone could still be tripped up...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:49 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

The argument is that if Adam and Eve had no concept of good and evil or right and wrong, they couldn't possibly know that disobeying god is wrong and therefore to punish them for that is absurd. If you argue that Adam and Eve did have a concept of being right to obey god and wrong to disobey then t...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:10 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, As I said, there is a difference between being able to judge for yourself what is right and wrong, and being able to understand whatever language God was speaking. Adam and Eve were perfectly capable of understanding that it would be wrong to eat from the tree, because God told them not to do i...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:53 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Tossing out religion like the plague it is, is a good thing. And tossing out much if not most of the religious "moral" codes is a good thing as well. But let's not toss out the baby with the bathwater...a few of the moral codes that religion has tried to claim credit for are in fact ethic...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

In their created state, Adam and Eve were incapable of sin, because they had no internal mechanism for determining right from wrong. But God gave them one rule: don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Ding! Do you really not see this logical inconsistency? If they didn't know rig...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:51 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Whether or not the moral codes are antiquated is the subject of a mini-debate in itself. I.e., is incest wrong if it doesn't result in deformed babies? My view is that the incest taboo is as much to do with limiting the use of family emotional power structures to force sex as it is to do with defor...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:50 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Sorry to harp on you again, Dave, but you opened a door for something that has always troubled me: I believe that, as it relates to Heaven or Hell, sin is a state of being rather than an action. I was born with the stain of the sin of Adam, and because of that, I was spiritually dead and separated ...
by CPADave71
Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

It's probably because we're not bounded by ridiculous stuff like masturbation is a "sin". Yeah, that's what "these results are due to the repressive effects of the co-occurring antiquated moral codes propagated by the fideistic belief systems which are the most common vector of theis...
by CPADave71
Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:22 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, If I were in a slightly more condescending mood, I'd tell you that what you now perceive as a large crowd sending you micro-signals of hostility was actually the Spirit moving you, and that you have now imagined this hostility to explain how you could have had such an experience, when you don't...
by CPADave71
Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:37 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, I'm sorry that you had such a scary "conversion experience." Of course, based on what you said, it probably wasn't a conversion experience at all. You didn't really believe what you assented to, you just went along with the crowd. I know that situation. I've seen that situation. And I...
by CPADave71
Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:47 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

Pfhorrest, not only has your brief spoon-having metaphor concisely summarized several points I've been trying to make, it also made my day. Spoon-having *giggle* Genius. With how the week is going so far, I might as well say it's made my week too. In conjunction with whl's comic, of course. Brillia...
by CPADave71
Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:26 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

TheNgaiGuy, Thank you. I respect your feelings as well, and I fell like I understand them, because every objection you've raised is one I've already battled. I've stared into that abyss, and found my faith renewed. I wouldn't even say that I disagree with you. I don't take issue at all with your as...
by CPADave71
Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:36 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

CPADave71, I want to make this clear. I respect your beliefs as it seems very well thought out even though I disagree with them and I find no reason to believe a god exists. I find your beliefs the more respectable way to deal with god since your not out to destroy what science has done like many o...
by CPADave71
Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:29 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, I do want to clear up one misunderstanding. You seem to have confused me with an evangelical who seeks to convert everyone he meets. Well...um...you did say: "I want to understand it all completely, and to be able to articulate it in a way that would lead everyone else to that same unders...
by CPADave71
Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:38 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, While I am loathe to respond to your posts, given their increasingly confrontational and aggressive tone, I do want to clear up one misunderstanding. You seem to have confused me with an evangelical who seeks to convert everyone he meets. Because I believe in the doctrine of election, I believe...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:43 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

TheNgaiGuy, You have hit on the perfect word. I am a presuppositionalist. Dyed in the wool. I believe there is a God because I believe it. And that belief informs my view of the world around me. So what makes one person presuppose God and one person presuppose Not God? And what of the people who sta...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:46 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

whl, At what point in anything I've said did I say that science was wrong or irrelevant? I believe God has revealed himself in two ways: general revelation (the natural world) and special revelation (Jesus and the prophets, as recorded in the Bible). It always amazes me that scientists aren't the mo...
by CPADave71
Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:30 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

What I find amazing about this thread is that so many atheists spend so much more time and effort trying to understand Christianity than most Christians do. That's not a knock on atheists - it's a knock on Christians. The vast majority of Christians are Christians because they were raised that way, ...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

it doesn't matter what path you use to seek God, as long as you seek him, you'll find him (please forgive my probable complete misunderstanding of the Hindu faith). I want to believe that God loves every single human being that he created equally, that he desires fellowship with all of them, in thi...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:13 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

There is an alternative that makes God less maleficent. Perhaps the Universalists are right that everyone goes to Heaven. Perhaps it is only fellowship with God here on Earth that is dependent upon faith and/or election. Perhaps Christ died on the cross for everyone's sins, enabling us all to go to ...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

furyguitar, I SAID it was a difficult concept! :) There's nothing fair about the doctrine of election. But there's also nothing fair about the doctrine of free will, given that I, as a U.S. Citizen raised in a Christian home and educated in Christian schools, had an enormous advantage in finding a p...
by CPADave71
Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:13 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0774: "Atheists"
Replies: 1042
Views: 182840

Re: "Atheists" discussion (#774)

mric, My disagreement would be with number 2. It's something I've struggled with my whole life, but I've finally accepted the doctrine of election. Number 1 is obviously true, but does not go far enough. The message of Christ is not an invaluable help to our salvation, it is the means of our salvati...

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