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by Indon
Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:20 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Jesse Jackson Jr. : Progress Bad
Replies: 56
Views: 4728

Re: Jesse Jackson Jr. : Progress Bad

The way I see it, the process goes: 1.People discover new ways to do things better. Not problematic - quite awesome in fact. 2.People practicing the old ways are personally harmed as their jobs become obsolete. This is problematic because it reduces the stability of an economy and makes personal eco...
by Indon
Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:01 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Bullying
Replies: 47
Views: 7774

Re: Bullying

Diadem wrote:Schools are in fact, exactly like prisons.


In principle, but not in substance. There is much less rape and murder in schools than in prisons because those children generally haven't been taught to rape and murder yet.
by Indon
Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:54 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Democracy 2.0
Replies: 35
Views: 5045

Re: Democracy 2.0

I would posit that the current most 'developed' government type is not simple democracy, but democracy in which multiple, conflicting powers are able to continually check each other, each of them ultimately democratically influenced. I would submit then that a government in which everyone, individua...
by Indon
Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:27 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Freewill [Philosophy]
Replies: 189
Views: 28291

Re: Freewill [Philosophy]

What does it mean to "know"? If the information is programmed into a computer's memory, does it know? If self-awareness is required, then including that as an explicit criteria would make it clearer. Also, people with self-awareness often make choices without thinking about actions, or pe...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Abortion and Women's Rights
Replies: 479
Views: 41747

Re: Abortion and Women's Rights

We were talking about the case of a premature baby. In the abortion case, there absolutely is active killing going on. They make sure the fetus is dead before they remove it. Simply unhooking yourself would be closer to actually just having the baby. Unless the baby is late-term (See Azrael's post)...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:06 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Abortion and Women's Rights
Replies: 479
Views: 41747

Re: Abortion and Women's Rights

So there was an analogy to hooking yourself up to another adult to keep them alive. Let's say at a certain point after you've been hooked up long enough, you could unhook yourself from that person in such a way that would be invasive and uncomfortable, but may leave the other person alive. In a wea...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

And if you go to a store, you might notice price tags on items. You only buy them if your value for them exceeds the value of the money you have to spend to get them. Those prices are just numbers. Buying something is a binary choice with a definitive meaning. Imagine if people set the prices for t...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Abortion and Women's Rights
Replies: 479
Views: 41747

Re: Abortion and Women's Rights

@indon you have an interesting idea. What I consider an appropriate wage for bearing and raising a child would be pretty large! How about the equivalent to the CEO of Goldmann Sachs? I'm pretty sure that eminent domain draws upon market value for the goods and services provided - so I'd posit somet...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Freewill [Philosophy]
Replies: 189
Views: 28291

Re: Freewill [Philosophy]

The only question is when it's practically valuable to hold people culpable. And exploring the concept of free will, which is the state required to be culpable, can do that. No profound understanding we don't have is required. Each of the criteria I posit suggests a non-punitive corrective action f...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:08 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Abortion and Women's Rights
Replies: 479
Views: 41747

Re: Abortion and Women's Rights

Okay, the thread seems to have covered the basics (though I prefer to describe the right of bodily autonomy as a right of property, so that more libertarian folk can better get the idea), so I'll try to contribute something novel. Thoughts on the following situation in which abortion is made illegal...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:53 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Bullying
Replies: 47
Views: 7774

Re: Bullying

Have any of you considered that engaging in violence, verbal abuse and other forms of cruelty as a response to bullying could further reinforce social structures which are conducive to it? This doesn't change the fact that you need to shank somebody or join a gang in a prison: In an immature social...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:43 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

"Ambivalent" is not a number. It doesn't "mean" anything. A 50 out of 100 means a utility which is the exact average of one's utility for his favorite and least favorite candidates, and so forth. Yeah, that's my point. Preferences don't exist in numerical form, and when people t...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:33 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Freewill [Philosophy]
Replies: 189
Views: 28291

Re: Freewill [Philosophy]

The practical definition is what interests me. Normal, rational people have what seems like free will, so let's just call it that. Then it's just a matter of what are the defining characteristics that separate us from those that don't have it. This could be humans in a reduced mental state, or it c...
by Indon
Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:58 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

Broken, I address a post, essentially, to you six posts up regarding how the system you posit lacks Universality because, using a subjective metric, people will vary their preference reporting from election to election. Comments would be appreciated.
by Indon
Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:58 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

I don't know what you mean it doesn't "look credible". It is a simple proof by example. Warren states the criteria that form Arrow's Theorem, and then demonstrates how Score Voting satisfies all of them. At a glance, any system in which voters assign arbitrary measurements of 'like', or s...
by Indon
Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Freewill [Philosophy]
Replies: 189
Views: 28291

Re: Freewill [Philosophy]

Neither seems like a falsifiable concept so it doesn't seem to be worth debating as far as I'm concerned. Generally I throw my hat in with the determinist crowd that points out we've never found a natural process that has free will and we've never found evidence that humans are anything but a (comp...
by Indon
Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:34 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Should campaign promises be binding?
Replies: 39
Views: 8275

Re: Should campaign promises be binding?

Okay, so I'd like to propose a related concept that removes some of the downsides of making campaign promises binding: Imagine the establishment of a 'persistent poll', one which tracks the preferences of all citizens in a constituency on a variety of different topics, and which allows citizens to r...
by Indon
Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:28 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

I think it also require more than 2 party as well, does it not? But even with this in, I am not sure what I want to drop out. There are advantages of having more than 2 parties. I think that's a part of Universality? If only because it's the concept I had the hardest time trying to convert from jar...
by Indon
Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Freewill [Philosophy]
Replies: 189
Views: 28291

Re: Freewill [Philosophy]

The following bases an argument regarding 'free will' based on the Arminianist view: I would claim that the deterministic or non-deterministic features of the universe is irrelevant to this concept of free will. Let's posit that the universe were largely or wholly non-deterministic in this manner, t...
by Indon
Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:58 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)
Replies: 186
Views: 24438

Re: Alternate Voting Systems (Range, Condorcet etc)

Wow, this is a well-aged thread. Just swinging by, but I think I can contribute a bit. Can someone with good game theory background check whether range voting avoids Arrow's impossibility theorem? The wiki article claims that it does, but the cited source doesn't necessary look credible. (If it is s...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:24 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Iran: Our theocracy isn't dickish enough to women.
Replies: 142
Views: 14199

Re: Iran: Our theocracy isn't dickish enough to women.

yoni45 wrote:What percentage of the populace do you think gets parking tickets? I'd imagine it's more than 12%. Shall we draw the same implications?


Iranian women are all going five miles over the decency laws?
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:22 pm UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: ITT: Describe yourself using TV Tropes.
Replies: 25
Views: 5789

Re: ITT: Describe yourself using TV Tropes.

Hmm. I'm a somewhat badass bookworm , a would be science hero fighting for Team Enlightenment . At the moment, I'm fairly interested in training the peaceful villagers to fight megacorp -related evil. In my free time, I'm a multiclass mediator / shepherd (for lack of a class that describes wanting t...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:43 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: Evaluating media outlets
Replies: 14
Views: 2074

Re: Evaluating media outlets

If you're going to have standards, I'd say you should describe some objective criteria for those standards. How often does a news network bring in 'consultants' as opposed to reporters, for instance?
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Iran: Our theocracy isn't dickish enough to women.
Replies: 142
Views: 14199

Re: Iran: Our theocracy isn't dickish enough to women.

Uh-huh... so we're fine because our level of oppression is at a lower level. Which, is somehow acceptable, while a more restrictive level of the same type is not. That's not arbitrarily self serving at all. If we can agree that lower levels of oppression are better, then so long as we work to lower...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: An alternative to progressive redistribution of wealth
Replies: 186
Views: 21062

Re: An alternative to progressive redistribution of wealth

Poor people have more saved money than wealthy people? I was under the assumption that much of the poor had large amounts of debts cancelling any amount of savings they had. If 100% of my wealth is in money, and 10% of Uncle Moneybags' wealth is in money, and magical hyperinflation halves the value...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: The Insanity Defense
Replies: 11
Views: 3821

Re: The Insanity Defense

MiB24601 wrote:In short, the insanity defense is necessary and while it would probably be simpler to have a single standard, it's not going to happen for a while, if ever.


If the insanity defense were somehow magically removed, do you think a general competency standard would replace it?
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Unknown Unknowns
Replies: 16
Views: 2746

Re: Unknown Unknowns

morriswalters wrote:The point about the Dunning-Kruger effect is that it effects everyone.

This is self evident. If people who were wrong were reliably able to realize they were wrong, then people would be wrong way less than they are at present.
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:06 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Racism and Over-Tolerance
Replies: 120
Views: 15794

Re: Racism and Over-Tolerance

So, because we have yet to describe it to your satisfaction, possibly because, it's a really complicated multi-gene mess, you are going to assume that there is no genetic component in intelligence, despite the high rate of heritability. Not just that it hasn't been described well, but that the fiel...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: An alternative to progressive redistribution of wealth
Replies: 186
Views: 21062

Re: An alternative to progressive redistribution of wealth

Hm. This is an interesting argument, but I'm not sure it's enough to counteract the problems with a progressive tax system. I suspect percentage of income saved is somewhat durable over one's lifetime and income ranges- and I think it's a mistake to categorize high incomes as savers and low incomes...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:43 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: UK VAT rate to be raised to 20% in Jan 2011
Replies: 86
Views: 7501

Re: UK VAT rate to be raised to 20% in Jan 2011

Eew, VAT. Why not use sales taxes, if you want to target consumption?
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:39 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Racism and Over-Tolerance
Replies: 120
Views: 15794

Re: Racism and Over-Tolerance

What about the link i pointed out which showed that intelligence was highly heritable? Nearly the same heritability as height? I didn't catch that link, but unless things have changed, it's probably about Jensen's and Bouchard's work, which I'm familiar with. They do a lot of statistical work to de...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Unknown Unknowns
Replies: 16
Views: 2746

Re: Unknown Unknowns

"Unknown unknowns" are a fact of life in military situations, and huge amounts of military intelligence resources are dedicated to turning them into at least "known unknowns". Rumsfeld was blowing smoke out his ass. The concept he describes is not new and frankly, he wasn't even ...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Market Anarchy
Replies: 209
Views: 28212

Re: Market Anarchy

Just keep in mind, the problem you will face when seeing a solution is that you will come up with another problem and then stop there, as opposed to being curious as to how to solve the problem that you thought up. Okay. How about instead of pointing out all the practical problems in your argument,...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:49 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Racism and Over-Tolerance
Replies: 120
Views: 15794

Re: Racism and Over-Tolerance

Ok, since I've explained his argument, let's see if you can do the same. What was Summers' argument, pointing out unsupported statements? How about I quote his argument? So my best guess, to provoke you, of what's behind all of this is that the largest phenomenon, by far, is the general clash betwe...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let us agree upon definitions.
Replies: 6
Views: 1418

Re: Let us agree upon definitions.

A single agreed-upon set of definitions isn't going to work on a broadly different set of discussions because definitions can and do change with context. And once we're arguing about definitions contextually, we've lost any timesaving value such an idea would have, because now instead of arguing abo...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:53 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Are there too many undergraduates?
Replies: 75
Views: 9322

Re: Are there too many undergraduates?

For example, someone who wants to get an education in English but expects to get a job in a largely unrelated field is probably better served by starting their job 30 hours a week out of high school, and then doing some sort of intensive book club for 10 hours a week for sixteen years, than having ...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:44 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: CFTC allows futures trading in Box Office opening sales.
Replies: 48
Views: 4505

Re: CFTC allows futures trading in Box Office opening sales.

The Smartest people allocating where the world's investment capital goes does seem like the best way to allot funds. Allowing the smart money to dictate which things get funding through natural self interest makes a lot of sense. Sure, but that's not what futures trading is. Smart people can alread...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: File-sharing has weakened copyright—and helped society
Replies: 20
Views: 5396

Re: File-sharing has weakened copyright—and helped society

Well, if we describe total artistic product as the metric which helps society, then it's a wash - we simply don't have the data to state a definitive impact for file sharing on artistic product, though this also undermines industry arguments to the contrary. I suspect what the authors are trying to ...
by Indon
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Australia going all-in with its government-run fiber network
Replies: 6
Views: 861

Re: Australia going all-in with its government-run fiber net

Australia's going to have the best internet that can't be used the world has ever seen.
by Indon
Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Wikileaks, Garani and supposed US military abuses
Replies: 25
Views: 3734

Re: Wikileaks, Garani and supposed US military abuses

IMO, videos like this being leaked force the US military to take more responsible, ethical - and ultimately more effective - approaches to this sort of warfare. We can't beat terrorism by killing civilians - killing civilians makes more terrorists. We could theoretically beat terrorists by bombing a...

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