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by arbiteroftruth
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:03 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why isn't "rightism" a thing?
Replies: 24
Views: 1140

Re: Why isn't "rightism" a thing?

it occurs to me also that “liberal” and “progressive” just sound like good things from the name, and maybe right-wingers who think the left is anti-liberty and not actually for true progress don’t want to concede the left’s self-labels. I think that's basically it. You have some of the more liberta...
by arbiteroftruth
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:04 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: How capitalist free markets can be used to save the environment
Replies: 51
Views: 3278

Re: How capitalist free markets can be used to save the environment

Also, Ranbot, I feel like I should point out that capitalism doesn't actually drive technological innovation -- people don't usually invent stuff because they want money. They do it because they're passionate about something; getting paid is just a neat side-perk. I'm an electrical engineer in an R...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:23 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Judea Pearl's Critism of Machine Learning
Replies: 18
Views: 9692

Re: Judea Pearl's Critism of Machine Learning

As I see it what he's saying is similar to this: The ideal gas law states that PV=nRt . Knowing that, how do we know that the statement "We doubled the moles of gas while keeping temperature and volume constant, thus doubling the pressure." is a reasonable statement, but not "We doub...
by arbiteroftruth
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:12 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

"A" judge, sure. An entire judicial system lasting several generations: only if it's either limited in scope (such as not presiding over political truth), or ultimately accountable to the people (such as appointed by elected politicians).
by arbiteroftruth
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:00 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Why is it controversial to say that a politician shouldn't be allowed to flat-out lie? If the worry is that people will overstep their bounds and try to prosecute politicians for statements that are controversial (rather than flat-out fraudulent), then why shouldn't we expect the judges to do their...
by arbiteroftruth
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:25 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

However one slices it, as soon as your politicians are held accountable to some body that isn't ultimately accountable to the people, you no longer have a democracy. You have a system of government defined by that body that rules the politicians. If that ruling body is genuinely more impartial and ...
by arbiteroftruth
Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:58 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

However one slices it, as soon as your politicians are held accountable to some body that isn't ultimately accountable to the people, you no longer have a democracy. You have a system of government defined by that body that rules the politicians. If that ruling body is genuinely more impartial and f...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri May 31, 2019 3:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Right, but we don't prosecute over 'vague' claims. If you say "My pill is the best one on the market!", you're not going to face any serious litigation. And if you say "The Iraq War was the best thing ever!", I don't see why you should face litigation for that , either. As it st...
by arbiteroftruth
Thu May 30, 2019 8:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

It isn't, and that's the point. The exact line between free speech and libel is already a complicated and controversial thing, and now the proposal is to extend that to all of political speech.
by arbiteroftruth
Thu May 30, 2019 8:44 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

The proposal was that politicians be "legally constrained to speak only the verifiable truth". Regardless of who does the legwork of verifying any specific thing, the institution that defines the standards of what legally counts as adequate verification has enormous power, and all the stuf...
by arbiteroftruth
Thu May 30, 2019 8:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

Thesh wrote:
arbiteroftruth wrote:"Verified by whom?" is the downside. All the existing political BS just gets shifted to whatever institution decides what's true enough to be legal to say.

Why do you need an institution to determine that? Why not figure it out in court?


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The courts are an institution.
by arbiteroftruth
Thu May 30, 2019 4:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 1474
Views: 242628

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

I'm not seeing a downside to politicians being legally constrained to speak only the verifiable truth while in office. If we had that here in the U.S. our current national nightmare would've been over by day three. "Verified by whom?" is the downside. All the existing political BS just ge...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed May 22, 2019 4:30 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2124
Views: 358770

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

If it were as simple as "the Starks control the throne", I'd agree. But they made it pretty clear that the throne is no longer hereditary. Sure, it's a Stark *this* generation, but who's the next monarch gonna be? Someone chosen by the lords and ladies of Westeros, and the Nor...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed May 22, 2019 3:34 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2124
Views: 358770

Re: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)

Sansa wanting to rule an independent North could make sense if the North had spent a long and grueling campaign against the White Walkers without any support from the Southern kingdoms. Wait, you're including the North wanting independence as something that was rushed? The North has been yearni...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed May 08, 2019 10:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2020 Presidency Campaign for the Future
Replies: 127
Views: 9974

Re: 2020 Presidency Campaign for the Future

The question is "what is the nature of the activism needed to bring about your idea?" You've said it's not political activism to enact laws regulating journalism standards. Is it economic activism of directly creating and/or supporting new news agencies (changing the supply side of the mar...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed May 08, 2019 9:38 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Avengers: Endgame
Replies: 133
Views: 5969

Re: Avengers: Endgame

Given what we've seen of Steve, do you really think him being told "No" would stop him from punching every Hydra agent he could get his hands on? I just don't see him staying in the same timeline we saw, though I have no idea how he got to the park bench without staying in the tim...
by arbiteroftruth
Tue May 07, 2019 7:17 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Avengers: Endgame
Replies: 133
Views: 5969

Re: Avengers: Endgame

Here's what I gathered about time travel, from the movie only. From the conversation between Banner and The Ancient One, the timeline branches if and only if a time traveler takes an infinity stone, because the stones govern the flow of time. But the new branch can be erased if the time travele...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed May 01, 2019 7:56 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Is it possible to escape from a black hole using another black hole?
Replies: 56
Views: 3531

Re: Is it possible to escape from a black hole using another black hole?

There is one sense in which you could (at least temporarily) 'escape' the original black hole. When the second black hole gets close enough, it will be possible to escape the Schwarzchild radius of the original singularity, and even to reach a point that is outside the Schwarzchild radii of both ind...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

The phrase in question isn't "call for violence", it's "openly calling for left wing activists to be rounded up and executed", which would be in an entirely different league of atrocity. As in, "why are we not already in an open civil war if that's the case?" level of a...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

Republican politicians are openly calling for left wing activists to be rounded up and executed I'm gonna need a source on that one. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/20/matt-shea-rightwing-messages-chat-records The first sentence from that article: " A Washington state Republican pol...
by arbiteroftruth
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

Thesh wrote:Republican politicians are openly calling for left wing activists to be rounded up and executed


I'm gonna need a source on that one.
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6884
Views: 1110860

Re: Police misbehavior thread

That's just a matter of cost/benefit. Given the choice between A: incremental reforms of our existing flawed system, or B: an incredibly complicated overhaul of our most basic social concepts with no compelling argument to expect drastic improvements over what we could achieve with option A, why wou...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:32 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6884
Views: 1110860

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Okay, so it's an awful lot of work, not reasonable to fit into a forum post, and incredibly complicated. Fair enough. But then, why would you conclude that people who don't already agree with you are simply too lazy to do "the bare minimum of work" to understand your ideas, when your ideas...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6884
Views: 1110860

Re: Police misbehavior thread

Thesh, this line of discussion started because you said Sableagle didn't want to do "the bare minimum of work to try and understand how to organize society without laws". But now you're saying that it's not reasonable to expect you to outline it in a forum post. It would seem that "th...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:25 pm UTC
Forum: Computer Science
Topic: Alternative to floating point: "supernormal" numbers and tracking uncertainties
Replies: 0
Views: 1369

Alternative to floating point: "supernormal" numbers and tracking uncertainties

I’ve been developing an alternative floating point format (conceptually anyway; I haven’t created an actual implementation). It follows a similar structure as the IEEE standard, but is designed to have a symmetric dynamic range (maximum finite value and minimum finite value are reciprocals of each o...
by arbiteroftruth
Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6884
Views: 1110860

Re: Police misbehavior thread

How many 11-year-olds does your company employ?
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:00 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

Again, laws make implicit judgements that the party who broke the law is in the wrong. That will influence the jury, and in practice the juries will likely just defer to the law. What, exactly, is your concern with not codifying murder? That people aren't going to recognize killing is wrong? Look i...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

Juries determine the facts, not the law, and they have proven to be terrible and tend to defer to police judgement. And again, you still have the same problem - you aren't explaining how we can enforce the law consistently. The laws are only serving to protect the police from liability if they arre...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

The point is that laws don't solve the problem that you are using to justify laws. You can't make a judgement without looking at the situation as a whole, since every situation is different. Even then, laws themselves are not consistent with each other and until you can develop a universal theory o...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:19 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

in practice every single arrest any police officer makes is a contribution to a biased and unequal system. Perhaps, but that's not *all* it is. In many cases, it is also separating someone from society who would need to be separated from society even in a perfect system. Due to our flawed prison sy...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

LOL Please don't pretend that laws are applied consistently or that sentencing is at all sensible today. I would never dream of it. But since I was speaking in the context of your hypothetical scenario where society doesn't even *have* laws for the obvious things, I'm at a loss regarding the releva...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:57 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

You don't really need laws for the obvious things. You just need communities that know how to deal with the problems that arise. And to do that consistently, you might want to write down how we as a community will deal with some of the more common and obvious problems. Things like what to do with s...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:50 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

@natraj But it's not like *all* laws are oppressive by nature. There are still the basics like catching murderers. That's not targeting vulnerable people (except in the sense that vulnerable-->desperate-->more likely to commit crimes, but that wouldn't be a matter of the law being unjust), and it's ...
by arbiteroftruth
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:26 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

@Pfhorrest re: tritarianism It's a bit more than just one being filling three roles though. Or at least, it's more than is captured by the metaphor using a human. The classic example I've heard in this regard is the account of Jesus' baptism, where you have the Son in human form getting baptized, th...
by arbiteroftruth
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

The Christian families were bewildered, 'why do they hate us, the trinity is very simple it's just a 3 sided paper, we aren't polytheists how could they say that about us' While I was born in what is historically a Catholic country (and my four grandparents were Catholics) that trinity thing that i...
by arbiteroftruth
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8644
Views: 846754

Re: Trump presidency

I believe the point is that saying "only Jews get to decide who counts as Jewish" is circular reasoning, at least if it's not refined more. You'd have to go with something like "Judaism is defined by the prevailing consensus among all people who call themselves Jewish", in which ...
by arbiteroftruth
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:58 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15144
Views: 2627831

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

What I would like to know is whether the shredder was remotely controlled, or whether it had some means of sensing that the picture was being sold. If it is the latter, then I would like to know how such a feat was accomplished. And if the former, then this sounds like felony destruction of property.
by arbiteroftruth
Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:15 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: The Good Plaice
Replies: 64
Views: 18794

Re: The Good Plaice

Season 2 started with 800+ reboots in, I think, 22 minutes. They established the premise, got some great jokes out of it, and moved on to the next plot twist. Here, we spent 45 minutes getting the group back together, which we knew had to happen going in. You're thinking of the second aired epi...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:54 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 84113

Re: Libertarianism

i think a lot of this is making matters needlessly complex the effect of an ubi, if funded by an income tax at least, is simply to move all incomes closer to each other. literally, just take a graph of incomes and vertically squish it centered on the mean. that's 100% of what an income tax funded u...
by arbiteroftruth
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 84113

Re: Libertarianism

The Long Answer Your Secondly point. You.. are aware people enter in to agreements all the time where both parties benefit from the arrangement, right? Like, that's the point of employment, self or otherwise - or at least the ideal of it. You provide work for someone who cannot do the work, the per...

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