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by HugoSchmidt
Thu May 10, 2012 8:36 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

You missed the point. Not the first time in this discussion, as I can see. The point was to find a contr-argument to your statement and that is your contr-argument. Are you saing that If you exclude "schizophrenic and the chronic drug user", then your point is valid? Or that these people ...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 4:52 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

jokingly, I attributed these to Rand's usage of meth during writing, which is a fact


Last post for me for the day, because this is wearing me out. Rand was prescribed benzedrine, which is an amphetamine, not a methamphetamine, and certainly not "meth", which is a name for Crystal meth.
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 3:18 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

As hippo said about could you make this any easier, I'll ask, have you ever heard of schizophrenia and schizophrenic high? Many people who have schizophrenia (and I'm assuming you'll agree schizophrenics have rejected reality and rationality) are in fact very happy. Okay, you can accept the schizop...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 2:25 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

As I've said, I'm tired of this. I quote a top expert who has had dealings with thousands if not tens of thousands of criminal cases. This is dismissed. I cite a controlled experiment in the effects of turning your attention away from reality - the exact definition of unreason according to Rand - pu...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 1:46 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

The 'you-linked-to-a-pop-article-about-day-dreaming' thing was more pointing out the fact that you're correlating 'day-dreaming' with irrationality based on some loose, sloppy reasoning. And even if we accept that, your claim is that irrational people are incapable of being happy, not prone to unha...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 1:34 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Pop science magazine. Science. One of the two most prestigious journals worldwide. A journal every scientist drools about at the thought of publishing in. "A pop-science magazine". Here's a hint, kid: from now on, leave science to the professionals. Oops; pardon. Pop science article . I a...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 1:28 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

.eah, you quote an article in a pop-science magazine Pop science magazine. Science. One of the two most prestigious journals worldwide. A journal every scientist drools about at the thought of publishing in. "A pop-science magazine". Here's a hint, kid: from now on, leave science to the p...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 1:20 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Or let's say the basic of all Objectivist virtues, rationality. ...Christ, seriously? That's it? I just have to find someone who's irrational and happy? For fuck's sake, guy. Make this a little harder . Well that's me out. I make the case citing a study in Science that proves my point - and this is...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 1:14 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

It has to be something a reasonable number of people don't have. I mean, take your pick: rationality, justice, integrity... If you want an example of this, take a look at the "nononsense selfdefense" site run by Mark MacYoung. I'll quote extensively of his experience - and he's seen it fr...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 12:36 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

I've explained umpteen times that the virtues Objectivism preaches are requirements for human life, and I've repeatedly asked for challenges how a life lived in contradiction to these can be anything but self destructive and miserable. Instead I get this sort of a response. So all I have to find is...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 12:27 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

And that's what her morality is all about: It's about making choices that feel nice to her. Okay. Fine. I won't criticize that. But presenting your moral system as if it has some basis in reason--some basis in science, in empiricism?--That's dishonest as hell And here's another example of what driv...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 11:38 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

@HugoSchmidt in general: You know, in my country we have a saying: "God, please protect me from my friends, I can handle my enemies myself!". Relax, take a deep breath or whatever else you want. The moment you are starting to accuse people of lying you assume they are actively malicious a...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 11:07 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

.... You keeps saying that he is lying, yet provide no proof of this. As an empiricist, one would think that having proof before making claims would be almost required. Quite simple: this drone says that Ayn Rand's explanation of selfishness is just "get what you want". Anyone who spends ...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 10:59 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

So, according to Rand, not all evil stems from self-sacrifice, but also the belief that others can be sacrificed for your sake. Maybe it's because it's 1AM where you are and you didn't phrase this well, but if that's an accurate description, then we're back to saying that her work says nothing of s...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 10:53 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Sixty. Fucking. Pages.


Well, I'm sorry that you are only used to books with a few big (not long, but big as in printed big) words and plenty of bright pictures, but when you are dealing with something substantive, you need to bring a little effort to the table.
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 9:08 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

I've never read Atlas Shrugged, but I'm told there is a passage where the train full of new copper collides with a passenger train. I'm also told there is long diatribes (probably not 60 pages long, but there) about how horrible it is that the new magic copper is destroyed. The dead passengers, the...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

I appreciate your response and hope we can maintain that tone, because I think I am moving from questioning to disagreeing. First I'd like to say, I hope I didn't imply that I think that egoism necessarily=materialism. I get that you can calculate your self interest to think long term and consider ...
by HugoSchmidt
Tue May 08, 2012 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

.... You keeps saying that he is lying, yet provide no proof of this. As an empiricist, one would think that having proof before making claims would be almost required. Quite simple: this drone says that Ayn Rand's explanation of selfishness is just "get what you want". Anyone who spends ...
by HugoSchmidt
Tue May 08, 2012 10:34 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

.... HugoSchmidt wants to take the highly specific meanings from Ayn Rand's words that sound bad, and broaden them to mean things which are somewhat more vague but don't sound bad.. [/quote] Please stop lying. What I say follows exactly from the core of her philosophy as outlined in both The Founta...
by HugoSchmidt
Mon May 07, 2012 7:17 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

armandoalvarez , You're clearly an honest and rational person, so I will try to answer this to the best of my abilities. Hugo, I posted about this a while ago but it got buried in the comments. I wanted to know about this anti-altruistic concept of Objectivist ethics, because either I'm not underst...
by HugoSchmidt
Mon May 07, 2012 6:55 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

The threat of counterforce is still a threat. Now granted, an Ayn dictatorship would allow more freedoms, but it would still demand things of people. The not initiating force against anther is still a dictatorship if the majority of people wish to live in a system where they can initiate force agai...
by HugoSchmidt
Sun May 06, 2012 2:07 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

What did I say about lying? Like for example, she said she favored selfishness. When you look at what she actually meant in detail, she was just saying that you should try to get what you want -- which is vacuous, tautological, and utterly boring Case in point. This statement is, I shall put it blun...
by HugoSchmidt
Fri May 04, 2012 10:53 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

I pop off for a little bit to find that people are reverting to the old rule about arguing against Objecitivism: "It is perfectly possible to have a consistent, coherent case against Ayn Rand as long as you never, ever honestly say what her views were or what Objectivism advocates. I tend to re...
by HugoSchmidt
Thu May 03, 2012 12:36 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Oh Christ, someone get me a red bull. J Thomas is being boring again. And Bush executed a mentally retarded woman and laughed about it publicly Thank you, kaylakaze , for admitting that "your" boys and "their" boys are exactly the same. That's my beef to begin with. It's what Sou...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 11:48 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Perhaps you should ask HugoSchmidt whether he objects to the death penalty. When many of his claims are GOP talking points it's natural to suppose he would not Or you could read my post where I specifically say that I abhor the death penalty and give some of my reasons for that. Do you know of any ...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 11:32 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

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Just so you know, there is a very large swathe of the American right I have utter disgust for. I know the sort of thing that the WND crowd peddle. But my point in raising this stuff is that I have little patience with people like kaylakaze who say it's only ever the other side that does the bad stuff.
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 11:29 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Wow. I like that quote. All the more reason for voting reform, so you can hopefully choose between 3-5 people who should be in prison, I guess. For the record, Carter remains one of my favorite Presidents because he was such a sweetheart. You mean the Carter who greenlighted the Iran-Iraq war causi...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:32 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

What on earth are you talking about?


I point out that Clinton supervised the state-sanctioned killing of a mentally incompetent black prisoner who meets all the requirements for clemency and you power right past it. Don't even notice.
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:28 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

You know, Hitchens also wrote a book breaking down Henry Kissinger... And Ayn Rand had Kissinger's number and condemned him when it would have made an actual difference. I pointed this out at the start and no one wanted to take me up on't. Nice to see that you don't give a damn about killing off me...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:15 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around Clinton being a 'rapist lynch murdering war criminal', or the idea that Democrats and "liberals" never cease to shill for him. You can find the evidence for all of this in No one left to lie to . Just to take the most salient example of his "S...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:08 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Oh, whoop-de-do. Clinton is a rapist lynch murdering war-criminal, and the Democrats and the "liberals" never cease to shill for the guy. They even had the nerve to say he was "the first black president", and as though that wasn't enough, he was "blacker than Barack" b...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Kaylakaze wrote: Cain's woman problems. Unless you're of the conspiracy theory that that was a) fake b) engineered by democrats and c) somehow racists, it doesn't apply. Oh, whoop-de-do. Clinton is a rapist lynch murdering war-criminal, and the Democrats and the "liberals" never cease to ...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 6:26 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Actually, it was proven after the fact via independent recount that Gore did in fact win Yes! And the WTC was brought down in a controlled demolition! And Obama and Bush are secretly brothers, and also space lizards from Alpha Draconis, and the whole Bush presidency was just to annoy everyone so mu...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 5:13 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Tell me, where exactly are these mass graves where Canada, France, and Scandinavia are tossing the bodied of those who are not "cost effective"? Shouldn't have gone there. In the UK where I live this happens. I've just met someone whose father has cancer and is stuck on a waiting list bec...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 5:09 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

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Now, HugoSchmidt might think this is a black mark on socialism, but if so, that's probably because they're bad at critical thinking. Oh Christ, we've been talking for a long time and the Hippo s till doesn't get it. First of all, I can't be anywhere near as bad as critical thinking as those who ass...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 12:39 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

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ou said it meant things it didn't mean. And you have been repeatedly saying things that make no logical sense. (see how easy this is?). Simply droning on and on and on and on that the plain words of the Nazis don't mean what they mean is boring . So please, be quiet. You're boring. Very boring. I d...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 9:54 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

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To J Thomas , One, I quite specifically pointed you to the bolded bits and pointed out that these would be described as socialist initiatives, two, they most certainly did do these things so please quit , three, quit being tiresome and boring. I've argued this out repeatedly above so go back and rea...
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 8:18 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1050: "Forgot Algebra"
Replies: 360
Views: 87981

Re: 1050: "Forgot Algebra"

Have to agree about this. It's my lifelong regret that I don't know more maths than I do, and I keep trying - poorly - to catch up.
by HugoSchmidt
Wed May 02, 2012 8:12 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

Okay, then, what "many" policies did they enact that "are called" Socialist? Oh, for chrissakes... How many times do I need to go over this? 25 point plan of the Nazi party: 1 We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determinati...
by HugoSchmidt
Tue May 01, 2012 5:05 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1049: "Bookshelf"
Replies: 867
Views: 135155

Re: 1049: "Bookshelf"

One of Nazi Germany's policies was apparently called 'Volkisch equality', wherein the plan was to set up a welfare state for 'suitable Aryans'. So consider my point retracted--'socialist' in the name is actually a reference to a very specific type of racially-driven socialism. Correct. Hence the id...

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