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by tresoldi
Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:29 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

(note to self: mktablepage [Unicode | Image | Meaning] $ corpus , [url=???]images[/url]) Btw, how are things going in your part of the world? (note to self: Aluisio's idea would be good) This are better, but there are some strange feelings around people here in Brazil (but please, let's stop here a...
by tresoldi
Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:37 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Survey on Beanish

You all seem to like an XKCD-related survey, so here it goes: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1KHgGBtpi4ZEUq0903sAbz4CYhGSL9RCtr2OQvpQustc/viewform?usp=send_form I set this up because I always wondered what ideas people actually had on my Beanish translations and hypothesis. Believing in the opinion...
by tresoldi
Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:04 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: NOT SURE IF BLINDPOSTING OR JUST SILENTTIMELY

No problem @taixzo , I was hoping maybe you could send a summoning spell to @tresoldi . Nice retro-future-past-self-ninja'ing there. The spell seems to have worked. :twisted: I am sorry for not being here, guys, and I am really, really, really sorry for calling of the speech on Beanish back in Febr...
by tresoldi
Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:04 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Public excuse

Hello everybody, I am deeply sorry to inform you that I won't be able to give my speech on Beanish today. I had some serious problems to solve at work in the last few weeks, and was expecting to properly prepare my speech yesterday. Alas, a new problem kept me at work until well past 2AM (it's 10AM ...
by tresoldi
Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:12 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: RUN: OTT meeting in Bochum

[*]tresoldi: You want to speak about the Beanish language. Is there a way to connect the title of your speech to the overall theme of sustainable online communities?[/*] I was thinking about the engagement of a community to decipher a "mistery", or at least trying to. There would be some ...
by tresoldi
Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:21 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Well, in that case I could try to make it more "pronounceable". The model I proposed was trying to make Beanish sound as close to English as possible in terms of consonants and their frequency (the vowel distribution is much more like Spanish), but it is not the easier one to pronounce. A...
by tresoldi
Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:24 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: The ketchup sea.

If I recall correctly, tresoldi has a potential phonetic system that can be applied to Beanish symbols, making them pronounceable. It was a suggestion on how to pronounce it, thinking about a possible spoken debate on Beanish... which might just happen! But, alas, is a creative work: there is not a...
by tresoldi
Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:19 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 5

Well, I was born in Italy, but I suppose I am now more a Brazilian than an Italian. And I was going for place-of-residence anyway. Settled. :) By the way, I have seen in your OTT map that there are other Brazilians, and even some Argentinians I if recall correctly. Still, if we are close we can mee...
by tresoldi
Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:34 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

New post on Beanish: what if Rosetta's Unglish errors can teach us something about our favorite language? http://beanishlang.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/rosettas-errors/ By the way, did someone collect all the hypothesis on what is written in Rosetta's blurred Unglish? I used the transcriptions found i...
by tresoldi
Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: It's become fluid once again.

The cheaper Porto Alegre-Frankfurt flight I found is more than U$ 2000 :( GRU-DUS is $949 ;) Sometimes I forget I'm not the only Brazillian OTTer. Well, I was born in Italy, but I suppose I am now more a Brazilian than an Italian. Still, if we are close we can meet in Santa Catarina (should be half...
by tresoldi
Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:02 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: KEEP CALM AND KETCHUP ON

D ecree. Find me a cheaper flight to Germany than $1200. A web search for “flight sfo fra February 2015” brought me to a page where Air France is offering round-trip flights between Frankfurt and San Francisco below EUR 500 (~ USD 622). The cheaper Porto Alegre-Frankfurt flight I found is more than...
by tresoldi
Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:31 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

As usual, after some days of complete silence (but not months, I seem to be improving) wonderful, Tresoldi! keep up the good work. You should see if you can attend the conference! I'd love it, but I won't be able... at least AFK. But I'll do whatever I can to attend it via Skype, IRC or whatever. Is...
by tresoldi
Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:14 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

We should all go to ᘊᒣᑦᖽᖆ

After blitzing months of posts... Time to get back to work :)

http://beanishlang.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/we-should-all-go-to/
by tresoldi
Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:42 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: Beanish BlindPost

azule wrote:There is one newly updated word: ᘊᖊᣗᓄ ᒣᓄᐢᔭ. I believe this to be the correct word (which is hiding behind a bookshelf on m2901).


As usual, you seem to be right.

Yeah, I have been away, lot of things to do, yada yada yada... :wink:
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:59 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

But I remember one teacher in Brazil unconfortable with "copula" just because of its secondary sexual meaning (but I guess "to copulate" sounds a little less "clinical" in Portuguese). That's new for me. AFAIAKnew the sexual meaning was the primary one (which you won't...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:51 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

Potentially stupid question: There is currently a sequel to Time being written, which currently has 864 frames. It has quite a lot of Beanish in it, including English writing laid over Beanish writing . Is this all previously used Beanish, or is it possible that the author of this series knows Rand...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:09 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Sorry @macraw83 , other people have pointed that I am not really clear and I am using way too much linguistic jargon, but it is not easy to write without footnotes! I know it can end up very obscure, but please ask me if there is anything really incomprehensible ... I really appreciate all the work...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:24 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish Post #2

I see that we're in the realm of figuring out what the Beanish should/does mean. Beanish in context is the answer. 8-) It's broken down into chunks. While there may be overarching topics, I didn't group those, just when they were in sequence. I also adding in some Rosetta frames, but not many. I kn...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:29 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Languages and gender German has some peculiarities concerning gender. I am not going into details but will just relay a true story. In the 19th century there was a rather famous paternity case in which the ruling contained the remarkable sentence: "... that she has impregnated him." (&quo...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:15 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: THESE AREN'T THE OTTSCARS YOU'RE KETCHUPPING FOR

I think I've given up on understanding most of what you've written about Beanish, tresoldi . Though I still read it to try to get the general idea of where things stand. Bummer that it seems to have hit a roadblock for now, at least until we get more examples in future Othercomics. Sorry @macraw83,...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

I guess that's why most language programs try to introduce you to culture as well. If you understand the cultural Logic and assumptions, it makes figuring out things like gender easier. One of these days, I'm going to learn a new language. Not today, probably not tomorrow, but one of these days... ...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:41 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Some lingual beatdowns That seems almost as illogical as most of English. At least English has the excuse that it is screwed up because it developed from 3 or 4 different languages and stole whatever it didn't have from everyone else. I didn't want to make it a "beatdown", I just wanted t...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:10 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

As for language discussions: I understand why you would have more than thre gender pronouns. I understand why you would gender names. But I am still utterly lost as to why anyone would gender objects which have none themselves, so why do so many languages do it? Usually either because there were ma...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:54 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

I said I would not be linear, and here it goes: let’s jump to the interesting speech in frame 2728. This frame is interesting, because it’s one of the Beanish “data points” closer to being a “Rosetta stone”. After some initial and difficult communication, when Cueball apparently learns the Beanish w...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:54 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

(sorry azule, I still have to answer your posts!) I said I would not be linear, and here it goes: let’s jump to the interesting speech in frame 2728. This frame is interesting, because it’s one of the Beanish “data points” closer to being a “Rosetta stone”. After some initial and difficult communica...
by tresoldi
Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:21 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

BlitzGirl wrote:Good question. What's the Beanish name for Professor Pricklymolp?


That is easy: ᘊᓭᘖᑦᓄ ᕋᑫᘖᒣᐣᖚᓭᐧᖚ
by tresoldi
Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:39 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

(from my blog) In frame 2668 (btw, I am using Geekwagons numbering system), one of the Beanies has examined Megan’s leg and asks or orders something to a second Beanie, which promptly leaves: ᓭᘈ ᘊᒣᓭᐧᖊᔕ ᖆᘊᓭᒣᖊᐣᖗᐨ (“tesa paʧataðama dapateʧaðeʃa”). It seems everyone agrees on the meaning of this sentenc...
by tresoldi
Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:39 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

New post at http://beanishlang.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/back-to-the-corpus-iii/ but to my paste the final thoughts: The conclusion is that I need to study in much finer detail the dubious translations, particularly for frames 2671 and 2728. Please keep posting your suggestions (if you study the corp...
by tresoldi
Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:24 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

http://forums.xkcd.com/download/file.php?id=37780 Some replies to tresoldi : In frame 2664 we have the second Beanish sentence, ᔪᖆᓄᐧ ᔪ, ᒣᖉ ᖊᐣᖽ ᖽᘛᕋᑦᐤ You might want to note for the OTT that you're using the Geekwagon numbering system for the frames. The acolyte here did not know Geekwagon had a diff...
by tresoldi
Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:13 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

Below is a computer style "table" of all of the characters. The first number next to each is the guess rating. 0 means no guess (which should be apparent). 1 is reserved for a wild guess. I've excluded all of those from this post. 2 is for a pretty good guess, usually involving some relat...
by tresoldi
Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:02 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

This is great, I almost cannot catch up with everything being written on Beanish! \o/ From my blog: http://beanishlang.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/on-the-abugida-hypothesis/ (I'll later give my two cents on how to continue this discussion) A note on the abugida hypothesis, as it has been causing some c...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:01 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

In frame 2664 we have the second Beanish sentence, ᔪᖆᓄᐧ ᔪ, ᒣᖉ ᖊᐣᖽ ᖽᘛᕋᑦᐤ The context is that, after the first sentence not understood by Megan and Cueball, the second Beanie points to Megan’s leg, previously injured during a keyboard attack, probably asking what happened or if they can help (and, in ...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:39 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

by tresoldi
Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:38 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

(just posted at http://beanishlang.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/back-to-the-corpus-i/ -- as it is not pure linguistic mumbling, but "applied Beanish", I hope it is not a problem to x-post it here) It is time to go back to our corpus. I will use the abugida hypothesis I developed, as it makes ...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:31 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

tresoldi, hi. I'm sorry, I don't quite get all of what you said. So let me apologize for being a difficult linguistic partner. I have investigated languages for many years and even have learned a bit of some, such as Spanish and Japanese. While investigating I come across some linguistic terms. The...
by tresoldi
Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:23 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

An abjad is a script where some or all of the vowels aren't usually marked, like Hebrew or Arabic. An abugida is a script where each symbol stands for a consonant, and vowels are obligatorily marked, and as diacritics, like Ge'ez or Thai. I believe there is some debate concerning the difference bet...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:16 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Beanish
Replies: 32
Views: 21639

Re: Beanish

Hi, tresoldi. I hope you still read your thread. I don't know how to converse new ideas with you on your blog. I mean, I'd like to post my own article. So, this place seems appropriate. What follows is basically from the OTT. It's review. I'll add new thoughts in another post. Hi, azule! Great to s...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:53 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Here part 1 of the analysis I started yesterday, about the Beanish script as an alphabet. If you can follow the confused arguments I make (I wanted to fix it, but I'd probably never finish it, so I am making it public the way it is), you can probably understand why I think that the alphabet hypothe...
by tresoldi
Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:44 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

Here part 1 of the analysis I started yesterday, about the Beanish script as an alphabet. If you can follow the confused arguments I make (I wanted to fix it, but I'd probably never finish it, so I am making it public the way it is), you can probably understand why I think that the alphabet hypothes...
by tresoldi
Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:45 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1190: "Time"
Replies: 107158
Views: 48945301

Re: 1190: "Time"

So, I posted part 2 of a series of analysis that I started writing last week. Part 1 is very boring and quite difficult, and in short concludes that it is hard do guess the sounds of Beanish if you treat it like an alphabet (but I still propose a monster full of vowels and glides). Part 2 is a bit m...

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