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by Horwood Beer-Master
Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 Olympics winner
Replies: 35
Views: 2928

Re: 2016 Olympics winner

Good for Rio. I love Chicago, but I think having the Olympics there would have been a debacle (an Olympic stadium in Washington Park?). Also, I've now heard several times that no city has ever made money hosting the Olympics. I don't know if it's true, but it's eminently plausible. The Sydney Olymp...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:09 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

Perhaps your sentiments supporting your particular slant are a little skewed, given the fora you link to in your sig?.. Why would the fact that I spend much of my time posting on a primarily atheistic website lead you to think my sentiments are 'skewed', given that I’ve already made it unambiguousl...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:04 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

...People need to be able to talk and communicate about things they care about without getting too personal about their discussions... But there's a paradox in what you just said there. If it's something they really care about, then they are bound to feel 'personal' about it, So how can you discuss...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:54 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

Actually, no, I think you're not getting it. 'Core tenants' and notions of faith are outside the purview of proof ... No I get that very well, that's exactly my problem with them. ...One doesn't need someone to categorically prove or disprove the notion of a supreme being to reflect on the personal...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:15 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

Then I just started paying attention to the wrong part of the thread. I still believe that there are multiple tenants of faith that hold true whether or not God appeared in a burning bush, parted the red sea, turned water to wine, etc., and I think it's important to frame your disagreements with re...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:17 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

...I doubt that the primary effort of religious faith is to improve logic - just about anyone can easily start making up premises to build an unfalsifiable set of beliefs... True. If you start to accept 'faith' as a justification for belief equal to, or even superior to, evidence, then you could ju...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:08 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

...Because religious belief is completely unique in that it is impossible to logically justify... That's kinda the problem with it. ... it is impossible that this many people would buy into something (theism) without having a damn good reason for it... 'Reason' is the wrong word there. 'Explanation...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:38 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

...I don't think that it's an appropriate justification to say "because hundreds of years ago, I would have been killed for expressing these views, now that I can express them I should go and be as offensive as I can be torward this specific group in order to make it easier for myself to expre...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:19 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day

...the guy's rudeness was getting on my nerves... I've still at no point whatsoever had it pointed out to me exactly where I have been rude. This is precisely what you get when you let people decide for themselves what they are going to consider 'rude' based primarily on what subjects they are will...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:03 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...Regardless, you're being rude to Moo... No, I'm not. She is claiming I'm being rude, that's her interpretation. I see nothing in anything I've said to back-up that interpretation. …You have no more basis for your beliefs than she does... In your opinion I have no more basis for my beliefs than s...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:45 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...My "sorry for you" statement had nothing to do with me being a Christian talking to a non-Christian... And yet it seems to be the kind of thing that (in the particular context you used it) gets said by Christians more often then not. ...just as a human being who doesn't go out of their...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:16 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

Moo wrote:It's not condescension that makes me say you won't understand, but a statement of fact...

'Statement of fact' or not, it still doesn't constitute an argument.
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:14 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

Horwood Beer-Master, I feel sorry for you... Cliché much? You do realise that when the religious pull out the 'I feel sorry for you' line (or worse the 'I'm praying for you' line), it comes across just as insulting and patronising as it must be for American gays when they're are told by fundies &qu...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:09 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...I don't entirely buy that, there's argumentative people from all walks of life. I personally find a lot of Dawkins' later material to be a little obnoxious and aggressive in his arguments compared to his older books. 'Argumentative' is not really the same thing as what I'm talking about, in fact...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:43 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...Interfaith dialogue is personal, sure, but it doesn't have to be so bloody tense. Inter faith dialogue surely isn't the right term here? As for being 'tense', it's being asked watch what we say and tip-toe around religious sensitivities which is causing the tension for alot of us. It's a bit lik...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:24 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: I Shouldn't Have To Say This
Replies: 2609
Views: 391063

Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

I shouldn't have to say this: "no, you don't have some sort of obligation to blaspheme until these damned Christians buy into your "belief", even if it is the currently fashionable one" :? The point of my blaspheming has nothing to do with getting these "damned Christians&q...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:42 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...Because that's sort of missing the point. And you can't get the point, because you're not a believer... How very fucking convenient. Theists are so good at these 'argument stoppers' I notice. ...it'll always seem a strange and even non-sensical concept to you... On the contrary, I suspect I just...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:44 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

Sorry Daojia, I responded to your post straight after I'd finished responding to NecklaceOfShadow's, so I was still a bit annoyed and may have snapped a bit. Although that said, you weren't exactly responding to the main thrust of my previous post as I saw it, this stuff about 'human-rights abuse in...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:50 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

Daojia, did I say that religion was solely to blame for all the atrocities in the world? Does anyone say that? Even Richard Dawkins? It seems NecklaceOfShadow is not the only one around here who's fond of a straw-man. Why is it that people honestly seem to believe that pointing out that other factor...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:43 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...let me condense your point down for you. "No theist is prepared to listen to my point of view because it differs from their own. They're too ignorant and volatile for me to have a conversation with and the only way to change that is to piss them off continuously. Even if I were to be nice a...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:55 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: What's the first xkcd comic you read?
Replies: 41
Views: 3064

Re: What's the first xkcd comic you read?

I think I probably saw alot of these 'amusing stick-figure cartoons' posted in different places around the internet before I finally cottoned-on to the fact they all came from a single source.
by Horwood Beer-Master
Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:41 am UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

...Have you ever tried to talk with a Theist about their belief? I mean actually talk? Not trying to convince them otherwise? Accepting that they will accept some things to be unknowable? Suspend your disbelief for a conversation and try to find out what makes their faith go "tick"? It de...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:11 pm UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: Why is it hard to stop cracking knuckles?
Replies: 35
Views: 7799

Re: Why is it hard to stop cracking knuckles?

Does anyone else also think that cracking your knuckles can be somewhat infectious like yawning? I find myself wanting to crack my knuckles just after someone near me has done it and never really understood why. I'm finding that reading this thread is making me want to crack all my joints that can ...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:52 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: National Blasphemy Day
Replies: 201
Views: 17213

Re: National Blasphemy Day (NSF Various Religions)

I feel this quote by Dan Dennett seems relevant to the discussion here, There is no polite way to say, ‘With all due respect, sir, have you considered the possibility that you have blighted your whole life with a fantasy and are polluting the minds of defenceless children with dangerous nonsense?’ T...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Glenn Beck's show loses Corporate advertising revenues
Replies: 19
Views: 3240

Re: Glenn Beck's show loses Corporate advertising revenues

I am curious why you'd export what is mostly a political commentary, outside the area of those politics. Especially this considering that Britain is a more left-wing place than America. The market for Glenn Beck should be even smaller, right? I'm not sure Rupert Murdoch cares what the market is to ...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:21 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: How to make hemp legal?
Replies: 15
Views: 1727

Re: How to make hemp legal?

Would hemp shirts be as cuddly soft as my cotton ones? Probably not (though good things happen to long plant fibers- flax especially, and probably hemp, too- as they age), but good hemp twill or duck would probably outlast your Levis by an appreciable amount . Cotton is soft, but its short fibers w...
by Horwood Beer-Master
Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Scientists Discover Lost World, Over 40 New Species
Replies: 33
Views: 3494

Re: Scientists Discover Lost World, Over 40 New Species

SummerGlauFan wrote:What an amazing planet we have, eh?

Or as future generations will say "What an amazing planet they had".
by Horwood Beer-Master
Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: UN wants new global currency to replace dollar
Replies: 54
Views: 5501

Re: UN wants new global currency to replace dollar

CivilDefense700 wrote:I'd get behind it if we could call it something like the Terran Credit. Give it a name that makes it sound futuristic.

Obviously we should go with the QUID.
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:00 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0641: "Free"
Replies: 168
Views: 42569

Re: "Free" Discussion

It had long ago occurred to me that 'full-fat milk' could in fact be described as "96% fat free!"
by Horwood Beer-Master
Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:52 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0610: "Sheeple"
Replies: 511
Views: 97673

Re: Sheeple

I know some folks who accuse me of being a sheep because I believe that Islamic extremists perpetrated the September 11th attacks. I just thought I'd make my first post here since my sig (taken from the ' secretary ' series) seems relevant. And on an unrelated note - Wow! That's the second fewest n...

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