VectorZero wrote:Ok, so, we've got Mav confirmed as Dignam by flavor and lack of counterclaim. No scum kill last night; flavor suggests Chandani was targeting Dignam but Dignam got in first... Not sure whether that's how the game plays. More likely to be doctored. Hmm.
Possibilities (from my POV) are FAOT is scum and withheld the kill to make it look like he's the doctor, or cjdrum's lied all along. That seems unlikely, given he alluded to it in his first post. I'm strongly leaning FAOT.
Any cop results, Mav?
Also, we're now probably 1 in 4. Unless Mav's got another NK, we should NL.
Weeks wrote:1) He initiated the whole argument that because we didn't vote for m_p and argued against him, we were scummy. He says he has evidence because GoP did this and he turned out scum. Yet weiyaoli did this too, and he turned out town! This is why I said, earlier, that he was exaggerating his point.
2) He fucking backed off when he weiyaoli was found town, but didn't hesitate to use the same flawed argument again to attack me.
3) He says I made the whole thing into a big argument, which is blatant lies (first three posters to disagree and argue with FOAT: not me).
Weeks wrote:4) He himself just said at the beginning of the day that he was shocked about Trooper White. Don't you get it? Once you mentioned that you were X Z instead of X Y, it became exceedingly easy for scum to false claim Trooper [color], vanilla town. It already was suspicious that wei did it. This is also why I reconsidered you not being Trooper [color]. (I have not watched the movie. I don't know how likely it is for another char to be slightly altered this way, but I still considered it, from mere ignorance.) FOAT, again, doesn't hesitate to use this against me.
Weeks wrote:5) Can you see a trend here? This is what, in part, motivated my earlier metaphor. Of course, me not being FOAT, I can consider the possibility of him not being scum. But this is my best bet. VZ comes close, too.
Anything else? No? All right.
Weeks wrote:Um, hello? Wei wasn't scum. He also had little pings according to you; you even voted for him. I'm not sure you're analyzing the data correctly.
Of course, to you, everyone must have noticed. Yes, I get that you won't change your mind.
The main difference between you and me is that, while you charge headlong into the street without looking to the sides because the lights are red, I don't.
Mavketl wrote:Oh come on, how frickin obvious is it that he's Trooper [colour], vanilla town...Weeks wrote:vote: cjdrum
Top of my list at the moment is Weeks. Looking over the posts Weeks re-iterated "Read the damn thread/posts before you post" so many times to m_p it seemed like Weeks was getting really annoyed, and partially trying to help m_p get out of his hole by shouting advice down to him. One possible reason for this source of irritation would be that Weeks is scum with m_p. Weeks also did lots and lots of attacking on m_p but didn't follow through with a vote, an attempt in my books to look like town by joining their side but not placing a vote down incase m_p could get out of the situation somehow.
Wooy` wrote: You know what would probably happen to people if they had voted? They'd be under suspicion for being on the late, easy votes and would be considered scummy for trying to seem like they were voting on m_p.
Wooy` wrote:People who didn't vote on m_p: BigNose, Wooy`, Ibarra, cjdrum, Lataro.
Wooy`, BigNose, and Lataro were all independents. I was a lyncher, Lataro was a survivor, and BigNose was arguably on the scum side of independent, requiring 3 townies to die before he won. But no, they weren't scum.
Cj and Ibarra were scum.
Weeks wrote:I'm really starting to wonder if FOAT and weiyaoli have something to gain from all this. I don't think you can be so stubborn without a reason.
PhoenixEnigma wrote:I am also very distrustful of the VZ/FOAT position of suspecting people who didn't vote yesterday. Advocating that the townie thing to do would have been to (needlessly and knowingly) place oneself in a place to be suspected, creating wine and, arguably, increasing the odds of town being lynched day 2 is...well, wtf inducing, really. If I could vote for two people, I'd vote for both of them. As I can't, and don't really believe in FoS'ing...gah...scerw it, I'm not going to vote right now, because it's going to force me to come back and make another post in order to vote, and I need the motivation.
more_people wrote:And last time I played as scum, I was a replacement for someone who was going to be lynched and didn't get a chance to post anything!
more_people wrote:Anyway, ForAllOfThis, if you think we're scum then vote for us and explain why, and we will try our best to explain our actions.
BUT don't vote for us if you hate how we refer to ourselves.
ForAllOfThis wrote:This particularly pinged me. Defending yourself before you need to? Really?
roband wrote:Yeah, claiming is allowed.
I won't go into why it's ill-advised to be claiming but.. the majority of you have seen the movie, right?
mister k wrote:yeah, thats just absurd
Gopher of Pern wrote:Thinking I might hire the movie out tonight, give it a watch. Otherwise I'll have no idea whats going on.
Also, moles everywhere? So, traitors?