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by Eugo
Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:49 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

So you didn't immediately think the sheik was touching paper inappropriately before realizing the absurdity and inferring the correct meaning? I know I didn't - I read the comment I quoted before the article. The comment was written by a Canadian (and later commented on by an American, further down...
by Eugo
Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:43 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

gmalivuk wrote:Since fondling a report just means feeling up some paper, that's not actually ambiguous...

Did I say "ambiguous"? The caption unambiguously gets the wrong meaning across. The article actually mentions a woman instead.
by Eugo
Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:35 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

BTW, not mine:

If you create reports, be careful what you do with them:

http://news.yahoo.com/egyptian-sheik-ge ... 43367.html

At this time the headline reads "Egyptian sheik gets jail after fondling report".
by Eugo
Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:44 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Translations needed: Talk to Me in X
Replies: 30
Views: 13157

Re: Translations needed: Talk to Me in X

"Loquere Latine cum me." Someone should jump in and explain how's the capitalization in latin nowadays... as the Romans didn't have lowercase, IIRC :љ . In serbian: "govori mi na srpskom" / "говори ми на српском" (speak to me in serbian) (I don't speak IPA, just roll y...
by Eugo
Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:04 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

How do the attendants get transported by the lightning? Edit, actually that would require a comma after bus wouldn't it. Which brings me to conclusion that english is not ambiguous per se. If you pay very expensive attention to detail, know every possible meaning of each word, know what can be misu...
by Eugo
Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:21 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

"I'm cold" in English would almost never refer to body temperature. You can't really feel your own body temperature, so it's not something you would likely want to say. Yes you can - you keep your palms warm in your pockets, then touch some other part of your body. Or you just feel the ci...
by Eugo
Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:08 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

You are saying that in Serbian, the passive is an adjective derived from the verb? Then the problem is one of terminology. We call the "passive" the form "to be" + past participle (which could be parsed as a predicate adjective). The past participle by itself, however, is an adj...
by Eugo
Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:42 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

That said, English does *not* have a "rigid word order", at least not relative to languages that actually depend on word order. I did post an example, months ago, how in serbian et al you can shuffle the words a lot and achieve nuances of meaning, shift emphasis, and sometimes even hit a ...
by Eugo
Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:49 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Next Thursdayism (What's "next Thursday" mean on a Sunday?)
Replies: 56
Views: 24574

Re: Next Thursdayism (What's "next Thursday" mean on a Sunda

"The week" consists of the day that I say it and 5 days thereafter. E.g. On Tuesday, the week is that day through the following Monday. Not in all cultures. It's regional. In Europe, a week begins on a monday, and ends on a sunday, no exceptions. If you want the week to be a movable perio...
by Eugo
Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:59 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

Derek wrote:I would always use "should" here.

Wouldn't that change the meaning? I take the "shall we" as a "so let's", while "should we" sounds to me like "or maybe we shouldn't - maybe somewhere else or perhaps not at all".
by Eugo
Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:38 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

Yesterday, I said to my brother, "What movie were we going to see again?" Did I mean... "What movie had we decided to see for an additional time but didn't?" "Tell me again what movie had we decided to see for an additional time but didn't?" To be specific, under "...
by Eugo
Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:21 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Annoying words, and Words You Hate
Replies: 1991
Views: 487644

Re: Annoying words, and Words You Hate

It's just a word I hate. Except, as has been the case with a lot of the posts in here, it really wasn't "just" a word that you hate. It was a word that you gave some not-purely-asthetic justifications for hating, as though in an effort to convince others that it is indeed a silly word. On...
by Eugo
Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:00 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Annoying words, and Words You Hate
Replies: 1991
Views: 487644

Re: Annoying words, and Words You Hate

ShootTheChicken wrote:
Eugo wrote:I am failing to find a problem with this.

It's just a word I hate.

On the annoying list, most of the medications' active substances names. I've even seen things like sulindak in there. Read the small print.
by Eugo
Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:54 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Annoying words, and Words You Hate
Replies: 1991
Views: 487644

Re: Annoying words, and Words You Hate

I don't see the problem of having 1 word to describe an occupation rather than 3. That is exactly the problem, that it is not a profession. "Realtor", by their own definition, is not a real estate dealer. It's a real estate dealer who is a member of realtors' association. Imagine some oth...
by Eugo
Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:38 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Annoying words, and Words You Hate
Replies: 1991
Views: 487644

Re: Annoying words, and Words You Hate

Searched the thread, and surprised no one mentioned barista. It's pretentious made up word for a profession that takes little skill. Speaking of such words, realtor is even more ridiculous. It was defined circularly, as those real estate agents who are members of the club of realtors. And then it w...
by Eugo
Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:24 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

Yeah, this one only works because, without the second sentence, we wouldn't attribute any ambiguity to the first sentence. It's funny because, after the second sentence, we notice the ambiguity as it's resolved in the other direction. Aha, so the ambiguity is completely absent, because we get exact...
by Eugo
Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:01 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

e.g. "A sent B to C using D" here, C is identified as the indirect object by the use of "to" and D as the tool because of "using" (certain prepositions could be used instead) leaving B as the direct object. I found the example for this in my own tagline. "Confuse ...
by Eugo
Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:40 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

1. Not a case of ambiguity. Because English has a relatively rigid word order, which word is the verb is easy to determine. Sure, when you have a full sentence, which is not always so. "Cheese sticks" could be a short answer to "what happened in there?", and it could be both sti...
by Eugo
Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

Yes, I'm well aware that native speakers also sometimes say ambiguous things. My point was that there's nothing inherent about English that makes it especially ambiguous. Apart from same suffix being used to denote third person singular of a verb and plural of a noun (and a possessive, undistinguis...
by Eugo
Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:17 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

You can express them unambiguously in English, as well. You've just chosen not to in this example. Not I, I'm well aware of what may be ambiguous, so I pick my words carefully. Natives even said I didn't have an accent, but made pauses in unexpected places - that's when I pick the expression that w...
by Eugo
Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:10 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

Does it make you more intelligent, or does it irritate your eyes? The things that do one don't do the other, and I have a conception about what kinds of things do which. So there's really no problem there. But there is. It's an unknown pill you took. It may do either. Is "wedding band" th...
by Eugo
Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:28 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

OK, what does "makes you smart" mean? Does it make you more intelligent, or does it irritate your eyes? Is "wedding band" the orchestra that plays on weddings or the ring? Or, if "conductor" may be a wire, a ticket checker in transportation, or orchestra chief, dependin...
by Eugo
Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:41 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

I've collected quite a list of ambiguous phrases here , and while most of them are probably not such in the ear of a native speaker, given proper context, they may be rather ambiguous to a foreigner But the reason for the ambiguity isn't always lack of context. Sometimes a person is simply saying s...
by Eugo
Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:28 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Annoying words, and Words You Hate
Replies: 1991
Views: 487644

Re: Annoying words, and Words You Hate

PurplePenguin wrote:
Monika wrote:I have the feeling more people say /pɹəˌnaʊnsiˈeɪʃən/ than /pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən/


It's possible, though not going to stop my mother from mocking me every time I say it.

You mean, every time you pronunce it? 8)
by Eugo
Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:05 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: When a language dies, so what?
Replies: 67
Views: 16512

Re: When a language dies, so what?

It's said that the loss of these languages will bring a loss of cultural knowledge. Is it? It's still possible for people to communicate their cultural knowledge even if their language has died. There is absolutely no way that I can explain the dozen different usages of the word "e" (eh),...
by Eugo
Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:50 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Nonsensical English...
Replies: 131
Views: 36056

Re: Nonsensical English...

" I'm home. " So you, yourself, are the house? Likewise, "I'm back". Or "so cold war was about who makes a larger fridge?", or "he's a homemaker... he does masonry". Or, "you have a balance there", when applied to your account, actually means you're...
by Eugo
Fri May 25, 2012 3:17 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: "less" vs "fewer"
Replies: 11
Views: 5549

Re: "less" vs "fewer"

I do not think it's a fault in language to have an asymmetry in having different words to point out a change in quantity in one direction but not the other. Rather, I think it's a "fault" (i.e. superfluous) to have more than one word at all, like in the case of 'fewer' versus 'less', beca...
by Eugo
Fri May 25, 2012 11:57 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: The Letter H
Replies: 20
Views: 8128

Re: The Letter H

Amazingly, Serbian [et al] has a similar history with the aitch. The clergy on both sides (i.e. Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim... both three then :)) used it heavily, being directly exposed to their internal languages - Latin, Greek, Church Slavic, Arabic, while the common people generally omitted it...
by Eugo
Fri May 25, 2012 10:24 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Limited income
Replies: 3
Views: 1853

Re: Limited income

"Fixed income" is also not completely right. The pensions are corrected here and there, to adjust for inflation. OTOH, the raise is not as frequent as it used to be. Come to think of it, I know that retirements were raised more often than my fixed salary. As mr. Marić used to say, "It...
by Eugo
Wed May 02, 2012 6:34 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously
Replies: 125
Views: 32920

Re: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously

Also depends on what you consider a borrowed word, and at what percentage do you draw a line. Is everything latin and french considered borrowed or not, that is the question. No, that is not the question, because as I said it would be stupid to define "creole" so broadly in the first plac...
by Eugo
Wed May 02, 2012 2:40 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously
Replies: 125
Views: 32920

Re: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously

Well of course it does. But the way linguists define these terms, English is not a creole (or a pidgin). If you want to define "creole" as "any language that has ever borrowed words from any other language", then sure, English is a creole. But then so is every other language tha...
by Eugo
Wed May 02, 2012 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously
Replies: 125
Views: 32920

Re: Literally, Really, Very, Truly, Seriously

English is not a creole (or a pidgin). Depends how you define these terms - including the term "english language". If you define it to include all its variants currently being spoken around the world, and admit that many a novelty seeps from the outlying regions into the core, then it is....
by Eugo
Wed May 02, 2012 12:23 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Terminology Web Search
Replies: 15
Views: 13490

Re: Terminology Web Search

Very well, I shall begin by documenting everything I ever need to know the terminology of by linking to it here. Soon I can create a wobsite, and it will be Wikipedia with pictures. Pikipedia. ... If anyone has any more they wish to add, please do so! Maybe you could somehow include verbs, adverbs,...
by Eugo
Wed May 02, 2012 11:48 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: French Phonology: Test your knowledge! (help me understand?)
Replies: 9
Views: 4267

Re: French Phonology: Test your knowledge! (help me understa

I see that nobody is addressing the question from the thread subject - everybody is so attracted to phonology, that nobody noticed the second part, in the parentheses.

To the best of my knowledge, the answer is "yes, help you understand".
by Eugo
Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:53 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Sarcasm/Irony
Replies: 32
Views: 13078

Re: Sarcasm/Irony

Heres what I've always wondered: are simple falsehoods, or false predictions, ironic? After all, they involve a contrast between words and reality, and/or a reversal of expectations. For example, John says it's not going to rain. Later, it rains. Ironic? My gut says "no," but I can't real...
by Eugo
Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:45 pm UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Words you choose to mispronounce
Replies: 242
Views: 92760

Re: Words you choose to mispronounce

I'm impressed you're able to uphold this habit when speaking our haphazard language. :D We cheat, i.e. we gave up on any generalization or regularity, and practice only this one particular case. We even pronounce threshold as threshhold. I sit corrected: one of the daughters says she alternates bet...
by Eugo
Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:39 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Words you choose to mispronounce
Replies: 242
Views: 92760

Re: Words you choose to mispronounce

Group hug. It has become one word, grouphug, and we (whole family) are pronouncing it groo-fug. Because there's a bloody pee aitch in the middle of it.
by Eugo
Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:38 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: Idioms that don't make sense
Replies: 60
Views: 17948

Re: Idioms that don't make sense

In reference to having and eating cake: I've always understood that the idiom was originally "you can't eat your cake and have it too", which makes more sense. If you eat your cake, you can't subsequently possess your cake; if you want to have some cake later on (maybe to share?), don't e...
by Eugo
Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:03 am UTC
Forum: Language/Linguistics
Topic: The Letter H
Replies: 20
Views: 8128

Re: The Letter H

I have some other concerns about the poor aitch. It's so underpronounced (i.e. underrepresented in pronunciation) in so many languages. I think the Italians are at least onest with it - they don't write it when they don't pronounce it. Except... they do, in the ch combination (so the ce and ci would...
by Eugo
Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:07 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1020: "Orion Nebula"
Replies: 99
Views: 27056

Re: 1020: "Orion Nebula"

da Doctah wrote:I think it's a little irresponsible to go mucking about with Orion when they still haven't done anything about the name of the planet Uranus.

Why would they? It's a problem in English only.

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