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by setzer777
Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:19 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Morality and Logic
Replies: 117
Views: 13123

Re: Can morality be based on logic?

Humanism is mistaken insofar as it claims that moral values can be derived from logic. Said school of ethics may claim that they are deriving moral values from logic, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Like I said, I will believe it when I see it. Well, by your criteria *nothing* is der...
by setzer777
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:55 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0515: "No One Must Know"
Replies: 169
Views: 30805

Re: "No One Must Know " Discussion

Excellent post Aris Katsaris! You laid out the logical distinctions wonderfully. My question to you now, however, is this: do you feel that it is immoral to joke about murder at all? Maybe not as much as rape. But should people have the responsibility to take murder more seriously (as in less humor)...
by setzer777
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:19 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

The way I'm seeing it with FireZs, it goes like this: Nevermind what the "prize" feels or deserves to know about how they were won . As long as they are in a relationship, it's all hunky dory! After all, don't women want relationships? Isn't the marriage industry a multi-billion dollar af...
by setzer777
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:42 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

FireZs, I realize the argument has drifted quite a bit, but I'm not sure what exactly your objection to the comic is. You say: "Yes he's a jerk, but it's still her choice". But if the manipulation he engages in doesn't qualify as taking away her choice, then certainly someone reading this ...
by setzer777
Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:07 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0515: "No One Must Know"
Replies: 169
Views: 30805

Re: "No One Must Know " Discussion

Oh, orry. You right. It is about how society views it. I brought rape into this. I wonder why murder is more acceptable to society than rape. Well, rape is more common. If you're telling a joke about rape, it's a lot more likely that someone reading it will have been raped (or known someone who was...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:27 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

Men's looks do matter. If you are too thin, bulk up. If you are too fat, slim down. Lift weights, get toned. It will all help. If you want to be attractive to more than nerd girls, learn more about fashion and stop wearing unix t-shirts. I'm not sure thin is always bad for men. I've seen some who r...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:13 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

What? When have I said "acting disinterested in women you are actually interested in?" What I'm saying is that ladder bullshit for the most part doesn't work, and the reason it doesn't work is that it doesn't make you fundamentally more desirable. What it is is people aping the behaviors ...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:55 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

Unless you're only attracted to girls who are already attracted to you (and some guys are like that), the desirability level you command in the population will affect your success rate within the pool of girls to whom you are attracted. Wow, I just realized I might be somewhat like that. I've almos...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:49 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

I didn't say it played no part, just less of one. The classic argument is "How many attractive women do you see dating ugly men? Okay, now many attractive men do you see dating ugly women?" From my own experience, and likely yours, the population in set 1 is much larger than set 2. Even i...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:34 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

@FireZs: I agree that there is effectively an objective way to rate one's desirability. I disagree that it is impossible to move yourself up the scale through change. Men put a much larger emphasis on beauty than women do. It should be easy to see how some women can improve desirability -- by losin...
by setzer777
Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:26 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

That's not what I'm saying. Everyone is free to be confident, everyone is free to think or act however they wish. What I am saying is that they shouldn't expect that to make themselves any more fundamentally desirable. It doesn't matter how confident Brian Peppers is, he's not going to get action f...
by setzer777
Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:23 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

Another issue some commenters seem to have: There's nothing wrong with wanting to have sex with a woman. There's nothing wrong or disgusting with wanting to have sex with a woman you barely know. Now it's wrong if you make that desire the only thing that controls your relationship with them, and don...
by setzer777
Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:59 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0513: "Friends"
Replies: 914
Views: 223673

Re: "Friends" Discussion

Hm, read through the thread, noticed two main things in the discussion: 1. It seems like most people are acting on a strange binary of "act totally platonic" and "pursue a relationship". What about flirting? It's true that when you first meet someone you usually don't know if you...
by setzer777
Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:50 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0507: "Experimentation"
Replies: 111
Views: 24134

Re: "Experimentation" Discussion

1. the negative feeling towards a girl's past is based in morality 2. morals evolved because we survive better living in tribes 3. women couldn't be providers and caretakers if they were fucking all the time and neglecting their children/producing too many children, etc. but of course men still hav...
by setzer777
Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:40 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 0507: "Experimentation"
Replies: 111
Views: 24134

Re: "Experimentation" Discussion

Not funny. Homosexuality FTL. Also promiscuity in general FTL even more. Obvious trolling is obvious. What's wrong with either? OH DEAR GOD DON'T FEED THE TROLLS OH NOOOOOO TOO LAAAAAAAAAAAAATE ARRRRGHHHHHHHHH Because anyone who believes homosexuality is wrong is automatically a troll? WTF? Disagre...

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