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by Sabrar
Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:29 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

And I still want three lynches today I disagree with that mentality. The realistic aim for today was to get at least 2 scum, I feel this has been achieved. There is no point in executing any more just for the sake of execution itself. A LOT depends on whether EGW was truly SK or just scum (e.g. if ...
by Sabrar
Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:19 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Why did Sabrar feel the need to justify these reads? He distanced himself from these reads later when he claimed he wrote them before the game even started, How did you miss this ? I justified my serious reads which happily coincided with my joke-list in a large decree. It’s not quite a ping, just ...
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:40 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

but I'd say there's maybe a 25% chance he'll flip a neutral-aligned Guardian Angel targeting Sabrar, Based on my extensive knowledge of different mafia-roles, your inclination to do your research as well and my super-secret meta-read on you I'm pretty sure this was a lie. @ Zen : apologies, you wer...
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:27 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

wam wrote:I have had this argument with you before but if it's that subtle just tell us don't drag it out.
It's a completely different matter, I'm looking mainly for LaserGuy's input and not the other players'.
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:26 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

On a separate note let's look at LaserGuy on Madge D1: I guess my bottom four are {Sabrar, Vicarin, Madge, freezeblade}. Thinking about it more, I think that I would rather lynch the two lurkers D1 and leave the people who are actually generating content for later since they'll be easier to sort out...
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:10 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

LaserGuy wrote:I'm guessing you're misreading the last line to be a statement about alignment.
Nope.

Zenii wrote:Pretty sure I know what Sabrar's referring to.
Pretty sure you don't. :D
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:04 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

LaserGuy wrote:My reads are here.
I just reread those. There's one thing that's pinging me like crazy in your read wrt h_a, can you guess what it is?

Based on recent content I can definitely imagine a {bessie, LaserGuy} team, need to reread D1 after we have the flips.
by Sabrar
Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:58 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Vote: Lights Out This is a preliminary vote, obviously LO shouldn't be hammered. We need the flips of h_a and George. We need plytho's extremely detailed explanation on what he thought my breadcrumb was, why he thought town!h_a implies town!Zen, and so forth. We need Madge's claim about her second ...
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:28 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

bessie wrote:Are you meta reading me? :P
When have I not? :D

bessie wrote:Sabrar, don’t you think Madge would have breadcrumbed a town role?
No relying on that one since it became public.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:26 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Honestly I would prefer to lynch plytho so we can clear Zen for PoE but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who thinks that way.
Otherwise we should probably NL or lynch Madge to clear freezeblade but I'm against that one as well.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:10 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

As said previously I'm opposed to lynching freezeblade before we lynch Madge and I want to give Madge a chance to use her ability. The only reason to lynch a third person today is to get their flip a day earlier but with the caveat that if they flip Town that should also help us clear someone else/i...
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:49 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

LaserGuy wrote:I don't see any reason to doubt it. It's not like mafia is going to gain anything by claiming SK here.
He got Zen to unvote, believe his reads and even suggested keeping him alive. That's a huge bonus compared to any alternative.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:01 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

I agree with PoE but if that's the only reason then his lynch can wait until tomorrow.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:38 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Ok, I'll ask it in another format. Should somitomi flip town what information have you learned about anyone else?
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:32 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

What do you hope to gain from lynching somitomi?
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:09 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

@Madge: that might have been a tad bit overreacting. I don't think anyone besides Zen really believed that you would breadcrumb an anti-town role.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:58 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

- My only problem with a freezeblade-lynch is that town!freezeblade does not confirm town!Madge. - I want to give Madge an opportunity to use her second ability in case she's town. - If people want we can probably lynch Vicarin as he's not really allowed in the POE. - I think we will need to lynch e...
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:25 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Zenii wrote:What do you think about plytho agreeing with you?
I'm reserving judgement on plytho 'til the flips/claim.
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:57 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Believe me that bessie is always concerned about Madge. :)
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:38 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Zenii wrote:-Sabrar asked bessie about Madge as well. That is pretty weird.
Could you link to this and explain why it was weird?
by Sabrar
Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:31 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

We're not seriously debating leaving the SK alive in this setup, are we??? That's nonsense.

Unvote
Vote: Evil George Washington


Could be scum who pretends to be scum-hunting and wants us to mislynch townies. How has that not occurred to Zen?
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 31155
Views: 2112846

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Stellaris
Spoiler:
I bet remaining scum will kill LaserGuy tonight and they lynch Vicarin tomorrow for it. :D
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:11 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

L-1 here is not the same boogeyman as in other setups because hammering won't end the day so the main advantage gained by scum is lost but the suspicion on the hammerer remains.
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:56 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

I'm 99% sure that there is nothing George can say that will change my mind about lynching him. Of course I was about 98% sure about Zen as well at some point. I think with h_a and George we will be well ahead of the curve and can call it a day. I will have some really unpopular ideas on how we shoul...
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:37 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

@bessie: are you laser-focused on Vicarin and Madge? Do you have any opinion on the rest of stuff that's been happening?
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

I'm all for lynching George but we should at least show some amount of courtesy by waiting for his content.
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:06 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

bessie wrote:Another guy that totally missed my point.
And I'm not saying what you're attributing to me. We can pick this up after game (again) if you want, I think there is a fine line here that you think Vicarin and myself have crossed which I do not believe to be the case.
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:57 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Because I’m not buying her breadcrumb explanation. She claims she hasn’t breadcrumb recently, but Secret Santa 2017 is fairly recent. Madge loves to breadcrumb and doesn’t always even reveal them. I only discovered the MMM II breadcrumb recently when I was looking for something else but I can’t rem...
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:55 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Madge wrote:are people changing their mind on Zen? I think Zen's the best choice we have right now...
plytho claims to have info that might clear Zen.
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:26 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

On further reflection I'm willing to wait for plytho's info before coming to a decision about Zen.
We still need to lynch someone else today and preferably 2 players. George is an obvious choice.
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:30 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

On further reflection I still don't like Vicarin's 'defense' that the lyncher's obvious target should be the first officer. I think that is more likely a deflection rather than a true townie thought. Also I'm bothered about the (admitted) role-fishing, I think the benefits do not outweigh the harm i...
by Sabrar
Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:02 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

wam wrote:That's from day 2 after the result.
No, that's from your N1 thoughts that you allegedly prepared on Sunday.
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:25 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Unvote

If you think abilities are hard to deduce from role-name how were you planning to find a good protection target?
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:58 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Sabrar wrote:
Vicarin wrote:There, now you know why I was trying to figure out what the hell was going on after D1.
I don't see how this follows from your role.
Sabrar wrote:Also don't see why you were so interested in role-names.

Explain this and I'll unvote.
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

@Zen:
1. you should clear that up.
2. you should start answering questions before asking anew.
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:34 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Also don't see why you were so interested in role-names.
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:30 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

Vicarin wrote:There, now you know why I was trying to figure out what the hell was going on after D1.
I don't see how this follows from your role.
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:17 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

wam wrote:Town (no particular order)
PW
Vicarin
Laser
Bessie

Leaning town

heuristically_alone
Madge

Slightly Scummy (From least scummy to most scummy)
Plytho
Somitomi
Sabrar
Freezeblade

Scummy (From least scummy to most scummy)
Evil George Washington
Zenii

I'm curious. Why cop me?
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:52 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D1 - Assassination

Zenii wrote:George is actually quite bad at scum. He's really apathetic about it and does the minimal amount of content as possible.
So you'll vote George today?
by Sabrar
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:40 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - Endgame - Apocalypse
Replies: 1327
Views: 32464

Re: Stellaris Mafia (Lights Out) - D2 - Awakening

I thought you meant 'tomorrow, after Zen provided content'.

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