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by TranquilFury
Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:16 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Why be social?
Replies: 15
Views: 6156

Re: Why be social?

Are conversations something to be enjoyed in of themselves, or merely a means to an end? Both? I've never seen or heard a conversation that wasn't a means to an end, sometimes conversations are enjoyable too. - Can there be such a thing as a useless conversations? If so, what qualifies it so? Yes, ...
by TranquilFury
Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nuclear energy
Replies: 545
Views: 87597

Re: Nuclear energy

The biggest problem with nuclear energy is that we're stuck on a fission model optimized for building bombs.

Thorium breeder reactors are what we need.
by TranquilFury
Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:42 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 53293

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Why are you people arguing about first cause? Causality is an assumption, a useful one in everyday life, but not necessarily a fundamental truth. whether it's "true" or not doesn't impact it's utility except in extreme circumstances. This is part of why physics is so confusing to us, the m...
by TranquilFury
Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:15 am UTC
Forum: Hardware
Topic: First time builder looking for sanity check and advice
Replies: 17
Views: 5441

Re: First time builder looking for sanity check and advice

If you live near a microcenter you can get a 2500k for 180.

with the savings you can get a better CPU cooler.
by TranquilFury
Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:23 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1037: "Umwelt"
Replies: 478
Views: 301345

Re: 1037(?): Umwelt

Fucking around with user agents in Chrome on Windows 7, Firefox gives me the snake, and Chrome gives me this: http://files.miffthefox.info/snow-in-al.png XKCD. IT DOESN'T SNOW IN ALABAMA. (Although if you changed the hurricane one to be about tornados I'd forgive you.) I live in Kansas. http://i.im...
by TranquilFury
Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:19 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Can axioms/basic beliefs be justified?
Replies: 19
Views: 5417

Re: Can axioms/basic beliefs be justified?

mathematics(pure logical constructs based on axioms/assumtions) is a way of describing ideas, it doesn't matter if it's ulimately true or not, the question is whether it's useful. Shared definitions are definitely useful if someone else has to act on your ideas or information.
by TranquilFury
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:28 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 53293

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Is it possible to talk about whether a basic belief is "rational" in a way that doesn't rely on arbitrarily privileged beliefs? I must admit I've never heard of a convincing method to do that, mostly just appeals to things asserted to be "self-evident". Well, I'm a rationalist, ...
by TranquilFury
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:24 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 53293

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Being atheist doesn't make you rational, but rational people are usually atheist. The exception to the latter are those living in ignorance, who don't have access to evidence that conflicts their model of reality. Naturally, if Christians they be, those people have never been allowed to read the bib...
by TranquilFury
Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:08 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 53293

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

If an individual truly believes that something is imaginary then why discuss it? More importantly, why oppose it? I suppose it's because a group of individuals that do carry such a belief wield power that affects you in a negative way. However, since the only way to neutralize a belief is to sway a...
by TranquilFury
Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

The move from "capacity to value things" -> "source of value" is like a move from "capacity to have an opinion" -> "source of opinion" or "capacity to like" -> "source of likedness". Treating other people's humanity as a source of opinions...
by TranquilFury
Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:56 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

The move from "capacity to value things" -> "source of value" is like a move from "capacity to have an opinion" -> "source of opinion" or "capacity to like" -> "source of likedness". Treating other people's humanity as a source of opinions...
by TranquilFury
Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:32 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

----- I don't see the point of the distinction in good vs value either, things or actions are 'good' or 'valuable' for a person or entity if they help the entity achieve it's goal, but those goals/motivations are not necessarily shared by any other party, and are universally of a subjective nature....
by TranquilFury
Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

What does that have to do with Kant? I don't see the point of the distinction in good vs value either, things or actions are 'good' or 'valuable' for a person or entity if they help the entity achieve it's goal, but those goals/motivations are not necessarily shared by any other party, and are unive...
by TranquilFury
Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:16 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

I came to a similar conclusion through a different methodology, a few years ago I spent a while trying to understand my own motivations and where they came from, in the process I learned that EVERY motivation or goal is ultimately irrational/emotional/instinctual, and most of them weren't even mine...
by TranquilFury
Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:59 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

I once tried to establish a normative ethical system that, through its solid foundation, would result in everyone agreeing upon and being able to ascertain what was good and right. [...] (I ended up delving into meta-ethics to try and analyze the nature of "good", "right", and &...
by TranquilFury
Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:46 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

The ends always justify the means, it is always correct to take the course of action that satisfies your ultimate goals with the least amount of risk. I thought this was an discussion of ethics and morality, not of optimizing the achievement of one's goals. :lol: If the only thing of concern is ach...
by TranquilFury
Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Do the ends justify the means?
Replies: 74
Views: 13531

Re: Do the ends justify the means?

The ends always justify the means, it is always correct to take the course of action that satisfies your ultimate goals with the least amount of risk. We have an intuition about the predicted utility of varying options, with the switch, it feels like there are a few possible outcomes if you flip the...
by TranquilFury
Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:21 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What's Best for the World
Replies: 51
Views: 9647

Re: What's Best for A Galaxy Far Far Away

HULK not saying 'tis in I's interests for they 2 dump toxic waste somewhere the locals be powerless 2 stop they, HULK saying they'll do it if it hath the best expected value. As for human nature, instincts be still useful in many circumstances, If the situation requires immediate action and you don...
by TranquilFury
Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What's Best for the World
Replies: 51
Views: 9647

Re: What's Best for A Galaxy Far Far Away

If she actually puts the well being of a stranger above her own, if that IS her interest, there's nothing you will spray to her that would keep her from giving all her possessions to charity and going off to volunteer in some destitute country. Well maybe A Galaxy Far Far Away would be a better pla...
by TranquilFury
Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:00 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What's Best for the World
Replies: 51
Views: 9647

Re: What's Best for the World

I think the combination of being both very logical and very well-meaning just has her rather stuck right now. I'll clarify a bit, you can't create a goal with logic, that has to be an emotional or instinctual decision, and most people have their non-survival/sex motivations implanted by their cultu...
by TranquilFury
Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:54 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What's Best for the World
Replies: 51
Views: 9647

Re: What's Best for the World

She's asking the wrong question, you shouldn't ask what's best for the world, the world doesn't have it's own goals and motivations. "What's best for the world" doesn't mean helping the "world" (the spheroid of magma and rock) or the "world" (some kind of hive mind). I...
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What's Best for the World
Replies: 51
Views: 9647

Re: What's Best for the World

She's asking the wrong question, you shouldn't ask what's best for the world, the world doesn't have it's own goals and motivations. Ask your friend what's in her own best interests, tell her to do what she loves doing, then figure out how to make a living at it. Or if she has some lofty goal, work ...
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

You're not smelling of roses at the moment either. Perhaps a break?

- Az
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:18 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

If someone WANTED to kill you, there's not much you can do about it through a legal construct Yes yes, this is all true, but the point is that the illegality of murder induces high additional costs on them if they do it, which practically deters them most of the time. Everyone has some power, the f...
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

That right there is wishful thinking, Yes, you can delegate your power to an organization that shares SOME of your goals, for safety, and while that organization might have the right to secure some liberties for it's constituents, you are left with the privileges that come with being a member of th...
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

It's willfully ignorant to assume every other person has the same goals that you do, this is the biggest problem with the golden rule. There is no reason to assume this. Self-determination is a meta-goal useful for all other goals, and compatible with the self-determination of others, unless your g...
by TranquilFury
Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:36 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

stealing from the mafia, skydiving sans parachute, or jumping in front of a truck on the highway some night. I don't mean disrespect, but this nonsense right here is one of the reasons I regret they give the right to vote to just anybody. The right not to be prevented from suicide should be the mos...
by TranquilFury
Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

Might makes right, always has, always will. The only rights you have are the ones you have the will to assert and the power to enforce, this is true for any person or organization, governments included. Unless you're completely paralyzed or restrained, you have power over your own life, there's not...
by TranquilFury
Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

If you have the strength to kill yourself, no one can stop you. THAT is what makes this a right, rather than a privilege. Now that is a terrible argument. Not only does it justify anything a 'strong' enough person can do unopposed, it is also not actually true - though it would require a number of ...
by TranquilFury
Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:10 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Right to die.
Replies: 187
Views: 30126

Re: Right to die.

If you have the strength to kill yourself, no one can stop you. THAT is what makes this a right, rather than a privilege.
by TranquilFury
Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Controlling healthcare costs.
Replies: 117
Views: 16810

Re: Controlling healthcare costs.

Malpractice is a civil issue, not criminal. It SHOULD be a criminal issue for two reasons: 1: Any person taking employment where the cost of incompetence is human life should be charged with manslaughter if their incompetence kills someone. The same goes for a sloppy engineer, you should be held ac...
by TranquilFury
Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:49 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Controlling healthcare costs.
Replies: 117
Views: 16810

Re: Controlling healthcare costs.

1: Malpractice reform: Replace punitive damages with jail time. It's perfectly fine to give those injured by incompetence the compensation to overcome the injury, but punitive damages don't work and serve only to increase the cost of healthcare. 2: pharmaceutical research(patents and insurance): For...
by TranquilFury
Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:40 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult
Replies: 174
Views: 21758

Re: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult

So people who take a stance on political issues based on their religious beliefs are cultish? I'm not sure if you're comfortable writing off such a large set of people as cultists. Does it matter what you call them? They are still going to replace their own identities/priorities with the identity o...
by TranquilFury
Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What does left wing and right wing mean?
Replies: 92
Views: 21230

Re: What does left wing and right wing mean?

doesn't matter how many axes you grind, to accurately and precisely predict a politician's behavior you need 3 things: that politicians fundamental goals(can sometimes be inferred), an understanding of his/her competence(stupid people are unpredictable), and an understanding of the environment in wh...
by TranquilFury
Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:53 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult
Replies: 174
Views: 21758

Re: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult

I think we're using about 50 different definitions of the word respect here, the only kind of respect I have for religious organizations is the understanding that they have power over their flock, and that if I confront them or act in a manner detrimental to their interests, I had better damn well a...
by TranquilFury
Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:39 pm UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 1011: "Baby Names by Frank Zappa"
Replies: 302
Views: 79136

Re: 1011: "Baby Names"

So apparently it's a good thing i didn't get the alt text reference.
by TranquilFury
Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:45 am UTC
Forum: Hardware
Topic: Headphone wires that will not break.
Replies: 33
Views: 44214

Re: Headphone wires that will not break.

I've never had regularly used headphones last longer than 6 months without needing a splice.
by TranquilFury
Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:37 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult
Replies: 174
Views: 21758

Re: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult

It's group mentality instinct, you get a more firmly established identity within your group, whatever that might be, for alienating and dehumanizing outsiders. It works the same for cults, religions, political parties, nations, ethnicities, etc. smaller groups tend to be more tightly bonded and rest...
by TranquilFury
Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:28 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: What would it take for you to fight for your liberty?
Replies: 48
Views: 12964

Re: What would it take for you to fight for your liberty?

Not sure, there are different ways to fight, and which method would depend on circumstance. I would fight in some manner, political or whatnot if any of my primary objectives are threatened. I would probably only use a gun if my life was immediately threatened, because if it came down to a shooting ...
by TranquilFury
Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:36 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult
Replies: 174
Views: 21758

Re: Legitimate Faith vs Wacky Cult

I think Cult has more to do with weird controlling behaviors, manipulation, danger, harm done than it does the belief system. Judge beliefs however you want to. I'm not going to think an 8 year old is crazy because ze believes that Children all over the world are given toys by the same man in a sin...

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