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by Thesh
Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:16 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 124
Views: 39970

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

It seems like you think you have some right to stop people from speaking/writing/etc something that someone has already spoken/written/etc before. Not me personally, but society. And not just anything that someone has already spoken/etc before, but only certain kinds of creative output. Don't prete...
by Thesh
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:57 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15072
Views: 2485290

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Why not do a call for case studies, surveys of parents, etc? It just seems to me that there are better ways to find out how long objects take to pass than having adults ingest plastic, when children around the world are already ingesting objects on a regular basis.
by Thesh
Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:05 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15072
Views: 2485290

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Scientists determine the average time to poop out a swallowed Lego is 1.7 days . They determined this by ingesting the Legos themselves... Shoo in for this year's Ignoble awards. I don't think it should count if the only reason you are doing the experiment is to win an Ignoble. Kind of like the Gui...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

We today may have sufficiently low scarcity by any reasonable measure, but you're asking why would anyone ever, out of an initial state of peace and equality, start up an army to use violence to take things for themselves and exclude others. The answer to that is that those people starting up the a...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

We don't have a problem with scarcity, we have a problem with how we allocate resources, which would not be a problem in a system that is not enforced with violence. We have had the ability to completely avoid actual scarcity for well over a century on a global basis - we don't solve the problem wit...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

Please go back and read the thread if you have short memory span. What they can gain is written in the first line of your quote. First off, what kind of society could exist where violence (or the threat of it) was not an ongoing necessity? One where there is nothing to be gained from violence. If y...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

They can deny you both. If you don't do the same, you lose. If you do, that's violence. Who is they? What is this scenario that gives one person or a small group of people power over the means of production for the rest of society? What makes you think that the group that employs strategic options ...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:07 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

They could use other forms of population control, like having the females spayed, and then live off of carrion. There are scales of evil and they decided to say "fuck it".
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:51 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

They can deny you both. If you don't do the same, you lose. If you do, that's violence. Who is they? What is this scenario that gives one person or a small group of people power over the means of production for the rest of society? It would be awesome if we humans could eliminate violence from soci...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:10 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

I mean, you can decline to give people massages or something that's just performing an action upon them, but if you make something, like some food, and someone (who has been violent that you're thus trying to exclude from society) just comes and grabs it, what are you going to do? Not make any food...
by Thesh
Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:43 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

But to do that would also isolate them from society and leave them without access to the benefits of society. It would not do that by itself. Someone ("society") needs to actually enforce that against them. Which is (surprise!) violence, as defined by the WHO. You can deny people access t...
by Thesh
Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:08 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

As I stated, there are ways to defend yourself without harming someone, such as running away. Not always. In this case David is trapped in a bedroom being beaten with a weapon. You don't have to attempt to inflict harm to stop the attack; you can block, disarm, and then run away. You are trying to ...
by Thesh
Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

As I stated, there are ways to defend yourself without harming someone, such as running away. The question is why would Tom try to harm David to begin with? What does Tom gain from that violence? If they don't gain anything, then it's probably some sort of social issue or mental health issue that ne...
by Thesh
Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy
Replies: 63
Views: 6517

Re: Circle of Life as Political Philosophy

First off, what kind of society could exist where violence (or the threat of it) was not an ongoing necessity? One where there is nothing to be gained from violence. If your society doesn't recognize property rights then you can only steal for petty gain, and if people's needs are fulfilled then no...
by Thesh
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

I would say each reporter should ask questions that just happen to follow up the previous reporter's question whenever they are evasive.
by Thesh
Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:23 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

I hear that in Finland the government forces children to rake the forests if they misbehave.
by Thesh
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:15 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Candy slime is a thing.
by Thesh
Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:47 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 15072
Views: 2485290

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Apparently scientists want to add another supra-kingdom to the tree of life.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/hemi ... -1.4715823

This is why no one takes scientists seriously; their taxonomy has been proven wrong time and again, and they just keep going like it's no big deal.
by Thesh
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:42 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Nash Equilibrium in American politics
Replies: 120
Views: 25873

Re: Nash Equilibrium in American politics

My only concern is that voting reform will occur in blue states, making them more fair in favor of Republicans, and suppression will continue to get worse in red states, making them less fair in favor of Republicans. I'd really like to see the focus be on state and local elections, rather than natio...
by Thesh
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:37 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

One piece of advice that I've heard is that you shouldn't use police in any situation in which you wouldn't use a gun.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Laws and punishments are codified so that everyone knows not only what exactly is wrong but what the general punishment for a crime is, rather than being completely dependent upon the mood of the local prince that day. Nobody knows what the laws and punishments for those laws are. Strict adherence ...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

A complete lack of codified law leads eventually to literal mob rule. Having a structured justice system that explicitly tasks people with taking a calm and rational approach goes a long way. People will still be stupid, but setting expectations for rationality is better than not setting them. A st...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Again, laws make implicit judgements that the party who broke the law is in the wrong. That will influence the jury, and in practice the juries will likely just defer to the law. What, exactly, is your concern with not codifying murder? That people aren't going to recognize killing is wrong? Look in...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Juries determine the facts, not the law, and they have proven to be terrible and tend to defer to police judgement. And again, you still have the same problem - you aren't explaining how we can enforce the law consistently. The laws are only serving to protect the police from liability if they arres...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

LOL Please don't pretend that laws are applied consistently or that sentencing is at all sensible today. I would never dream of it. But since I was speaking in the context of your hypothetical scenario where society doesn't even *have* laws for the obvious things, I'm at a loss regarding the releva...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

LOL

Please don't pretend that laws are applied consistently or that sentencing is at all sensible today.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:54 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

You don't really need laws for the obvious things. You just need communities that know how to deal with the problems that arise. Laws are about lowering the bar for prosecution - instead of having to prove someone did something wrong, you only have to prove that they violated a law.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

The assumption made in having police is that people are inherently bad and, unless they fear the threat of violence, will just go around robbing and raping or whatever. We don't ask what conditions lead to crime, or how we could change things so people don't commit crimes - instead, we just send the...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:13 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1880
Views: 347191

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

A list of buses that were built by the government to use as a form of currency.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

cu it's hilarious that you think joining twin oaks or similar actually is like a get out of capitalism free card, that's not remotely how it works. we build communities like twin oaks as a way to survive and be less harmed under capitalism but it's so fucking stupid to think that that gets you out ...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Wait, so like if a cop makes up a crime*, and sends a person to jail, it's still the judge's fault? Aren't you underestimating how much control a cop has over who goes to jail? The cops have discretion not to arrest. They have the ability to talk to people and figure out how to resolve the situatio...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:33 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

I can't live my life without participating in capitalism. I can live my entire life without putting anyone in prison or throwing people out of their homes. I have, in fact.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

@ucim

You are deliberately misrepresenting what I said. I didn't say all cops torture, I said that if you send someone to prison you are participating in slavery and torture. This is inherent in our prison system, and by design.
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:10 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

That said, ACAB is absolutely true in America (it's impossible to be a good cop if you enforce our laws and send people to our prisons). Is this not also hyperbole? Or do you actually literally mean that there doesn't exist even one police officer in the entire country that is not a Bad Cop? Jose I...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:51 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2018 Midterm Elections Coverage
Replies: 217
Views: 32782

Re: 2018 Midterm Elections Coverage

by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

The "100%" was hyperbole, sure. In any group of people that self-identity with, there will be some people that differ on every issue; however, if they are voting for them then it is obviously not a very high priority. That said, ACAB is absolutely true in America (it's impossible to be a g...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:01 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Police misbehavior thread
Replies: 6555
Views: 1028644

Re: Police misbehavior thread

4 year old kid spends 8 hours locked in minivan at police impound.

http://www.wsfa.com/2018/11/14/year-old ... e-impound/
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:29 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

But outside of the warm and fuzzy feelings we get from making absolute statements about things that appear to be true, I don't think it ultimately serves us well -- particularly when it's demonstrably false. How, exactly, is it demonstrably false? Where are the Republicans who are showing enough co...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:29 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

1) The EPA was a republican creation 2) An argument can be made, not one I agree with but one I can respect, that the EPA and other pollution controls combined with free trade results in more pollution as the manufacturing just goes to the country with the least controls of all. Unless carbon caps ...
by Thesh
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:03 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 8371
Views: 702625

Re: Trump presidency

Eliminating the EPA is a core part of the Republican platform, and there isn't a single Republican in power that is not on board with destroying the environment. There are no Republicans who value human life in any form.

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