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by Thesh
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

If you work for a bed and a meal, where you get kicked out on the streets and starve to death if you stop working, would you consider that wage slavery? No wages are involved.

The ability to limit opportunity is not the same as the act of limiting opportunity.
by Thesh
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

So how much competition is necessary for there to be no slavery? Let's be explicit. Do you mean wage slavery (which is what it sounds like you are describing)? Jose What matters is the lack of opportunity caused by imbalances of power. The nature of their employment agreement is going to depend on ...
by Thesh
Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

So how much competition is necessary for there to be no slavery? In the case of one property owner, the laborers will accept barely enough to survive. What if half the people own property, and the other half don't? Are there not going to be some people in the same situation as above? If some people ...
by Thesh
Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

If one person owns all of the land, is everyone else not basically the same as a slave? No. That is not a sufficient condition (although in the real world it may easily engender sufficient conditions). It matters what (if anything) this "one person" demands, and how they demand it. It als...
by Thesh
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:58 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7962
Views: 605188

Re: Trump presidency

The whole point of Republicans is that they believe corporations should be able to act with impunity.
by Thesh
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:57 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

We measure wealth in money. Do I need a citation for that as well? Your argument was it resulted in less wealth. Saying that we spent more money on something doesn't imply that we have less wealth. If one person owns all of the land, is everyone else not basically the same as a slave? They have not...
by Thesh
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

If one person owns all of the land, is everyone else not basically the same as a slave? They have nothing that they can't take without threat of violence. At what point do the people who own nothing not become the slaves to people who own everything? It seems that all levels of wealth inequality res...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:55 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Your claim was that they reduce choice and overall wealth. Reduce wealth, yes. Reduce choice is a maybe. Safety nets are costly, so the wealth thing is pretty obvious, though the US's system is particularly expensive. No, it's not obvious. If the government doesn't pay for it, you either don't get ...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Your claim was that they reduce choice and overall wealth.
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Literally, you are pointing to something that exists in the ACA but absolutely no social safety net to claim that social safety nets reduce choice and wealth. The ACA is so much different than any social safety net, that it's pretty dubious to call it one. Your argument is the equivalent to arguing ...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

The point is that the features you are talking about in your example are not really features of safety nets in general, and it's very specific to this one way of doing things, mainly because we didn't design the ACA as a safety net but as a way to get more people insured. Safety nets don't disappear...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:49 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

The entire reason we have that is because we wanted to extend healthcare coverage with the minimum amount of change to the existing system, and wanted to minimize government spending. The same problem existed before the ACA, but the marketplace has extended coverage to people without coupling it to ...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Employer-based healthcare isn't a social safety net.
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:51 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Tyndmyr wrote:Social safety nets reduce overall wealth and may actually further limit practical choices.


Citation needed. The reason we have social safety nets is because wealth inequality reduces overall wealth and reduces practical choices.
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

It's a matter of alternatives. If you allow an environment where some people will own property and others don't, then the people who don't own property will be fully dependent on the people who do for survival, and that is a relationship that can lead to exploitation. Without welfare, areas where pe...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:38 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Sure, there might be some imperfection in justice that someone is constrained to support a library that he or she hates, but without an actual example, the wrongs remain largely hypothetical. It's like the talk earlier about freedom to sell oneself into slavery. Nobody's out there protesting for th...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7962
Views: 605188

Re: Trump presidency

The estate should be taxed, not the child's income on the estate, and the loan should be seen as an asset valued around the payoff amount.
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:58 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Star Truck: A Series to be Named Later
Replies: 10
Views: 2443

Re: Star Truck: A Series to be Named Later

I think the utopian stuff started to get lost starting with TNG; the Prime directive causing Starfleet to embrace moral relativism and Social Darwinism, Starfleet becoming more and more authoritarian, the tolerance of the Klingon empire and portrayal of a people that conquers and enslaves other worl...
by Thesh
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:15 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Star Truck: A Series to be Named Later
Replies: 10
Views: 2443

Re: Star Truck: A Series to be Named Later

I don't know, it seems like Star Trek has been all downhill since DS9. Voyager and Enterprise at least tried to keep to canon, but it's like everything they made since is about bringing the widest audience with a complete disregard for the existing universe.
by Thesh
Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:37 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7962
Views: 605188

Re: Trump presidency

Lying on a loan application because you know that if you tell the truth they won't give you a loan is fraud. Generally speaking, lying for financial gain is wrong unless you are in a position of power.
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

There is no problem that needs solving; that's all in your head. That you refuse to see that is your problem, not mine. You can come up with a billion of your stupid little scenarios, and you will keep missing the point, and keep failing to understand what it means to have competition, alternatives ...
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:19 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Because no one will pay them that if they have a choice. But, yes, I realize that an economy with competition and multiple people is too complicated for your tiny little brain to comprehend, which is why I have to repeat that there are other people that can do the job over and over and over and over...
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:38 am UTC
Forum: Fictional Science
Topic: Why do starship captains say "you've got x/4 hours" when the engineers ask for x?
Replies: 10
Views: 1926

Re: Why do starship captains say "you've got x/4 hours" when the engineers ask for x?

I was actually looking for the clip of the TNG episode Relics when I found that. In that case, Geordi was telling Scotty pretty much exactly that.
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:39 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Well, if they won't act in their own best interest, then I'm not sure what your argument is. You can use government to manipulate them into behaving better by preventing people from copying each other? Doesn't sound very libertarian. And again, the value of the design is the labor value of what it w...
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:17 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

All you are demonstrating here is a lack of imagination; it's as if you think there is only one possible way that things can work. In this case, you go to a customer, sell them your design, then go to another customer, sell them your design, then go to another customer... But you don't have to do it...
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:06 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

They would sell the design, not the tool.
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:09 am UTC
Forum: Individual XKCD Comic Threads
Topic: 2026: Heat Index
Replies: 30
Views: 3464

Re: 2026: Heat Index

Archgeek wrote:I think there sort of is? Dorks call it "RealFeel" and may've gone as far as to trademark the mess. It's said to be poorly calibrated.


Apparently that's proprietary. This one is used by the military:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_ ... emperature
by Thesh
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:52 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

That's not the canonical definition of "efficient market", but whatever. You're only concerned with money. Money is just a medium of exchange. I'm simply replacing money with real resources, specifically the one that makes up the vast majority of our economy and has the most ability to ad...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

The Libertarian alternative is to have the state concerned only with protecting private property ownership, and have faith that the rules of capitalism will sort out most of the problems, and that charity will handle the rest.
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

First off, your definition of the "efficent market" is not the same as the generally accepted definition of the term. What you are describing is more a "commoditized" market, where the goods are undistinguished from each other. My definition of efficient market is that someone c...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Okay, so the first.

EDIT:

Oh me yarm, look at all these operating systems that are colluding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POS ... ng_systems

How devious!
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:20 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

You're either an idiot, or you didn't read what I wrote. I wasn't talking about a company, I was talking about many different independent companies that create a highly competitive market with standardized, open license parts in order to bring down profit margins across the entire industry. That's ...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:03 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Alright, if you're going to buy a stock, you're either going to save for it, or you're going to borrow money to buy it. In either case, you need profits to actually pay for the thing. Either beforehand for saving, or afterwards, to pay back the loan. No, you don't need profits to invest, and paying...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

If you save up money to get a thing, you book profits while saving. Huh? Consumers are reducing their savings and not expecting a cash return. Seriously, you were trying to explain why profits in and of themselves are a good thing, now you are literally saying that investing money is profiting in o...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:32 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

These are all odd assumptions. They are facts, not assumptions. Alright, let us consider an actual common industry, the manufacturing of plastic objects. You, an individual, wish to craft an object from plastic and sell it. Let's say a 2" by 2" part with some detail. What it is barely mat...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

Profit provides you with the funds to improve efficiency, as well as give flexibility if case of market fluctuations. This has already been covered, are you trolling at this point? 1) Profits shift money around, they don't add anything. Once a business is established, the most profitable ventures a...
by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:24 am UTC
Forum: Forum Games
Topic: Ignore this
Replies: 11
Views: 1982

Re: Ignore this

by Thesh
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:01 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7962
Views: 605188

Re: Trump presidency

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group , as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately...
by Thesh
Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Libertarianism
Replies: 856
Views: 38063

Re: Libertarianism

You state that people should be rewarded for their labor but not for the use of their property, without explaining why. I've explained why many times, but for you to understand this you would need to for once in your fucking lifetime view things from the perspective of someone that is not the prope...

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