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by LaserGuy
Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: I don't understand the faith people put in religious texts
Replies: 371
Views: 57741

Re: I don't understand the faith people put in religious tex

DSenette wrote:the new testament has a quite few things that aren't terribly pleasant either, like revelation.


And Hell...
by LaserGuy
Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:43 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14874
Views: 2322693

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/26/jenna-talackova-miss-universe-canada-disqualified/ edit: It's not meant to be a humours link. It's just an item of interest. In fact the last few articles that was linked on this forum are not very humous at all. Thanks. Also I find the article very self-expl...
by LaserGuy
Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:23 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2102
Views: 322175

Re: A Song of Lice and Ire

And some minor book spoilers: I wonder what they'll do with Robb this season. He was barely in book 2 at all (did he even have a single chapter?) - all his battles in the west were 'off stage' in the book; you learnt about them when other characters discussed the war. But they&#...
by LaserGuy
Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:38 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2102
Views: 322175

Re: A Song of Lice and Ire

By the way, how big is Westeros supposed to be? I originally thought it was supposed to be a fantasy version of Britain; King's Landing is roughly where London would be, and the wall is roughly where Hadrian's Wall would be (and seems to be used for much the same purpose). Northern Westerosians hav...
by LaserGuy
Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:59 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: I don't understand the faith people put in religious texts
Replies: 371
Views: 57741

Re: I don't understand the faith people put in religious tex

I'm aware of the passage, thanks. But that passage is from within the Bible itself. How do you know that when you boil down all of the "details" that that particular section is one that should be kept? How do I know? It's a judgement call. You are free to make the same judgement call or a...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:34 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: I don't understand the faith people put in religious texts
Replies: 371
Views: 57741

Re: I don't understand the faith people put in religious tex

Can it? I mean, I know that it is claimed that the Bible can be boiled down to this, but can you actually do the boiling down to demonstrate that this is the case? It's hard to do that other than to simply to quote the passage around it. It's clearly agreed that everything else - all the thousands ...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:06 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

The very interesting part of this is it is not required to be a practicing Christian to benefit from being a Christian. And it has never been my point. You are still a member if you say that you believe in God. Most churches in the US follow a similar pattern, declining attendance and so on. Partic...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:41 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: I don't understand the faith people put in religious texts
Replies: 371
Views: 57741

Re: I don't understand the faith people put in religious tex

elasto wrote:Well, like I say, the whole thing can be boiled down to 'love God and love your neighbour'.


Can it? I mean, I know that it is claimed that the Bible can be boiled down to this, but can you actually do the boiling down to demonstrate that this is the case?
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:16 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Tell me what percentage of the Canadian population is Atheist? According to the most recent census, 16% of Canadians claim "no religion". However, only about 20% of professed Christians have weekly church attendance, and only about 40% have monthly attendance, and these figures continue t...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:36 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Thanks Griffin. "Only extremely rarely a rational stance" is not as harsh as saying "not rational". So thank you for recognising my viewpoint. I am not sure which evidence you are pointing to that suggests our universe is infinite time wise or in a perpetual loop? Can you presen...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

I don't think I stand by myself in this, I know I do. If I want to do business I had better be prepared to do it with Christians, there isn't a large enough Atheist community that is cohesive enough to supply me with a living. If I want to get elected to public office then being a Atheist is verbot...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Then from the evidence, we can see that the observable universe has a "A -> B" or caused state. We can currently look as far back as the big bang or the most densest part of it. So until I see a claim that this is an uncaused event, I can only assume the event before it was uncaused (my a...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:14 pm UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Game of Thrones: The TV Show (novelisation coming soon)
Replies: 2102
Views: 322175

Re: A Song of Lice and Ire

My thoughts on this episode: A little disappointing, honestly. Not a whole lot actually happened--it spend most of the time reminding us of where everyone was and what they were up to, and moving characters into their appropriate places for the rest of the series. And introducing Stannis, of course....
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:28 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Hunger games
Replies: 79
Views: 14925

Re: Hunger games

What I don't get: why don't more people volunteer? There's a 1 in 24 chance of fame and glory, you'd expect there'd be at least a couple people training for that in the poor districts. Hell, in the 74 years it has been going on, there had to be at least 1 psycho in all of District 11 who'd voluntee...
by LaserGuy
Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:07 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

What would be acceptable evidence? Strictly speaking, none of these pieces of data are, in fact, sufficient to establish that there is a God as described by most religious. None of these would rule the possibility, for example, that the event is caused by an extremely advanced alien civilization th...
by LaserGuy
Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:59 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Hunger games
Replies: 79
Views: 14925

Re: Hunger games

I kept hoping they'd spend just a few moments on the other tributes. We only caught glimpses of them, and I know the film was really long as is, but 10 or 15 second on each one/pair would only add 3 or 4 minutes to the run-time. Well, the way they were portrayed in the movie was fairly consistent w...
by LaserGuy
Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:16 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

What would be acceptable evidence? Hmm... How about this: Every single prayer that is made by a Christian is granted. Always. Just like it says in the Bible. And this effect didn't work for anybody else, but as soon as you became a Christian it would work for you, too. And none of this "I pray...
by LaserGuy
Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:37 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Israel/Palestine discussion
Replies: 6262
Views: 497970

Re: Israel/Palestine discussion

What you are saying is that the US should simply take Israel's stance, rather than being impartial. Why should the US take Israel's stance? Because Israel is always right, of course. And because if they don't, the Jewish lobby will spend millions getting all the people who didn't take Israel's stan...
by LaserGuy
Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:01 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Oh, I'm not saying that the feelings aren't real. I'm sure that they are. And it is certainly possible to make a lot of people all feel the same thing, all at once. If I show a large group of people pictures of cute puppies, You're using "feel" in a way that is obviously different than th...
by LaserGuy
Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:34 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Israel/Palestine discussion
Replies: 6262
Views: 497970

Re: Israel/Palestine discussion

self-determination http://images.wikia.com/vsrecommendedgames/images/c/c9/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg Self-determination is the ability for nations (distinct from states/countries, just so we're clear) to choose their sovereignty and international political status free of outside influence.
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14874
Views: 2322693

Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Indonesia considering passing a law that would consider skirts above the knee to be pornographic and presumably banned in public places. [Trigger warning]There are a few quotes in the article made about provocative clothing and its relationship to sexual assault that some might find offensive[/Trigg...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:18 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Israel/Palestine discussion
Replies: 6262
Views: 497970

Re: Israel/Palestine discussion

Anyways, the Palestinians have already 'seceded'. They've had their own land since Oslo. The question was not whether the Palestinians should or should not have their own state, but whether they have a right to their own state. Uh, if the Palestinians have already seceded from Israel, then Israel h...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:32 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Experiences that you yourself feel but nobody else does aren't very convincing. But it isn't nobody else. Depending on your church, it's a few dozen, or even hundreds of people in the room experiencing the exact same thing you are, confirming that what you are feeling is real. Oh, I'm not saying th...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

You nitpick at his wording and miss the point. If you've ever been around deeply religious people a lot, you may realize that people who are deeply religious all quite literally physically "feel" the presence of God. That is their evidence and from that perspective it is quite rational to...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:27 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Sorry I was not leaving it as a strawman, but purposefully open. So that anyone can mention the evidence they think is relevant (for or against theism/atheism). Why not just mention my own consideration of evidence? Well, because someone sees presents and says "they got here by chance" an...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:11 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Israel/Palestine discussion
Replies: 6262
Views: 497970

Re: Israel/Palestine discussion

The other people in the country. If New York decides to secede, that hurts the rest of the United States. Except that doesn't matter, according to you: A negative impact on another country doesn't determine a right or lack thereof to sovereignty. I never said that if the existence of your country h...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:21 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

I would like to agree with LazerGuy to such an extent, to go so far as instead of saying "what proof of god is there?" but rather "is there any reason for us to invent him in the first place?" I posted http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=82278 I was lead to creating ...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: U.S. Republican Primary
Replies: 2855
Views: 275473

Re: U.S. Republican Primary

Romney is apparently taking some flak for a telling a "humorous" anecdote about how his father shut down an auto factory in Michigan. Apparently people in the Rust Belt are still a little sensitive about stories relating to job losses.
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:09 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Obsession over grades is killing American Education
Replies: 188
Views: 23106

Re: Obsession over grades is killing American Education

Knowing your subject well however, the importance of that can hardly be overstated. It doesn't matter how good your study material is, books can never replace teachers. Because books can not possibly answer all the questions students may have. Nor can they explain the same subject in 10 different w...
by LaserGuy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:38 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

What if you grew up knowing your parents, then someone says "your parents do not exist"? This is the mountain your trying to prove to people does not exist. Think about how that will sound to them for a moment. Uh, nobody is trying to prove that God doesn't exist. That isn't necessary. It...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:39 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Yes there is. The child has never observed an obese man going through a chimney pipe. It has never observed reindeer flying in the sky. The child has never observed the same person being present in all the shopping malls of the world. These are extraordinary claims for which the child has never see...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:18 pm UTC
Forum: Books
Topic: Hunger Games
Replies: 79
Views: 96033

Re: Hunger Games

I guess what was missing was the urgency of the performance, and the juxtoposition of the fact that Peeta once saved her life by throwing her intentionally burnt bread. They kind of glossed over the bread thing, and barely even indicated that Peeta risked his own ass to get a loaf of bread to her. ...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:46 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Sure, if God physically appeared in front of me, did a couple magic tricks to show off his power, and let me take a picture of us together so I would know later that I wasn't hallucinating, I'd probably be a theist. You of course realize that Religions are based on exactly this type of so called pe...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:32 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

qubital wrote:Im referring to "atheism" as the means of an atheist activist


The Oatmeal has explained the problem here nicely.
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Obsession over grades is killing American Education
Replies: 188
Views: 23106

Re: Obsession over grades is killing American Education

The article gets somewhat surrealistic when the writer cites figures about teachers being absent much more than other professions. Yes, the fact that teachers are ill or overworked so often must mean that they have easy jobs. Clearly. *headdesks*. Why are you assuming that the only reason they are ...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:29 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: US Mega Millions Lottery Jackpot reaches $500 Million
Replies: 96
Views: 16029

Re: US Mega Millions Lottery Jackpot reaches $500 Million

I tried to search the fora for an existing thread about the Lottery / Mega Millions, but didn't see anything worth bumping. I find the psychology behind the lottery quite interesting - even though the odds of winning are always the same, more people buy tickets when the jackpot is larger. I was eve...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:20 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

Well, it depends on what evidence you have for you God, I suppose. If God revealed Himself to you, then you would have perfect evidence and a perfectly rational reason to be a theist: you would know that god exists. Sure, if God physically appeared in front of me, did a couple magic tricks to show ...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:17 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Obsession over grades is killing American Education
Replies: 188
Views: 23106

Re: Obsession over grades is killing American Education

Teachers spend lots of evenings and weekends preparing lessons or tests, grading tests, etc. Most salaried workers put in more than 40 hours a week. Especially those of us who have to travel for work. Edit: Added quote for clarity According to this (Canadian) , this (UK) , teachers and other educat...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:55 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

I was about to post something along the lines of what Griffin said, but ze phrased it better, I think. Facts, or statements, are not in themselves rational or irrational - it's the choice to believe the fact or statement as truth which is, or is not, rational. And, as stated, you can believe true t...
by LaserGuy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:40 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?
Replies: 570
Views: 50849

Re: Is Atheism a Rational Stance?

LaserGuy, is that "ideologies" or the individuals who want to get others to follow them? The same is done in all walks of life (science, family, business). When a majority might lie or swindle. Do we say "business is wrong" or "family is wrong". Or is it the individual...

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