Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

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Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:30 am UTC

I figured I would start up Thumbtacks again. The rules below are shamelessly copy-pasted from the last game. thecamoninja, if you are against me swiping your rules, let me know!

The Basic Concept
Each round, there is a new cork board a certain number of inches high. Each player has a thumbtack, which they place into the board a certain number of inches from the bottom. You gain points based on where you placed your tack in relation to the placement of every other tack. The player with the most points at the end of the game wins. Some rounds may also feature a twist or modification to the basic rules to keep things interesting (check the previous threads to see examples).


The Gameplay
Each round, I will post a description detailing the basic height of the board and any twists or modifications taking place that round. Each player will then submit the height at which they wish to place their thumbtack in the form of an @username5243 spoiler or PM (at your choice), like this:

@username5243:
Spoiler:
Round 1: 16 inches


Or a PM with the same content, but not in spoiler tags.
Once everyone's submission is in, I will calculate scores and post the results, followed shortly thereafter by the next round.


Scoring
Your basic score is determined by the difference between the height at which you place your tack and the height of the tack directly below you.
So, if Player A places a tack at 12 inches, and Player B places a tack at 8 inches with no one below him, Player A scores (12-8) = 4 points, and Player B scores 8 points.
If two players try to place their tacks at the same height, they stab each other and both score 0 points that round.
Significantly, this also means that there are fewer tacks on the board and anyone directly above them that they would have blocked now gets more points.


On Schemes and Skullduggery
Please, please, make plots and plans and alliances! It will make the game more interesting for everyone involved if there's something going on other than just individuals making their own bets on what number is optimal. To this end, feel free to address spoiler-messages or PMs to any other player, saying whatever you would like in order to help you come out ahead. This will be especially helpful if someone scores very high and begins to dominate the game - it may require a coordinated effort to topple them. If you send PMs to other players, however, please CC them to me so I can keep track.


Final Thoughts
I've been using the spoiler system for games that require secrecy like this for a while now, because it keeps the thread alive so people don't forget about it and because it is far more convenient for me to just check the thread than to sort through ten or more PMs each round. However, this means that it is possible to read what other people are saying, which is why I am stating right here:

It is very explicitly against the rules to read a spoiler that is not addressed to you.

Do not open other people's @username5243 spoilers. Do not open spoilers posted by one player and addressed to another that is not you. We're operating on the honor system here for the sake of everyone's convenience. If you cheat, you're ruining the game for everyone, including yourself. You can also use PMs if you prefer not to worry about people reading your messages. However, if you do this, CC me in the PM so I can read it.
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Do not use the quote button to quote texts from posts with spoilers in them, or you run the risk of seeing the plain text of the spoiler in the 'post a reply' page. If you really need to quote something in this thread, use copy/paste instead.
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If you wish to change your submission, make a new post and state in your spoiler that you're making a change. You can edit your old post if you want, but I will not check it.
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Only integers are allowed for thumbtack placement, unless there is a twist or other feature that says otherwise. I will tell you if this is the case.
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The end of the game is a bit fluid right now. It will ultimately depend on how many people sign up and the group's individual preferences, but right now as a baseline I'm thinking we'll end after 6 rounds.
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Role-playing in line with (or out of line with, even!) the flavor I establish is encouraged but by no means necessary. How much flavor I write will depend on what I'm feeling like at the moment and on how fast I want to get the results or the new round up, but however much you write is up to you! See the previous thread for examples.

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Sorry if that was a bit wall-of-text-y. Here's the signup sheet; I'm looking for anywhere between six and ten players:

1. faubiguy
2. Vytron
3. phillip1882
4. adnapemit
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby faubiguy » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:37 am UTC

/in

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:46 am UTC

Welcome faubiguy!

I added the part about PMs because it is my understanding that they were used occasionally in the last game. However it seemed to be that way because of that Aarex guy who was behaving questionably. I'll still allow you to use PMs, even though Aarex is gone.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby Vytron » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:08 am UTC

/in

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:10 am UTC

Welcome Vytron!
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby phillip1882 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:17 am UTC

meh what the hell, sign me up.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:23 am UTC

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby faubiguy » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:24 am UTC

I think secret communication should all be in spoiler-PMs in thread, so we can see when two people might be scheming. Otherwise. it puts people who use spoiler-PMs at a disadvantage to those who use real PMs (and makes the thread less interesting to spectators or people reading through after the game's done)

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:26 am UTC

Well, the thing is, you do it either way. With PMs it is more difficult because you won't know who's scheming. Or you could start making alliances in-thread and then continue with PMs. Your choice.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby Vytron » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:07 am UTC

faubiguy raises a good point, people communicating in thread are strictly at a disadvantage because other people know they're communicating, while people doing it by PM can keep it secret. So I believe the game would benefit if people communicating by PM had to announce they're doing so in the thread (see the whispers of Two Rooms and a Boom, which worked well, though I'll stick to in-thread spoilers in any case).

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Sure, if you tell me what number you'll be picking I promise to not block you.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby adnapemit » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:30 am UTC

/in
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:06 am UTC

Welcome adnapemit!

4 players in now. Looking for up to 5 or 6 more.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby phillip1882 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:13 pm UTC

@vytron
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last time i did /2.7 which worked fairly well. this time i think i'll do cube root. i'll let you know what number that results in.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:58 pm UTC

Bump

Still looking for 2 to 6 more people!
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby faubiguy » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:37 pm UTC

Is this still possibly going to happen? We need more players if anyone else is interested.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby Vytron » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:21 am UTC

I think we need at least another one.

Hey, why doesn't username5243 sign up?

We could have rotational modding. The first stack is created by him, but we have someone different creating each one.

I propose that the mod of each round scores as follows:

Post, in a spoiler, your "Black Horse", which is, the player you think will score the most.

At the end of the round, you score as much as your BH.

I think that with such a system we can already start playing.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby careyhammer » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:25 am UTC

/in
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby faubiguy » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:33 am UTC

As long as the setup for each round is completely open and the mod only looks at other players' moves after submitting their own, is there any reason the mod couldn't play normally?

I prefer a single game that ends at some point and has the same mod the entire time to an ongoing game with rotating moderation. If players want to play again after this game ends we can always start a Thumbtacks 5.0.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby Vytron » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:05 pm UTC

faubiguy wrote:As long as the setup for each round is completely open and the mod only looks at other players' moves after submitting their own, is there any reason the mod couldn't play normally?


Oh. Strange. I just assumed it was that kind of game because no mod has ever played in a previous incarnation. But, indeed, I think your question should have made the mod play every game since the first one.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:20 pm UTC

hmm...why not?

I'll give you all a few more days if you haven't signed up yet.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby careyhammer » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:44 am UTC

How many days are a few?
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby emlightened » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:43 pm UTC

Apparently this many, since it was posted on the discussion thread today.

/in

Although user might want to check that all of the players still want to play.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:46 pm UTC

Okay, round 1 will begin soon! I'll send a PM to everyone who signed up, but I may start the round early anyways.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby faubiguy » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:10 pm UTC

/confirm

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby username5243 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:14 pm UTC

Okay, welcome to the fourth xkcd Thumbtacks Competition, everyone! I'll be the host for this year!

*the audience applauds as the six contenders walk in*

We've got six competitors ready for you to watch! Let's meet them!

We've got faubiguy!

Vytron!

phillip1882!

adnapemit!

careyhammer!

and emlightened!

*As each contestant's name is called, he or she walks up on stage*

Welcome, all! Now, we've got some intriguing twists for you all, but first let me show you the thumbtack room!

*Everyone walks offstage and enters a doorway on the right. The room is simply furished and looks ordinary.*

Now, let my colleague drag the board in, so I can go out and provide commentary to the spectators!

*The host leaves. Meanwhile, an average-looking man with average-looking features drags a board in from a secret passage.*

The average-looking man speaks. "I assume many of you know how to play this game. The board height for this first round is 45 inches, and there will be no special twists this round. Remember, you earn points equal to the difference between your tack and the next one below you, but if two tacks land in the same inch they stab each other and neither one scores. Good luck!"

*the contestants begin strategizing*

Board Height: 45 inches
Twist: None

Okay, let's get this game started! Post your decisions for where to place your tacks either in spoilers in this thread or in PM's to me. You may strategize and chat with each other in either @<username> spoilers (for whoever you're talking to) or PM's. If you should use PM's, please copy them to me.

And...Let the competition begin!
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby emlightened » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:29 pm UTC

@username5243:
Spoiler:
Round 1: 20 inches


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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby adnapemit » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:59 pm UTC

@username5243
Spoiler:
Round 1: 37 inches
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby careyhammer » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:36 pm UTC

@username5243
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39 inches!
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Sign Ups

Postby emlightened » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:36 pm UTC

username, you might want to change the title.

Or not, if they're actually still open.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby Vytron » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:03 am UTC

I confirm that I exist. Probably, as I'm not sure I'm thinking... this right...

Anyway, phillip1882 has quit the forum, please don't wait for his actions.

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38

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby faubiguy » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:00 am UTC

@username5243
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43

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby username5243 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:49 pm UTC

Okay, I'll accept a replacement for phillip1882. I'm gonna change the title.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Replacement Needed!

Postby faubiguy » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:55 pm UTC

If you don't get a replacement I think you can run it with just 5 players.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Replacement Needed!

Postby thecamoninja » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:35 am UTC

My legacy!!! I'd be happy to step in as a replacement here; I've never actually played in one of these.

(And no, I don't mind you jacking my rules write-up :P )
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Replacement Needed!

Postby username5243 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:19 am UTC

Alright, welcome thecamoninja! The game has started, the board height for the first round is 45 inches and there are no special modifications.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby faubiguy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:47 pm UTC

@emlightened
Spoiler:
Here's a simple deal: one of us agrees to put their tack somewhere in the bottom half (0-22), and the other somewhere in the top half (23-45), so that we can't block each other. If you agree, you can choose which half you want, and I'll take the other half.

If you want, you may extend this deal to a third player (so we each choose a different third), and I'll take whichever third you and the other player don't.

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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby emlightened » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:01 pm UTC

@faubiguy, thecamoninja
Spoiler:
faubiguy wrote:Here's a simple deal: one of us agrees to put their tack somewhere in the bottom half (0-22), and the other somewhere in the top half (23-45), so that we can't block each other. If you agree, you can choose which half you want, and I'll take the other half.

If you want, you may extend this deal to a third player (so we each choose a different third), and I'll take whichever third you and the other player don't.

Want to join us, thecamoninja? If yes, you get first dibs on the third you want.

I'll take the lowest third available after camo posts his reply, or the lower half if he disagrees.
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby thecamoninja » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:29 pm UTC

There is a lull onstage and amongst the crowd as all wait with bated breath for the first thumbtack placements. In the tense quiet of the room, one competitor, perhaps a little too anxious or overly excited, steps up before the mark is given, but catches themself as they notice no one else has moved yet, and realize their mistake. In one horrifyingly awkward moment, they try to stop themself, but stumble over their own feet and nearly trip forward into the board. In their attempt to counter-balance and avert disaster, they instead stumble backwards and fall off the stage entirely. There is a crash and a shriek. Everyone nearby leans in to survey the damage. A trickle of blood runs down the competitor's temple: as they fell, they seem to have flung up their hand in surprise and stabbed themself in the forehead. Time weighs heavily; it seems like a full minute before anyone speaks. Then, a voice from the audience:

"God dammit, phillip."

The crowd parts. A figure steps forward from among them.

"They'll be fine. Someone get them a beer and a band-aid. Meanwhile, uh, I guess I'll fill in?"

The person yanks the tack from phillips head and stares at it for a moment.

"One second," they say, and go back to their seat to rummage in the pockets of their jacket. They return wearing leather gloves, and vault up onstage one-handed, phillip's already bloodied tack held between thumb and forefinger in the other.

"Alright y'all, camo has entered the battlefield. Let's go."


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Spoiler:
Round 1: 7 inches
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby emlightened » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:17 pm UTC

username5243:
Spoiler:
14 inches
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Re: Thumbtacks 4.0 - Round 1

Postby faubiguy » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:58 am UTC

@username5243
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I put my thumbtack at 41


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