Cradarc wrote:Yeah, I think we are in agreement. I was responding to the OP by saying there shouldn't be any conclusions drawn from the spheres. We need more information before trying to work out an explanation.
I'm not so sure. Sure, we absolutely need more information...but I would tentatively suggest that you can
reasonably draw the provisional conclusion that there's a particle (be it the Higgs or not) that we're missing in that slot. If there was once some intelligence out there (ancient civilization or alien or whatever) which was capable of precisely identifying the relative masses of the electron, the nucleons, the four quarks, and the W and Z bosons, then it seems highly unlikely that they were less advanced than we are. Thus it would seem reasonable to "trust" (at least provisionally) their apparent measurements of the Higgs or other unknown particles, at least until we've advanced to the point of being able to determine how "they" got their information.
It's a different sort of confidence, I suppose, but I don't think it's unreasonable.
Quizatzhaderac wrote:I think archeologically, the next steps would entirely depend on the exact context of the spheres.
"This is our repository of natural knowledge, these stones represent the smallest possible things" with masses of the know particles, plus testable predictions of two other Higgs-like particles would be incredibly exciting; It would show our picture of the civilization was significantly wrong and give use reasons not usually associated with archeology to investigate.
A bunch of stones in an unmarked rooms is just numerology.
Sadly, context is not always preserved. But just because we have lost the precise context (perhaps explanatory context exists, but in a language we are unable to translate) doesn't mean we should give up on learning something from them. These stones were intentionally fabricated for a purpose by a civilization capable of doing so and intentionally stored together. It's not a lot to go on, but it's something to set it apart from "the combined height of the Pyramids divided by the width of the Nile times the orbital radius of the Earth times exactly 100,000,000 is the precise distance to Alpha Centauri!!1!!" sort of numerology.
mfb wrote:Would someone even bother to weight the stones and calculate the ratios? Would someone try to find a pattern in the masses at all - assuming most archeologists don't recognize the proton to electron mass ratio?
Oh, probably not. The archaeologists who discovered it would likely take some basic measurements like diameter or circumference and then file it away in the "that's odd" category. It would probably be a while before someone like yourself, with experience in particle physics, was absent-mindedly paging through the Wikipedia list of unexplained archaeological discoveries and came across them and recognized what the ratios might represent.