Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

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If you were to light yourself on fire, would you be naked or clothed?

Naked
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58%
Clothed
49
42%
 
Total votes: 118

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Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby alexis.a.hill » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:12 pm UTC

My friend and I have come to a disagreement. We are asking that you, good people, decide who is right in this matter.

Say you are insane. (If you're already insane, congratulations are in order, as you are one step ahead of the rest of us.)
You want to set yourself on fire with the aid of some sort of effective fire accelerant that you will be coated in.

You are not doing this as a protest, nor as a suicide attempt. In fact, whether or not you live or die is not of consequence here, nor is how much pain you will experience.
Your only motivation is to become one with the flame.

Given these restrictions, would you be clothed or naked when you lit yourself in fire?


I believe that it makes sense to be naked. I'm not entirely certain why, it just seems...right. Pure.
He, on the other hand, believes that it makes sense to be fully clothed. His reason is that he isn't going to die without clothes on.

So far, we have surveyed at least 60 people at our school. We've even asked some of our teachers.
Presently, 19 are for being nude, and 20 are against.
We had many neutrals and people who wouldn't answer. I wonder why.

Both sides keep rising a small amount, then leveling out. It's really quite irritating, and this has been going for several days.

Please settle this. I'd like to be able to concentrate on my work rather than naked people on fire.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby poxic » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:50 pm UTC

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby alexis.a.hill » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:02 am UTC

It's more about my side winning than my concentration at this point, really.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Kithplana » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:06 am UTC

Definitely naked. Clothes have a nasty habit of remaining a separate entity from one's body, and if my only motivation is to become one with the flame, it doesn't make sense to have clothes in the way.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Deva » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:10 am UTC

Does flesh burn well? Probably melts. Assumes better flames from clothing, particularly cotton or fake fur. Votes clothed.

(Imagine the newspaper story, also. Definitely prefers clothes.)
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby brenok » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:16 am UTC

That is a lot of restriction you put there...

Based on them, I chose naked. Because of two reasons;

You said the only objective is to be "one with the flame", so obviously direct contact makes it better.

And, I assume (without much knowledge, so could be wrong) that skin isn't a very good combustible, so a great motivator was the "some sort of effective fire accelerant that you will be coated in"

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby philsov » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:18 am UTC

In fact, whether or not you live or die is not of consequence here, nor is how much pain you will experience.
Your only motivation is to become one with the flame.


Then naked, obviously. I want to be on fire. The clothes only serve as a separate entity to surround me with fire, but will cause my flesh to smolder instead of just burn alight.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby omgryebread » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:20 am UTC

I'd probably go with naked, for kind of the same reason Deva went with clothed. I'd imagine

"...22 year old female removed her clothes, applied an accelerant and set herself on fire" sounds more... poetic. Like there's some great meaning in the entire action.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:09 am UTC

Both.

Strip naked, coat self with petroleum jelly, coat self in lighter fluid, soak clothing in kerosene, wear clothing, strike match, become one with flame.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby dudiobugtron » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:54 am UTC

I would fashion my own clothes from the fire. Probably a blazer and some flares.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby scarecrovv » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:57 am UTC

If my goal is to become one with the flame, then in my mind that requires that I combust as completely as possible. Since I doubt that I would be terribly flammable after the fuel is consumed, the initial quantity of fuel must be as high as possible. Clothing would allow me to hold lots more fuel close to my body, and so would be highly beneficial.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Menacing Spike » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:03 am UTC

If you remove your clothes it's all awkward. "Hey flame. Look, um... I'm making concessions! I'm, uh, naked. Um, alright by you? Let's burn then?"

However, if you are clothed, that means you are at ease. Comfortable. The flame is a bro. You are past silly things like getting naked.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby alexis.a.hill » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:29 am UTC

Oh, this is just totally wonderful. The votes are going to even out, aren't they.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Kewangji » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:35 am UTC

alexis.a.hill wrote:Oh, this is just totally wonderful. The votes are going to even out, aren't they.

This is brilliant.

Also, I would wear one of those synthetic sweaters, I think. I forget their names. Fleece? I don't know. Someone once explained to me that if you're wearing one of those and are lit on fire, you are engulfed in flames pretty much immediately. I have been trying not to wear such sweaters since. It is basically like walking around coated in accelerant.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby eran_rathan » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:04 pm UTC

Kewangji wrote:
alexis.a.hill wrote:Oh, this is just totally wonderful. The votes are going to even out, aren't they.

This is brilliant.

Also, I would wear one of those synthetic sweaters, I think. I forget their names. Fleece? I don't know. Someone once explained to me that if you're wearing one of those and are lit on fire, you are engulfed in flames pretty much immediately. I have been trying not to wear such sweaters since. It is basically like walking around coated in accelerant.



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Postby Kewangji » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:18 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:Makes me think of this.

This practically screams for becoming an SCP.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Akamai » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:54 am UTC

Does a thick coat of barbecue sauce count as being naked or dressed?

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Shepherdess » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:15 am UTC

Naked. There's something just right about coming into this world naked, and leaving it naked once more.

Plus, why ruin good clothes that could be donated upon your death?

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Belial » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:26 am UTC

Man, most of them don't just cover you in fire, they also melt like plastic and fuse with your skin pretty immediately, so even if someone puts you out, you're trapped in a skintight boiling plastic shell.

Synthetics are a hell of a thing.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Shepherdess » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:35 am UTC

So all-natural cotton and homespun wool from now on?

*checks* What's the flammability of sweatpants that 90% cotton and 10% polyester? :shock:
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Kewangji » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:28 am UTC

Shepherdess wrote:So all-natural cotton and homespun wool from now on?

*checks* What's the flammability of sweatpants that 90% cotton and 10% polyester? :shock:

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby alexis.a.hill » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:04 pm UTC

Kewangji wrote:
Shepherdess wrote:So all-natural cotton and homespun wool from now on?

*checks* What's the flammability of sweatpants that 90% cotton and 10% polyester? :shock:

Only 10% death and agony!


Oh, so you'll only have 10% of a skintight boiling plastic shell then?

That's definitely an acceptable casualty.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby WibblyWobbly » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:59 pm UTC

Bonus points: soak your clothing in fuel or accelerant into which you've added some form of metal salt solution. I suggest impregnating your shirt with strontium chloride and your pants with copper sulfate, for that Christmas-y glow as you melt into oblivion.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby eran_rathan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:59 pm UTC

WibblyWobbly wrote:Bonus points: soak your clothing in fuel or accelerant into which you've added some form of metal salt solution. I suggest impregnating your shirt with strontium chloride and your pants with copper sulfate, for that Christmas-y glow as you melt into oblivion.



TIL (wrong thread, I know) that you can get a case of strontium chloride for less that $100.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby alexis.a.hill » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:04 pm UTC

WibblyWobbly wrote:Bonus points: soak your clothing in fuel or accelerant into which you've added some form of metal salt solution. I suggest impregnating your shirt with strontium chloride and your pants with copper sulfate, for that Christmas-y glow as you melt into oblivion.


It's kind of the wrong season for that, though. I recommend holding off on that plan for another eight months.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby WibblyWobbly » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:41 pm UTC

alexis.a.hill wrote:
WibblyWobbly wrote:Bonus points: soak your clothing in fuel or accelerant into which you've added some form of metal salt solution. I suggest impregnating your shirt with strontium chloride and your pants with copper sulfate, for that Christmas-y glow as you melt into oblivion.


It's kind of the wrong season for that, though. I recommend holding off on that plan for another eight months.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Ralith The Third » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:31 pm UTC

CLOTHES OBSTRUCT THE FLAME. THEY FEED BUT BEFOUL IT. TRUE ONE-NESS WITH THE FLAME COMES WITHOUT FLAGELLATING GARMENTS.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Shepherdess » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:29 pm UTC

Also, fleece is just sheep fur. There's polar fleece though, which is synthetic, and I've heard soft polyesters referred to as fleece.
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Postby WibblyWobbly » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:54 pm UTC

Ralith The Third wrote:CLOTHES OBSTRUCT THE FLAME. THEY FEED BUT BEFOUL IT. TRUE ONE-NESS WITH THE FLAME COMES WITHOUT FLAGELLATING GARMENTS.

I DON'T WANT THE FLAME TO SEE MY NAUGHTY BITS BEFORE WE'RE MARRIED. IT'S NOT RIGHT, I TELL YOU.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Belial » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:55 am UTC

Shepherdess wrote:So all-natural cotton and homespun wool from now on?


That's basically the rule firespinners follow. And they are pretty good at not dying upon accidentally being set on fire.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Magnanimous » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:47 am UTC

I would pull a Daenerys Targaryen: wear clothes into the fire and have them burn off.

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Postby Dr. Diaphanous » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:00 am UTC

Magnanimous wrote:I would pull a Daenerys Targaryen: wear clothes into the fire and have them burn off.


Why is this not obvious?

Also, the more you are wearing, the longer the fire will last, both from the clothes being fuel, and their ability to soak up other fuels.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby DSenette » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:05 pm UTC

clothed, but clothed in a 70's polyester leisure suit because polyester and fire make for horrific results.

as to your friend's contention that he wouldn't want to die without clothes on.....well that's stupid
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Postby cplns » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:56 pm UTC

Naked and free: the way of the flame. Nothing will stand in the way of me and my oneness.

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby WibblyWobbly » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:22 pm UTC

DSenette wrote:clothed, but clothed in a 70's polyester leisure suit because polyester and fire make for horrific results.

as to your friend's contention that he wouldn't want to die without clothes on.....well that's stupid

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Weeks » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:25 pm UTC

If I wanted to become one with the flame, why would I have clothes on? The fire isn't wearing any clothes.
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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby Mute Walrus » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:03 am UTC

YOU! Alexis Hill, the great one. It is I the walrus!

His reason is that he isn't going to die without clothes on.

Lies and slander I say. All drama aside, that's not my reason, that is the human's reason. I would be clothed for many reasons. Among these are the fact that I am a civilized being. Another reason is that my clothes also deserve the right to become one with the flame.

In fact everyone should become one with the flame. I demand a flame-throwing device.

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Postby Weeks » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:21 am UTC

Goo goo g'joob?
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Postby Mute Walrus » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:25 am UTC

Weeks wrote:Goo goo g'joob?

Beatles reference, I take it?

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Re: Nudity and Lighting Yourself on Fire

Postby poxic » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:32 am UTC

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