Those are all actual examples where you actually seem to me to be saying that you're touching girls for three seconds, and they treat you like a rapist. And I do want to note that you're the only one ON THESE BOARDS who called you that.
No! they are examples of the girl thinking I am a rapist BEFORE I touch her. Read what you cited!
Pro tip, Pi: Read your methods. Then read Gordon's. Compare. I support his a lot more. Perhaps you should consider this.
I did respond to the paragraph you had here. I said its a good method I use it alot too, though I am talking now about the other method I also use.
The girls that treat us as pedophiles, are girls that 80% of the club, including the girls are bitching about.
Even if your percentages are accurate, that really doesn't matter. Who gets to lay hands on me is not up for a vote. These girls can only give permission for themselves. I don't care if 100% (all six?) of the girls you asked told you it was OK to grab me. When it's my hips, my vote is the only one that counts.
Thats the problem though. A HUGE number of girls and guys like random groping. They like it in this way. WHY should they stop because the 20% won't go to clubs they like?
MOST GIRLS, ANYWHERE, DO NOT ENJOY HAVING TO PUSH AWAY GUYS WITH NO CLASS.
Who defines what class is? Those girls there seem to think that walking over and talking to them, is very dorky.
Also, if verbal communication is so hard, nod, smile, hold out your hand. That would be dead sexy, seeing something so respectful in places on the shadier end of the spectrum.
I do this sometimes, it works quite well. Other times such as a holoween kegger party, this is what the 17th century guy would do.
His reply was "Smile and a nod" just as Hammer suggested. He stressed the eye contact as being the most important part. When I described Pi's method he actually looked astonished. I will repeat his response verbatim: "That guy is a fucking cunt who doesn't know what he's on about." (Apologies for the language, my brother lacks meeker expression).
So he didn't know about the method? I don't accept that he knows what I am talking about then. I am not the single person who does this, maybe the single on xkcd, but not the single in Toronto.
-Let's, for the sake of argument, say that 20% of girls in these clubs thing you're scum and the other 80% want nothing more than your junk on their backsides. You're saying two things. First, that the 20% should stay away if they don't want to get fondled. That makes you an asshole. Second, you're saying that you're willing to take the chance that the girl will feel violated -- repeatedly, since you condone this behavior in general -- because it works for you. That makes you scum.
Say there is a fight after school. In the middle of the fight one of the kids punches the other in the face. Then he files physical assault because he didn't know that punching in the face was allowed. You know what? That kid is an asshole not the one that punched.
There is very little of said grinding going on between random people. It is among people who came together or who know one another. Have I seen the, "I'm going to come up behind you and grind you," behavior? Yes. They're usually people no longer in college (or people who just never attended and think college girls are easy) or the scummiest of scummy frat boys. I have went with my female friends many times and been asked to keep said guys away from them because they are unable to do so themselves. Chase one away, and five minutes later another thinks he has a better chance. Or the first one is back, being pushy.
If I can pull of like 6 girls in a night, these girls ARE easy. Thats not a bad thing, they just want groping as much as I do. If you are claiming I am using them and them not me, you are bieng sexist.
You are perfectly free to keep doing what you're doing. But if you say that the girls have no right to complain when they get molested, then I don't want to read a single word from you when some girl grabs, twists, and pulls your balls, when you get thrown out of a club because of complaints, or when a protective friend/boyfriend takes your ass to the curb.
I am not physically assualting them. It ISN"T sexual assualt. If it was there would be ALOT of guys in jail.
OK seriously last post.
Everyone here has one problem that they can't seem to get over.
There *are* girls out there, that like bieng touched by strangers. They don't call it sexual assualt, they call it fun. The clubs I go to, these girls are the *vast* majority. This is also made quite known by anyone who has been there once.
There is a culture of people who don't think its wrong to treat each other's bodies as objects. Thats why they attend in a certain building. The rules are implicit.
This isn't wrong!
Many people don't like the above, so they then suddenly become feminists that say the girls are bieng used/sexually assualted.
I hate the fact that just because people on xkcd can't relate to something, they are also unable to understand it. I was hoping the intelligence level would be able to cover the gap.
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