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Do you have nerdy pet peeves?

Yes, lots
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Postby Shro » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:01 pm UTC

Alisto wrote:
Insignificant Deification wrote:Copious amounts of acronyms.


My mom, sister, aunt, and cousin are all nurses. So are my mom's friends, and my sister's boyfriend is an EMT. Every time you get a few of them in the same room, it's like listening to someone with both dyslexia and Tourette's say their ABC's.



HA at that analogy! That was amazing.

I know exactly what this is like. Acronyms that aren't technical jargon however...
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Postby zenten » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:16 pm UTC

People who say "Linux isn't ready for the desktop", when what they really mean is that Gimp doesn't have a specific function that they occasionally use in Photoshop.

man pages for popular programs that don't actually contain anything.

Being faced with a situation where I want to put a case sensitive term at the beginning of a sentence.

Arguing that someone said something incorrectly just because they didn't use a physics/some other scientific area definition. "Man I'm tired, I wish I had more energy", "Your mass is the same it was yesterday."

People who quote the Forge as an authoritative source in roleplaying game discussions.

People who confuse popular with good, in either direction.

People who come up with a statement, and then people point out flaws in the statement, but the person refuses to admit they're wrong and instead redefines every word in the statement to non-standard, never before used definitions.

People thinking that their connection speed to a heavily used set of servers will give an upper bound on their current connection speed.

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Postby Belial » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:33 pm UTC

Arguing that someone said something incorrectly just because they didn't use a physics/some other scientific area definition. "Man I'm tired, I wish I had more energy", "Your mass is the same it was yesterday."


Word.

People who quote the Forge as an authoritative source in roleplaying game discussions.


I have no idea what the Forge is, but I want to repeat this pet peeve with MythDrannor.net and D&D discussions.
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Postby theplanman » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:21 pm UTC

Redundancy-
People who say ATM machie (Automatic Teller Machine Machine?)
or when referring to rotations, rpms (rpm= rotations per minute)
Also CPU unit, but that happens less nowadays

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Postby Cheese » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:51 pm UTC

theplanman wrote:Redundancy-
People who say ATM machie (Automatic Teller Machine Machine?)
or when referring to rotations, rpms (rpm= rotations per minute)
Also CPU unit, but that happens less nowadays

This is really annoying for me. Such as:

PIN code (Personal Identification Number code)
PUC code (Personal Unblocking Code code)
There are others too.

Also, people saying that PCs (as in personal computers, not Basically Decent whatever) are such because they run windows, and that a mac is for some reason not a personal computer.
All other nerdy computer peeves in this thread

Ah, the madly Basically Decent (I don't mind being fair to all 3 genders, different races and ways of life and so on, but making 'history' 'herstory' or even 'theirstory' is taking it too far).
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Postby sebbeklang » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:10 pm UTC

theplanman wrote:Redundancy-
People who say ATM machie (Automatic Teller Machine Machine?)
or when referring to rotations, rpms (rpm= rotations per minute)
Also CPU unit, but that happens less nowadays

we have a lot of those that are hidden in translation, where you dont think about it as much.
cd and dvd discs
lcd displays
ram memory

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Postby Rippy » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:11 pm UTC

yeah, I hear "PIN Number" all the time. And you can't correct them without sounding like a jackass. Same thing as when you ask someone to shut off the engine at a long light, or go out of their way to put a bottle in a recycling bin: you always get that "wow it's not a big deal" type reaction. And you can't explain that every bit counts without people thinking you're a jackass even more. Gah. Anyway.

another peeve I just remembered now is when people don't close the cookie bag properly. You know the kinds of cookies, like oreos, that come in the the boxes with those 2 little tabs at the opening to keep it closed? The top is supposed to be folded as far as it can go, then the tabs are tucked into the "corners" of the box. Same way as it looks when you first buy it. You do NOT just fold the top flap down once or twice, then fold the tabs over! THAT IS NOT OPTIMAL FRESHNESS!

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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Sprocket » Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:52 pm UTC

I am all powerful necromancer!

I have seen a lot less of this kind of behavior in my life lately. It makes me happy. It could be a matter of maturity. As my friends get older they're less dickish and purist and feeling the need to throw around their geek cock, and make sure everyone knows how much more correct they are than everyone else, and maybe it's a bit of selection bias, or a combination. Those who were willing to mature with everyone else got to stay around, those who didn't were shunned? IDK.

Has anyone else had this experience? Is it just less cool around geek crowds to be all "alpha geek" about crap all the time? Or is it maturity?

NPP:
I was thrilled the other day when on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, they were making jokes about the senate discussing "The Nuclear Option" and someone saying "I think this is REAL PROGRESS, I mean on the one hand, the senate is talking about enacting the Nuclear Option, but on the other hand, no on is talking about the Nu-cular option."
I haven't heard anyone annoyingly defending "nu-cular" as an acceptable 'regional' pronunciation lately, and that, is a good thing.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby addams » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:23 pm UTC

Sprocket wrote:I am all powerful necromancer!

I have seen a lot less of this kind of behavior in my life lately. It makes me happy. It could be a matter of maturity. As my friends get older they're less dickish and purist and feeling the need to throw around their geek cock, and make sure everyone knows how much more correct they are than everyone else, and maybe it's a bit of selection bias, or a combination. Those who were willing to mature with everyone else got to stay around, those who didn't were shunned? IDK.

Has anyone else had this experience? Is it just less cool around geek crowds to be all "alpha geek" about crap all the time? Or is it maturity?

NPP:
I was thrilled the other day when on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, they were making jokes about the senate discussing "The Nuclear Option" and someone saying "I think this is REAL PROGRESS, I mean on the one hand, the senate is talking about enacting the Nuclear Option, but on the other hand, no on is talking about the Nu-cular option."
I haven't heard anyone annoyingly defending "nu-cular" as an acceptable 'regional' pronunciation lately, and that, is a good thing.

What an interesting Post.

The highly intelligent? The geek?
The regular Boys and Girls?

Is it a Normal and Natural part of growing up that some people are never challenged to do?
The every bit makes a difference crowd. And; The wtf the Universe is a Big Place crowd.

The Nuclear Option? What do you think That is?
I think it is not possible.

We were able to end life on this Planet. Well...Human life.
It is not possible for one person that is all in a Snit about something to Push The Button.

Sure we can Blow up Cities and Islands and stuff.
We can Blow the shit out of a Mountain that has no intention of Blowing.

The Cold War was a highly imaginative time.
Humans are imaginative.

I don't have Nerdy Pet Peeves.
My Pet Peeves are Personal.

What about Shoes in the House?
It that a Pet Peeve?

Do you wear shoes in the House?
I had a No Shoes Upstairs Rule.

If you want to do inside house the things and go back outside, hang out down stairs.
If you want to Take Off Your Boots and Relax, go upstairs.

That Rule was a good Rule.
I did not mind people noticing that I broke the Rule.

I made the Rule. I understand the Rule.
I know my slippers and your hiking boots are not equal.

Both are shoes.
They do not carry the same amount of mud they do not impact the carpet in the same way.

Nagging! I Hate Nagging!
I am not exactly sure what it is.

Nagging is like Porn.
I sometimes know it when I see and hear it.

Sometimes it is like a fucking unknown language.
I think, I don't like it. What is it? Nagging?
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Tyndmyr » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:51 pm UTC

People who run servers that have no idea how to run servers. Just had to deal with someone that didn't know how to configure backups, so he chose large numbers. These were not offsite backups. Eventually, the hard drive filled, and everything stopped working. One would think he would then restore from backup, but no...time to call it quits on that and start anew. I figured out how to restore everything in under an hour of work, so he can't have struggled with it for all that long, despite his complaining. But now it appears that an entirely working copy is just too much trouble compared to ignoring it.

Seriously, this stuff is *not* that hard. Google has all your answers.

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Postby Djehutynakht » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:12 am UTC

Cheese wrote:Also, people saying that PCs are such because they run windows, and that a mac is for some reason not a personal computer.


In all fairness, this is at least partially Apple's fault for perpetuating this. They like brand themselves as "different" and "unique".

*cue commercial*

Mac Guy: HI! I'M A MAC!

PC Guy: *grunt* And I'm *cough*cough*hack*wheeze*cough* a PC *cough*.

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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby loveisdead » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:08 am UTC

Any article, news segment, or any form of media that declares "scientists" have proven/shown something.

And the shockingly low amount of people who actually understand the difference between correlation and causation.

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Postby addams » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:31 am UTC

I found one.

"An active volcano is one that still erupts and is usually found at the edges of the earth's plates, where new crust is formed, and old crust is destroyed.
A dormant volcano is one that has erupted in historical times but is now quiet.
An extinct volcano is that which has not erupted in historical times and is considered unlikely to erupt again, because the volcano no longer has a lava supply."

The difference does not mean much to others.
I think it is important and interesting.

I heard a man tell his wife with great authority, "This is an extinct Volcano."
He was looking at boiling mud, at the time.

He got the Volcano part right.
It matters to me.

That mountain is alive and well and a little on the dangerous side.
It is a strange kind of fun to know she could Blow.

I know it is fucking unlikely.
I did not say anything to the man.

It does not matter.
But; He called it extinct and it is Not extinct.

It is Active!
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Brandesianisme » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:35 am UTC

Historical inaccuracy

It doesn't matter if I'm actually knowledgable on the topic or not; If it doesn't fit my vision of what history looked like, it makes me mad

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Postby loveisdead » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:50 pm UTC

Brandesianisme wrote:Historical inaccuracy

It doesn't matter if I'm actually knowledgable on the topic or not; If it doesn't fit my vision of what history looked like, it makes me mad


What happens in the event that your vision of history is incorrect?

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Postby addams » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:18 pm UTC

loveisdead wrote:
Brandesianisme wrote:Historical inaccuracy

It doesn't matter if I'm actually knowledgable on the topic or not; If it doesn't fit my vision of what history looked like, it makes me mad


What happens in the event that your vision of history is incorrect?

1. Fingers in ears and a loud, "I can't Hear You!"
2. Internet links of sources that confirm The Accuracy of My View.
3. Books that confirm My View.
4. Photos of Jesus.
What more do you want?

Or; Getting more angry works.
Who writes history?

The same guy that wins the war?
!Agression wins the Day! Every Day!

Get angry; Stay angry.
It's easy.

History is so difficult.
Herstory is easier.

Anger does not get us very far in Hersory.
What was she doing, while he was making History?
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Lazar » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:10 pm UTC

I have three different pet peeves about human evolutionary history. In order of decreasing pettiness:

1. When people say "Homo sapien". Sapiens is already a singular. The plural, if there were one, would be Homines sapientes, but scientific species names are invariant.

2. When people refer to the other species in Homo as not being humans - they'll talk about "humans and Neanderthals" doing something or other. Homo means human being! Just as Gorilla gorilla and Gorilla beringei are both gorillas, and Pongo pygmaeus and Pongo abelii are both orangutans, Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens are both humans. It's quite common for "simple" animal names to refer to genera rather than species.

3. When people (typically in arguments with Creatonists) say, "We're not descended from apes and monkeys; we just share a common ancestor with them." This represents serious misconceptions about our evolutionary history. Not only do we descend from apes and monkeys by any coherent definition of those terms, but by some quite valid interpretations, we are apes and monkeys. The quoted statement indicates that there was an ape-monkey-human ancestor, which split into an ape-monkey ancestor and a human-only ancestor, which isn't even remotely similar to what happened. In reality, "ape" and "monkey" are paraphyletic taxa: each of them includes all but one of multiple branches which descend from a common ancestor. These groups run contrary to cladistics, the grouping of organisms based on their genetic lineage. In some cases there's a morphological reason for using a paraphyletic classification, but in other cases it's more a matter of tradition. There was nothing that split into humans and all apes: we descend from a human-chimpanzee common ancestor which had already split from the gorilla, orangutan and gibbon lineages, the other apes. And there was nothing that split into apes and all monkeys: apes descend from a common ancestor of apes and Old World monkeys, which itself was descended from a common ancestor of Old World monkeys (plus apes) and New World monkeys. In other words, a chimp is more closely related to us than he is to a gorilla, and a macaque is more closely related to us than he is to a howler monkey. Only an irrationally presentist and human-centric view would claim that all the extant branches of apes and monkeys must be referred to as not-apes and not-monkeys until the moment that the genus Homo blinked into existence, just so we can avoid the shame of being descended from such things. A biblical literalist will be shocked at the imputation that we're related to them in any way, so why bother?
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Postby addams » Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:35 am UTC

Keep bothering, anyway.
Some of us are going to 'get it'.

(maybe.)
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Postby Tomlidich the second » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:01 pm UTC

People who say they are nerds/geeks because they like "insert mass marketed mainstream television show here"

I know there is much debate on the definition of those two markers, but most people who toss them around never had to live with the reality of being bullied, outcast, etc. because of a love for science, technology, and the way things work.
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Postby Aiwendil » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:26 am UTC

When people (typically in arguments with Creatonists) say, "We're not descended from apes and monkeys; we just share a common ancestor with them."


This has always bothered me too. We are apes, and we're descended from other apes. And to refuse to call the common ancestor of old world monkeys and new world monkeys a monkey just seems silly to me; but of course, if we call that a monkey, we ought to call its descendant, the common ancestor of apes and old world monkeys, a monkey as well.

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Postby addams » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:35 am UTC

Aiwendil wrote:
When people (typically in arguments with Creatonists) say, "We're not descended from apes and monkeys; we just share a common ancestor with them."


This has always bothered me too. We are apes, and we're descended from other apes. And to refuse to call the common ancestor of old world monkeys and new world monkeys a monkey just seems silly to me; but of course, if we call that a monkey, we ought to call its descendant, the common ancestor of apes and old world monkeys, a monkey as well.

ok.
This little group of peeved nerds agree.
This creature is a Monkey.

It is a Strange Monkey.
Thank God most humans learn to wear clothes.

To be fair, Human is the only Monkey I have ever worked with.
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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:26 pm UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:People who say they are nerds/geeks because they like "insert mass marketed mainstream television show here"

I know there is much debate on the definition of those two markers, but most people who toss them around never had to live with the reality of being bullied, outcast, etc. because of a love for science, technology, and the way things work.


As someone who never really found common ground or "My People" until I was an adult and on the internet....

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, buddy.

The nerdishness/geekiness of someone has fuck all to do with how they were treated as a child.

But more to the point, let's say they didn't give a shit about sci-fi or roleplaying or chemistry or opera music or whatever the fuck it is you're yammering about growing up, and at this point their only exposure to that sort of world so far is the latest Marvel movies (Your Iron Mans, your Thors, your Avengers, didn't quite understand why Captain America was set during WWII) and they're just now developing an interest...

Why the fuck would you do shit to drive that person away?

Nerdom should be a giant welcoming hug, not a "You wonder why Sheldon wears a shirt from that terrible Ryan Reynolds movie? GTFO"

Everyone has to start somewhere, and even in the era of Wikipedia, where a person can become a semi-expert on Doctor Who by reading some pages for two hours, reacting with hostility is not going to win you any friends, favors or good will.

At best, whoever it is you're railing against will continue to call themselves a geek or nerd and start calling you something worse. At worst, you just drove someone away from something they were starting to enjoy.

And that second thing's a really, really shitty thing to do.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm UTC

I'd been trying to form a post much like ST, but he said it much better than I could have. So, yeah, what he said.
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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:31 pm UTC

Eh, I know it's written from more of a sci-fi fan standpoint than a legitimate real science standpoint, but.. whatever. Replace Doctor Who with Fibonacci sequence, the Big Bang Theory reference with something relating to the actual Big Bang, and the Marvel Movies with... fuck it, NASA references.. and it still works.

At any rate, you see someone calling themselves a geek because they like the Big Bang Theory, you don't make fun of them... you loan them your copy of I Kill Giants or We3 or something.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Tomlidich the second » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:16 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:People who say they are nerds/geeks because they like "insert mass marketed mainstream television show here"

I know there is much debate on the definition of those two markers, but most people who toss them around never had to live with the reality of being bullied, outcast, etc. because of a love for science, technology, and the way things work.


As someone who never really found common ground or "My People" until I was an adult and on the internet....

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, buddy.

The nerdishness/geekiness of someone has fuck all to do with how they were treated as a child.

But more to the point, let's say they didn't give a shit about sci-fi or roleplaying or chemistry or opera music or whatever the fuck it is you're yammering about growing up, and at this point their only exposure to that sort of world so far is the latest Marvel movies (Your Iron Mans, your Thors, your Avengers, didn't quite understand why Captain America was set during WWII) and they're just now developing an interest...

Why the fuck would you do shit to drive that person away?

Nerdom should be a giant welcoming hug, not a "You wonder why Sheldon wears a shirt from that terrible Ryan Reynolds movie? GTFO"

Everyone has to start somewhere, and even in the era of Wikipedia, where a person can become a semi-expert on Doctor Who by reading some pages for two hours, reacting with hostility is not going to win you any friends, favors or good will.

At best, whoever it is you're railing against will continue to call themselves a geek or nerd and start calling you something worse. At worst, you just drove someone away from something they were starting to enjoy.

And that second thing's a really, really shitty thing to do.


Yep, i deserve this.

never said it was a logical pet peeve, or that i actually execute it in social encounters. just is.

Actually, having more "nerds" about would be fantastic. but with the realization that 20 or even just 10 years ago, it was tossed around as an insult, and has its background as such. Im still skeptical about it as a term of endearment.

I think the real peeve to define it precisely, is those who like ONE thing "nerdy" call themselves a nerd, and then when encountering other, even more "nerdy stuff" reject it entirely, with much prejudice. Cuz rejecting other people about what they like isn't what being a nerd is about. to quote a guy, beind a nerd is about being totally honest about what you like. and thats the coolest thing ever.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 pm UTC

beind a nerd is about being totally honest about what you like. and thats the coolest thing ever.
I assume you're riffing on the Simon Pegg quote, which I understand the context in which he said it.

But the problem with that is that it basically says that Ogre is a nerd. Because he's completely honest about his love of sports, drinking beer, and beating the shit out of Nerds. (Also, Revenge of the Nerds is an awful movie in which pretty much all the Nerds deserve lengthy prison sentences. For the record)

But don't gatekeep. Don't ever gatekeep. A person likes one thing you consider nerdy and rejects other nerdy stuff. That's fucking fine. I don't know a Doctor Who from a Faulty Tower, and no one gives me shit about it. I'm in my mid 30s and I couldn't give a fuck less about Battlestar Galactica. Yeah, I read the Harry Potter books..after the seventh one came out, and I read them in something like a week and a half because they're neat.. but they were written for children and I can tear through that writing style like a wet paper bag. And I've not really cared all that much since then. I've dabbled in roleplaying, but I've mostly kept to D&D which, depending on who you ask, makes me some kind of uber nerd or a filthy casual (D&D? Real geeks play Rolemaster) And my knowledge of comic book lore is spotty at best. The first time I really even heard the name Guardians of the Galaxy was when the movie was announced.

No one's going to check my geek cred. No one will call me a poser nerd. That's never going to happen.

That I was watching Star Trek:TOS on VHS tapes my grandmother recorded off syndication in the late 80s has nothing to do with that. A lot of the fake nerd backlash is... aimed at women.

Whether or not that was your intention, you do live in a world where every time someone says something like "This con is being ruined by the fake geek" there's always an unspoken "women" following right along.

... the times when it's not spoken, that is. Because it usually is spoken. Because for whatever fucking reason, nerd shit is seen as male only, and for whatever fucking reason the worst kinds of troll have been the face of the geek.

So yeah, fuck all that. I want to live in a damn world where the high school cheerleader captain (who was also prom queen) is involved in the local LARP. I want to live in a world where a college linebacker watches Babylon 5 because that shit is good. I want to live in a world where a model follows NASA in the news because space is fucking awesome and goes to horror movie cons on the weekends. I want to live in a world where that guy gets kicked out and refused a refund.

And gatekeeping shuts that shit down.

Hell, taking it away from just being aimed at women, talking about Scooter McGee or whatever the fuck the "cool kid" name is, the guy who made fun of you or people like you for liking Star Trek or whatever who is now talking about how much he loves Iron Man movies.... so fucking what? Geekdom isn't a prison, you don't do time, being in to something longer doesn't give you any more rights to liking something than someone who discovered it yesterday.

This may come as a shock, but odds are Scooter there also had a lot of feelings of being picked on and ostracized and not belonging when he was a kid, especially a teenager. Because that's pretty much the definition of being a teenager, emotionally at least. You never feel like you belong or are doing the right thing or any of that shit. No matter how much someone looks like they're fitting in and belong, most people feel like they're faking it.

So yeah, maybe he won't quite be able to relate to Peter Parker the same way you do. So what? People enjoy shit for different reasons. No one's enjoyment of a thing takes away from your enjoyment, unless you let them take it away... and even then, they aren't doing it. You are.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:55 am UTC

If this were a different forum, I would have considered spending a few dollars to make your foruming experience slightly better for 30 days or so in appreciation of your fantastic post.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby Tomlidich the second » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:40 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:*sounds advice and good reasoning*

I'll keep this in mind. I myself know that i can be kind of an ass, and my former self was all about that gatekeeping shit. (you guys know that guy, from a long while ago.)

This fora has been, and continues to be, a place for my continued self improvement. thanks guys.
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Postby yurell » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:13 am UTC

It always makes me a little sad, seeing these years-dead threads as graveyards of people who don't post any more.

But I'm mainly posting to show my support for SecondTalon's post, since there's no 'love' button available.
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Postby SecondTalon » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:45 am UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:*sounds advice and good reasoning*

I'll keep this in mind. I myself know that i can be kind of an ass, and my former self was all about that gatekeeping shit. (you guys know that guy, from a long while ago.)

This fora has been, and continues to be, a place for my continued self improvement. thanks guys.

End the month a little better of a person than you started. Day or week seems a little unreasonable, but a month? Seems reasonably achievable.
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Postby gmalivuk » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:45 pm UTC

Brandesianisme wrote:Historical inaccuracy

It doesn't matter if I'm actually knowledgable on the topic or not; If it doesn't fit my vision of what history looked like, it makes me mad
What makes me mad is ignorant people who hide behind their incorrect notions of "historical accuracy" to defend their racist and sexist views about real history and fantasy alike.

If, for example, someone like you gets mad at depictions of Black people in medieval England or female medieval warriors (complete with non-boobcupped armor), then not only are you the one being historically inaccurate, you're also racist and sexist to boot.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby addams » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:43 am UTC

I don't understand this Thread, anymore.
Is a pet peeve like my distinction between History and Herstory?

History is the way The Great Orators tell the story.
You go right on ahead and tell us about Oroin "The Great".

Or; Fucking Constantine.
Some people really have a Woodie for That Guy.

Do you like him?
Was he dreamy and rich and powerful?

Does your boyfriend dress up and play Constantine to your Cesar?
If only those two could have known one another they way you two know each other. right?

Sexy stuff. "All those Generals and Emperors."
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Nerdy Pet Peeves?

The difference between History and Herstory.
The age old battle.

What is better at Jump starting innovation?

A. History.
The Forceful Way. Might makes Right. !War!
Traditionaly a Man's World.
Or;
B. Herstory.
The easy way. The way of Practical Magic.
Love, Joy and Peace.
!Even in the Face of More Fucking War!
Traditionally a Woman's World.

Women have had a hand in History.
Men have had a hand in Herstory.

oh. I don't understand this Thread.
Maybe I have a lot of Pet Peeves.

How would I know?
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby ObsessoMom » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:54 pm UTC

I don't think peeves need to be logical. If something annoys you, it just does, whether or not you are conscious of any racism, sexism, elitism, etc., underlying your reaction. Discussing peeves in a public forum like this may help people gain insight into why they are responding to their peeve-triggers as they are, and perhaps change those responses.

In my experience, though, attacking people and making them feel defensive tends not to be conducive to such personal epiphanies.

SecondTalon made good points about the gatekeeping response. For example, apostrophes have increasingly become a shibboleth in English. People (generally older) who view themselves as having mastered the arcane art of apostrophe usage seem to congratulate themselves on being vastly superior to those who have not.

Use "it's" instead of "its" (where "its" is called for) on a job application? OUT! Regardless of your demonstrable competence, nay brilliance, in every other area relevant to the job at hand, clearly you're an irredeemable ignoramus who wasn't paying attention when this was covered in the first grade. The gatekeeper is blind to everything except the shibboleth. Get it right or die.

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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby speising » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:04 pm UTC

i'd like to say, while i'm playing loose and fast with orthography in informal writing, i think that the care you take with a job application, or any other business related writing, is a fair indicator of your conscientiousness.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby DireKobold » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:56 pm UTC

I rent a single office in a set of executive suites, and I was talking to the landlord about the internet he provided (which had been pretty crappy recently). As part of the conversation I mentioned that another tenant had also complained. The landlord said he was trying to encourage that guy to get his own internet because he uses a ton of bandwidth. This is a guy who uses his office one or two nights a week and has a day job so I was kind of surprised by this and I asked, "Oh, really?" and the landlord said, "Yeah, look at how many computers he has in that office!"

I have many nerd pet peeves, but certainly people who fundamentally misunderstand even the most simple things about computers would have to be among the greatest of those.

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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby lgw » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:27 pm UTC

ObsessoMom wrote:I don't think peeves need to be logical. If something annoys you, it just does, whether or not you are conscious of any racism, sexism, elitism, etc., underlying your reaction. Discussing peeves in a public forum like this may help people gain insight into why they are responding to their peeve-triggers as they are, and perhaps change those responses.

In my experience, though, attacking people and making them feel defensive tends not to be conducive to such personal epiphanies.

SexyTalon made good points about the gatekeeping response. For example, apostrophes have increasingly become a shibboleth in English. People (generally older) who view themselves as having mastered the arcane art of apostrophe usage seem to congratulate themselves on being vastly superior to those who have not.

Use "it's" instead of "its" (where "its" is called for) on a job application? OUT! Regardless of your demonstrable competence, nay brilliance, in every other area relevant to the job at hand, clearly you're an irredeemable ignoramus who wasn't paying attention when this was covered in the first grade. The gatekeeper is blind to everything except the shibboleth. Get it right or die.


Funny, I have a pet peeve about people with grammar/spelling mistakes on their resume. If you can't arrange for correctness even there, please no one force me to work with you! I don't care if your personal spelling/grammar/whatever is good, since there's no requirement to write your own resume it's not even relevant, I care that you make the effort to get formal presentations correct. Some people are just sloppy about everything, and I've spent too much of my life cleaning up their code.

An unrelated peeve: it really angers me when someone from a different culture shows their intolerance of my cultural values by calling me "intolerant", especially when the opinion of mine they're objecting to is basically "we should respect the right of each adult to choose how to live his life and live with the consequences of those choices". lgw: "just live and let live"; fool: "stop being so intolerant"; lgw: my head asploded.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby addams » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:33 am UTC

lgw wrote:
ObsessoMom wrote:An unrelated peeve: it really angers me when someone from a different culture shows their intolerance of my cultural values by calling me "intolerant", especially when the opinion of mine they're objecting to is basically "we should respect the right of each adult to choose how to live his life and live with the consequences of those choices". lgw: "just live and let live"; fool: "stop being so intolerant"; lgw: my head asploded.
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"we should respect the right of each adult to choose how to live his life and live with the consequences of those choices"
ok. I might be with your other friend.
The first part of that sentence is wonderful.
"we should respect the right of each adult to choose how to live his life
Wonderful. Bravo.

The second part can seem like a very very thinly veiled threat.
and live with the consequences of those choices"

Huh? What choices?
Choose how to live? ok.
Have some AssHole tell me I, "Live with the consequences." (!)

umm. Yes. Jumping into that water was a stupid thing to do.
The consequence are he will never walk, again. Ever.

He will be living with that.
He can live well with that.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby SurgicalSteel » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:03 am UTC

I agree with addams. I apologize if I'm misreading you, lgw, but to me it reads very close to "You have a right to be gay, but you shouldn't complain when people treat you as subhuman because you have to live with the consequences of the choices you made."

I hope I'm misreading you, and if I am, I apologize again.
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Re: Nerdy Pet Peeves

Postby gmalivuk » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:00 am UTC

Dunno what the consequences are, but I got the distinctly opposite impression about homosexuality. Like, lgw says people should let gays marry who they want, and someone else (whose culture prohibits homosexuality) calls lgw intolerant for that position.
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