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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby OBrien » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:39 pm UTC

Sandry wrote:AUGH TODAY IS TOO MANY COMMAS. SOMEONE STOP ME BEFORE I PUNCTUATE AGAIN


A little late, but I hope that helps.

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Easy: Listen to The Pogues' "Fairytale of New York" then listen to another three or four Pogues tracks. Now you can safely listen to any kind of other music without shitty Christmas songs popping into your head and ruining everything!
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Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:43 pm UTC

Sandry wrote:AUGH TODAY IS TOO MANY COMMAS. SOMEONE STOP ME BEFORE I PUNCTUATE AGAIN


No need, to, hate on the Capain Kirk, speech.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Eastwinn » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:51 am UTC

Do Hindus generally find "holy cow!" to be offensive?
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby The Cat » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:50 am UTC

After an "American Dad" marathon, I now read Oregonaut posts in the voice of Stan Smith. Curse you Seth Macfarlane!

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby serhina » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:01 am UTC

podbaydoor wrote:My favorite, it's old but good, and I'm feeling nostalgic: Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg...Batmobile lost a wheel, and Joker got away.


So I'm a little late to the conversation, but this is one of my favorites too...I changed the last words to the ones I learned it with, and that also work best with my favoritest Christmas shirt ever. It usually takes people a minute to get it, but once they do they tend to agree that it's totally awesome :P

Another favorite is the version of Joy to the World where we kill Barney...never liked that purple dinosaur much :D

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby animeHrmIne » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:25 am UTC

Sometimes I wish that I found the books in English class more interesting (or that I interpreted things correctly). Seriously, Give me a two minute scene from any show I love, or a couple paragraphs from a book I've read more than once, and I could do this project without thinking.

But assign me a section of The Scarlet Letter, and all I can think is "Oh my gods, Pearl is an evil fae changeling who will suck out my soul through the pages and devour it." Seriously, all of the stuff about her being a sprite/imp/demon child freaked me the fuck out. I've read too many really old/new faery tales for that to be anything but terrifying.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:54 am UTC

I don't like how my English class has been working lately.

Let's read something somewhat confusing! Okay, now go discuss it in groups, but not just "What do you think it means" or anything like that, no, more like "Group over there: only talk about setting. Group over there: discuss the biblical allusions." [As a side point, I was in the later group, and as far as any of us could tell, there was only one real allusion. There was one other possible one that she seemed to like, but it didn't actually make any sense to the rest of the story.] Okay guys, now let's have an awkward class discussion in which you say things that don't really fit together or make much sense outside of your groups since you don't have time to fully explain your points and such. Okay, well we have 5 minutes left of class. Go write a page on what you think the theme is! Be sure to use lots of quotes!

And we've done this like 3 times already and are probably going to do it again tomorrow. It also doesn't help that I almost always disagree with the teacher on the meanings, etc. of the things we read.

Edit: Hmm, would probably go better in the rant thread, but animeHrmIne's post reminded me, so I'll leave it here.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Zohar » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:06 am UTC

I know this is going to sounds a bit trite but did you think of talking to her? Tell your teacher you don't think it's particularly productive, not in a "this is boooring" sort of way, rather in a "I think we'll get more out of it this way". At least she can explain her reasoning to you.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:39 am UTC

She doesn't seem all that approachable to me. Also, she's head of the English department and has been teaching for I don't even know how many years. I imagine a conversation amounting to "I'm not getting much out of this experience" will fall on deaf ears. This is especially so because I've had one more year of English than everyone else in the class* so she would probably say that the other students are getting something out of it (I'm unsure if that's actually true or not). Also, I actually did well on two of the three things (the last I didn't because we were given the least amount of time and I understood the work the least). So, while talking to her is the obvious (and really only) solution, I don't think it'd actually help much. Instead, I guess I'll just stick it out till winter break next Friday.

*Scheduling conflict, so I took the classes in the reverse order that everyone else does, even though technically the classes are "AP Literature" and "AP Language" and so aren't sequential, as such.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Thesh » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:11 am UTC

English class is the most useless college level course there is. Even if you get the format of the class changed, what do you think that's going to do? Give you some literary references for a science research paper?
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:18 am UTC

Four years of English in high school are required by [some group of people who I can't seem to identify], yet only two are required of math. I've yet to hear any good reason for this. And if English wasn't required, I sure as well wouldn't be taking it this year.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Moo » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:36 am UTC

We do speak a lot more English than math in the course of an average day, even if you were a mathematicion?

Terms and conditions apply, I have no opinion on the subject or idea how your school system works, it just struck me as odd to compare English (the language, not the subject) to math.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby SlyReaper » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:40 am UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Four years of English in high school are required by [some group of people who I can't seem to identify], yet only two are required of math. I've yet to hear any good reason for this. And if English wasn't required, I sure as well wouldn't be taking it this year.

Judging by some of the horrors inflicted upon comment sections of blogs and youtubes and what-have-you, I'd say MORE English lessons are needed by many. More maths won't really help, because the majority of students just switch off during maths lessons anyway. Maths is a very hard thing to make exciting to a teenager. It can be done, but it takes a very good teacher.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Alder » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:43 am UTC

I realise this was a couple of pages ago (folk post a lot when I'm asleep!) but:
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Thesh » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:43 am UTC

Moo wrote:We do speak a lot more English than math in the course of an average day, even if you were a mathematicion?


Yeah, but you are fluent in English long before you reach high school, assuming you are a native speaker. Most of what you learn after that does nothing to improve your writing or speech. Honestly, the most they should require at colleges/universities is a 3 hour a week practical writing course.

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e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Four years of English in high school are required by [some group of people who I can't seem to identify], yet only two are required of math. I've yet to hear any good reason for this. And if English wasn't required, I sure as well wouldn't be taking it this year.

Judging by some of the horrors inflicted upon comment sections of blogs and youtubes and what-have-you, I'd say MORE English lessons are needed by many. More maths won't really help, because the majority of students just switch off during maths lessons anyway. Maths is a very hard thing to make exciting to a teenager. It can be done, but it takes a very good teacher.


If 12 years of English didn't do anything for them, what do you think another semester is going to do?
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby PhoenixEnigma » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:43 am UTC

Moo wrote:We do speak a lot more English than math in the course of an average day, even if you were a mathematicion?

Terms and conditions apply, I have no opinion on the subject or idea how your school system works, it just struck me as odd to compare English (the language, not the subject) to math.
While I can't speak for education systems elsewhere, that be a better reason (and make me, personally, much happier), if English classes actually focused on the practical use of the language. Addressing the apparent shortage of basic writing and grammar skills is, IMHO, a little more useful than literary analysis.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby existential_elevator » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:56 am UTC

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Moo wrote:We do speak a lot more English than math in the course of an average day, even if you were a mathematicion?

Terms and conditions apply, I have no opinion on the subject or idea how your school system works, it just struck me as odd to compare English (the language, not the subject) to math.
While I can't speak for education systems elsewhere, that be a better reason (and make me, personally, much happier), if English classes actually focused on the practical use of the language. Addressing the apparent shortage of basic writing and grammar skills is, IMHO, a little more useful than literary analysis.

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:18 am UTC

Lots of people won't wind up using math in their everyday lives, true. But lots of people also won't wind up analyzing novels in their everyday lives either. 3 of the 4 English classes at my high school are specifically for analyzing literature. The fourth is allegedly more about the language itself, but teaches that primarily through analyzing novels, so it's not much better.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Zohar » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:28 am UTC

Guys, the point of school isn't to give you specific useful skills for real life. It's to give you a general knowledge and the ability to deal with new things in an analytic and reason-driven way. But analyzing novels you also learn to analyze news stories, relationships between people, speeches and deductive reasoning. By learning maths you are improving your ability to do quick calculations (which is a useful skill) and how to logically work your way through problems.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:35 am UTC

I agree. But why then is English apparently twice as important as math?
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Zohar » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:40 am UTC

Why do you assume that twice the hours means twice the contribution to your education? And someone decided there's some sort of order of priority, which is probably not only dictated by "what's important" but also "what do students like", "what can students do" and "what can teachers teach". I don't know why whoever it was set the classes in that particular way. Just the whole "these classes are useless" vibe (not everyone said it and not in very extremely) seemed a bit out of place.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Zamfir » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:41 am UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:I agree. But why then is English apparently twice as important as math?

Because the skills and experience needed to understand texts are vital to everyone's life, while the skills involved in mathematical manipulation are mostly valuable in specialized areas.


EDIT: to be clear, some of the skills and methods needed for maths can be useful outside of mathematics. But even then, they tend to be useful in particular areas of life. Usually areas with (relatively) clearly defined goals and relatively hard objective facts. But most of life is just too vague to approach with the exactness of mathematics.

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby podbaydoor » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:07 pm UTC

MMM: "Remember - when somebody annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and BITCH SLAP that MOTHERFUCKER."

Re: English: I think yes, desperately more emphasis needed on grammar and practical writing. However, I think literary analysis is important too - it's really valuable to be acquainted with the rich cultural heritage represented by past books and movements, at the very least so you can understand the thousands of literary allusions that pervade life, and also it can help you understand the mindset of the historical person. To put it tritely, it forces you to expand your mind.

Of course, the major problem here is that apparently the majority of English classes are taught totally incompetently.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

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podbaydoor wrote:MMM: "Remember - when somebody annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and BITCH SLAP that MOTHERFUCKER."

I don't think that can possibly be right. Off the top of my head, you'd have to use your bicep and tricep, whatever muscles exist in your forearm, and whatever muscle controls movement of the wrist. This is of course completely ignoring muscles used to move your fingers into the approriate slapping shape, and the shoulder (and possibly pectoral) muscles being worked to bear the weight of an arm which was presumably at rest prior to the slap.

podbaydoor wrote:Of course, the major problem here is that apparently the majority of English classes are taught totally incompetently.

So are the majority of maths classes.
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby Oregonaut » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:24 pm UTC

THE KANGAROOS ARE CONTROLLING MY MIND WITH THEIR TINY, TINY CHEESE FILLED PAWS!
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SlyReaper wrote:I don't think that can possibly be right. Off the top of my head, you'd have to use your bicep and tricep, whatever muscles exist in your forearm, and whatever muscle controls movement of the wrist. This is of course completely ignoring muscles used to move your fingers into the approriate slapping shape, and the shoulder (and possibly pectoral) muscles being worked to bear the weight of an arm which was presumably at rest prior to the slap..


The one I always heard was "It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face."
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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

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SlyReaper wrote:
podbaydoor wrote:MMM: "Remember - when somebody annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and BITCH SLAP that MOTHERFUCKER."

I don't think that can possibly be right. Off the top of my head, you'd have to use your bicep and tricep, whatever muscles exist in your forearm, and whatever muscle controls movement of the wrist. This is of course completely ignoring muscles used to move your fingers into the approriate slapping shape, and the shoulder (and possibly pectoral) muscles being worked to bear the weight of an arm which was presumably at rest prior to the slap.

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Oregonaut wrote:THE KANGAROOS ARE CONTROLLING MY MIND WITH THEIR TINY, TINY CHEESE FILLED PAWS!

What kind of cheese? This can mean the difference between life and death!

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Postby Oregonaut » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:40 pm UTC

IT'S THE PROVOLONE! //Falling to his knees holding the sides of his head.// They keep telling me that I need Fosters!
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Postby RoadieRich » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:45 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:MMM: "Remember - when somebody annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and BITCH SLAP that MOTHERFUCKER."

But it's not like I'm going to get much more exercise than this today...
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Postby broken_escalator » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:47 pm UTC

Don't they know fosters isn't even Australian?! Those damn, dirty kangaroos!!! The Canadians must have paid them off.

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Postby Oregonaut » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:54 pm UTC

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*snaps fingers*

We need some emergency whipped cream here, STAT.
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a principle or belief, esp. one of the main principles of a religion or philosophy : the tenets of classical liberalism.
tenant |ˈtenənt|
noun
a person who occupies land or property rented from a landlord.

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

Postby broken_escalator » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:09 pm UTC

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Re: Momentary/Meandering/Meditations (Random like the plague

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tenet |ˈtenit|
noun
a principle or belief, esp. one of the main principles of a religion or philosophy : the tenets of classical liberalism.
tenant |ˈtenənt|
noun
a person who occupies land or property rented from a landlord.


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