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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby SlyReaper » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:47 pm UTC

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Look, the link at the top is back too. So many good things happen while I sleep.
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Postby elminster » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:51 pm UTC

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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Carlington » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:18 pm UTC

I don't mean to brag, but I didn't have any problem with the last unread post button, and I don't really know what link you guys were talking about...I'm using subsilver.
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Postby Kewangji » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:48 pm UTC

Carlington (The Aussie) wrote:I don't mean to brag, but I didn't have any problem with the last unread post button, and I don't really know what link you guys were talking about...I'm using subsilver.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:50 pm UTC

o_O are posts vanishing from this thread?
I edit my posts a lot and sometimes the words wrong order words appear in sentences get messed up.

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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:03 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:o_O are posts vanishing from this thread?

Maybe? Or they are being restored? I notice the pony that was a page topper isn't a page topper anymore, it looks like it's been shifted ahead a couple posts (or back a lot). Maybe soft-deleted posts are being made visible back in the depths of time?
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Postby You, sir, name? » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:06 pm UTC

PhoenixEnigma wrote:
You, sir, name? wrote:o_O are posts vanishing from this thread?

Maybe? Or they are being restored? I notice the pony that was a page topper isn't a page topper anymore, it looks like it's been shifted ahead a couple posts (or back a lot). Maybe soft-deleted posts are being made visible back in the depths of time?


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Postby yurell » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:09 pm UTC

Maybe soft-deleted posts are being hard-deleted?
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Postby SecondTalon » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:27 pm UTC

yurell wrote:Maybe soft-deleted posts are being hard-deleted?

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Postby The Flail » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:56 am UTC

Heeyyy everyooone! I'm new! Hee hee ^-^

I'm confused. Is there some hidden meaning referring to the state of a boiled egg? Or is it perchance a mere coincidence within posts?

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Postby The Scyphozoa » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:26 am UTC

The Flail wrote:Heeyyy everyooone! I'm new! Hee hee ^-^

I'm confused. Is there some hidden meaning referring to the state of a boiled egg? Or is it perchance a mere coincidence within posts?

Boiled egg?
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Postby yurell » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:38 am UTC

I think they're referring to the 'hard-delete' and 'soft-delete'.
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Postby modularblues » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:41 am UTC

Call it a delayed reaction, but I just realized that Tom Cruise likes to play lead in movies where
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Zarq » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:34 am UTC

You just described like half of the action movies.
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Postby Carlington » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:52 am UTC

I'm not new, and I kinda have no idea what this hard/soft-delete thing is either.
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Postby Giant Speck » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:06 am UTC

Carlington (The Aussie) wrote:I'm not new, and I kinda have no idea what this hard/soft-delete thing is either.

Soft-deleted = the user deleted the post, but the post is still viewable for moderators and administrators
Hard-deleted = the post was completely deleted and cannot be viewed by anyone
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Zarq » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:32 am UTC

Giant Speck wrote:
Carlington (The Aussie) wrote:I'm not new, and I kinda have no idea what this hard/soft-delete thing is either.

Soft-deleted = the user deleted the post, but the post is still viewable for the user themselve moderators and administrators
Hard-deleted = the post was completely deleted and cannot be viewed by anyone except possibly moderators and admins


FTFY. It varies from implementation to implementation.
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Postby Giant Speck » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:39 am UTC

I'll admit my only experience with the subject is with vBulletin, and not phpBB.
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Postby Zarq » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:48 am UTC

So is mine, and there moderators had to/could delete the deleted posts, but no normal users (including the OP) couldn't see it. Unless I'm remembering very wrong.
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Postby Hawknc » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:50 am UTC

No, if it's hard-deleted we can't see it. Soft-deleted posts can be seen by the person who posted it and mods/admins.

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Postby phlip » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:17 pm UTC

Hard-delete means the post just straight-up doesn't exist any more... in stock phpBB, this is the only kind of deletion. Once it's gone, it's gone, and the post doesn't exist anywhere in the database any more.

Soft-delete is an add-on to phpBB we were running for a while which meant that posts could be "deleted", but they still existed... they could be seen by the user that posted them, and by moderators/admins. Gave the mods a little bit more flexibility re deleting things but keeping records, and helped save users who deleted their posts by accident (as soft-deleted posts could be un-deleted). However, it had a lot of glitches, especially with page counts (since posts were visible for some users and not others, the exact length of threads, and thus which page of a thread certain posts are on, could vary from one user to another, and the code didn't account for that in all cases), so in the recent upgrade it was removed. There are still some flow-on effects, but hopefully they will be cleared up over time.

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Postby The Scyphozoa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:57 pm UTC

Um, how exactly is it possible that I can access a website but I can't tracert it?
I believe the website has been the victim of a DDoS recently, and may have some kind of DDoS protection. Could that be it?
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Postby Thesh » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:58 pm UTC

The Scyphozoa wrote:Um, how exactly is it possible that I can access a website but I can't tracert it?
I believe the website has been the victim of a DDoS recently, and may have some kind of DDoS protection. Could that be it?


Because it's behind a firewall that allows HTTP but not ICMP.
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Postby Steax » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:34 am UTC

I'm interested in trying to build a "robot" with sensors, motors and what-have-you. I need it to be expandable, too, so I can add on stuff as I go. There's just one major thing I want: I want to remotely control it from my computer, and send it commands over wifi or bluetooth.

Is there some sort of tool/package for this? I'm currently doing this (while very limited and very expensive) on a Lego Mindstorms set. I have a friend who's playing with a Raspberry Pi, but I'm not sure it can actually go and power motors, accept battery power, etc.

Of course, the backup plan would be to build this thing full-size and embed an entire computer in there...

And if I do that, is there an easy way to just plug in servo motors, sensors etc to USB?
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Postby Josephine » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:41 am UTC

Typically for that sort of thing, the power doesn't come from the controller. Even for small things, it's just too much power draw, way more than electronics need. A Raspberry Pi would work but possibly overkill. Maybe look into Arduino stuff?
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Postby torontoraptor » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:23 pm UTC

Steax wrote:I'm interested in trying to build a "robot" with sensors, motors and what-have-you. I need it to be expandable, too, so I can add on stuff as I go. There's just one major thing I want: I want to remotely control it from my computer, and send it commands over wifi or bluetooth.

Is there some sort of tool/package for this? I'm currently doing this (while very limited and very expensive) on a Lego Mindstorms set. I have a friend who's playing with a Raspberry Pi, but I'm not sure it can actually go and power motors, accept battery power, etc.

Of course, the backup plan would be to build this thing full-size and embed an entire computer in there...

And if I do that, is there an easy way to just plug in servo motors, sensors etc to USB?


An arduino would be perfect to use, you can either get the module with bluetooth or wifi, or build it yourself. You'd need to have the receiver on the robot, and then use your computer as the transmitter. Depending on range, radio might actually be a better, and cheaper bet.
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Postby Magnanimous » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 pm UTC

Pro-tip to D&D players: If you need to drink a health potion but don't have enough time to get the bottle open, just eat the entire bottle. Sure the glass is going to rip up your mouth, but the potion will take care of that.

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Postby Steax » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:47 pm UTC

torontoraptor wrote:An arduino would be perfect to use, you can either get the module with bluetooth or wifi, or build it yourself. You'd need to have the receiver on the robot, and then use your computer as the transmitter. Depending on range, radio might actually be a better, and cheaper bet.


Josephine wrote:Typically for that sort of thing, the power doesn't come from the controller. Even for small things, it's just too much power draw, way more than electronics need. A Raspberry Pi would work but possibly overkill. Maybe look into Arduino stuff?


Thanks guys, I'll take a look more at the Arduino. I checked it before, but seemed more low-level, and my biggest concern was power supply. I'm also not that experienced with soldering, though this could be a great excuse to get some practice.

I was hoping for some dead-simple, connect-to-bluetooth device that would just output power/return data on demand. I wonder if that's possible with a smartphone...
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Postby Kithplana » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:54 pm UTC

Steax wrote:I'm interested in trying to build a "robot" with sensors, motors and what-have-you. I need it to be expandable, too, so I can add on stuff as I go. There's just one major thing I want: I want to remotely control it from my computer, and send it commands over wifi or bluetooth.

Is there some sort of tool/package for this? I'm currently doing this (while very limited and very expensive) on a Lego Mindstorms set. I have a friend who's playing with a Raspberry Pi, but I'm not sure it can actually go and power motors, accept battery power, etc.

Of course, the backup plan would be to build this thing full-size and embed an entire computer in there...

And if I do that, is there an easy way to just plug in servo motors, sensors etc to USB?


Based on my limited knowledge, you'll be able to power very little through the Pi. The upside is that it can accept low-powered USB peripherals, like certain USB wifi modules (Adafruit sells one that should be compatible, but a lot of them are probably too power-hungry). Pi + wifi is probably slightly cheaper than an Arduino with matching wifi module, and you get a Linux platform and more computing power. I don't know about the power consumption of Pi vs. Arduino. The Arduino is a bit more flexible in terms of inputs and outputs (the Pi doesn't have any analog IO). I've heard of people attaching an Arduino to a Pi for similar reasons.

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Postby torontoraptor » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:55 pm UTC

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torontoraptor wrote:An arduino would be perfect to use, you can either get the module with bluetooth or wifi, or build it yourself. You'd need to have the receiver on the robot, and then use your computer as the transmitter. Depending on range, radio might actually be a better, and cheaper bet.


Josephine wrote:Typically for that sort of thing, the power doesn't come from the controller. Even for small things, it's just too much power draw, way more than electronics need. A Raspberry Pi would work but possibly overkill. Maybe look into Arduino stuff?


Thanks guys, I'll take a look more at the Arduino. I checked it before, but seemed more low-level, and my biggest concern was power supply. I'm also not that experienced with soldering, though this could be a great excuse to get some practice.

I was hoping for some dead-simple, connect-to-bluetooth device that would just output power/return data on demand. I wonder if that's possible with a smartphone...


A smartphone should work. It would be quite a bit heavier though.
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Postby Josephine » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:05 am UTC

You don't need to know how to solder to use an Arduino. You can do it the breadboard way, though it won't be as shiny. If you're going to be working with motors and sensors, you're probably going to want the low level stuff. But no, you're probably not going to get anything as easy as the Mindstorms core block.
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Postby Xeio » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:25 am UTC

Magnanimous wrote:Pro-tip to D&D players: If you need to drink a health potion but don't have enough time to get the bottle open, just eat the entire bottle. Sure the glass is going to rip up your mouth, but the potion will take care of that.
Pretty sure it's a free action to drink it (unless it's not a corked bottle?). Takes a standard to get it out of the bag generally though.

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Postby Noc » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:49 am UTC

Pretty sure drinking a potion is standard action that provokes attacks of opportunity.1 Retrieving a stored item is a move action, and Pathfinder's rules at least are unclear about whether retrieving the potion from one's person is incorporated into the "drink a potion" action or not, leaving it - I'd imagine - up to individual groups' playstyle.

The illustrated method seems to be primarily a way of quaffing multiple potions at once, rather than reducing the quaff-time of a single potion - stuffing one's face and munching down on a mouthful of vials seems like a standard action at the very least. Personally, a simpler solution would seem to me to be storing a larger quantity of healing potion in a thermos or something, houseruled as a potion with multiple "doses," more than one of which may be taken in one quaffing if necessary.

1Doublechecked withPathfinder's online documentation . I believe 3.5 and earlier are similar, and can't remember how 4th Ed handles it and can't be bothered to check.
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Postby Belial » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:42 pm UTC

Noc wrote:Pathfinder's rules at least are unclear about whether retrieving the potion from one's person is incorporated into the "drink a potion" action or not, leaving it - I'd imagine - up to individual groups' playstyle.


I always assumed that health potions and the like were usually kept in a bit of leather or rope webbing on a quick release knot on your belt (since that's how they're generally pictured). I actually *have* one of these bottles, with a leather thong that loops over the belt and comes free when you tug it. If the cork is in shallowly enough, you can also thumb the cork off one-handed relatively easily. I could entirely see yanking it off your belt, thumbing off the cork, and chugging the bottle in one fluid motion. So that's how I'd rule it.

But then, I also always took issue with the rule that things like maces took the same action to "draw" as a sword or other bladed weapon. A sword is kept in a sheath, it has to be pulled all the way out, then turned around before you can bring it to bear (unless you're doing the sort of cool iajutsu stuff that the quick-draw feat was made for). A mace, however, since it's shorter and you don't have to worry about it cutting up your legs, would generally hang exactly the way I just described the potion bottle. Yank it off your belt, beat. Same goes for much shorter blades, really, like daggers and such. It just doesn't really make a ton of sense that these weapons take the same action to draw and ready as something like a sword or a longbow.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Chen » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:09 pm UTC

Belial wrote:I always assumed that health potions and the like were usually kept in a bit of leather or rope webbing on a quick release knot on your belt (since that's how they're generally pictured). I actually *have* one of these bottles, with a leather thong that loops over the belt and comes free when you tug it. If the cork is in shallowly enough, you can also thumb the cork off one-handed relatively easily. I could entirely see yanking it off your belt, thumbing off the cork, and chugging the bottle in one fluid motion. So that's how I'd rule it.


I'm pretty sure there are items and such that allow you to drink potions more quickly. Unless specified though, they're apparently just tossed in your pack along with everything else and hence the move action to retrieve and the standard to drink.

But then, I also always took issue with the rule that things like maces took the same action to "draw" as a sword or other bladed weapon. A sword is kept in a sheath, it has to be pulled all the way out, then turned around before you can bring it to bear (unless you're doing the sort of cool iajutsu stuff that the quick-draw feat was made for). A mace, however, since it's shorter and you don't have to worry about it cutting up your legs, would generally hang exactly the way I just described the potion bottle. Yank it off your belt, beat. Same goes for much shorter blades, really, like daggers and such. It just doesn't really make a ton of sense that these weapons take the same action to draw and ready as something like a sword or a longbow.


As an adventurer you'd probably want a clip or something for the mace to ensure it didn't just fall off your belt in any number of adventuring situations (climbing walls, jumping over lava, dodging fireballs etc). I'll grant I don't see why drawing a dagger is as long as drawing a greatsword, but its one of the abstractions I guess you live with. Of course I guess move action is sufficiently vague in terms of duration that it could work. I mean drawing any sword takes less time than moving 30 ft I'd imagine yet both are still move actions.


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