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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby ahammel » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:31 pm UTC

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Postby You, sir, name? » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm UTC

Angua wrote:The latest episode of Bones has the worst portrayal of medicine ever.

Almost everything they have said/done is wrong, and every justification they give for why they're doing what they're doing is ludicrous.


I think it's a mistake to confuse anything in that show for realistic. I mean, they have a frickin' Star Trek holodeck, for one.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Angua » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:23 pm UTC

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Angua wrote:The latest episode of Bones has the worst portrayal of medicine ever.

Almost everything they have said/done is wrong, and every justification they give for why they're doing what they're doing is ludicrous.


I think it's a mistake to confuse anything in that show for realistic. I mean, they have a frickin' Star Trek holodeck, for one.

I generally give them a very large benefit of the doubt. However, this just had so much wrong with it it was ridiculous!
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:31 pm UTC

The show just kind of scours science and general news for neat things and then incorporates it, somehow, crudely, into the storyline. House did the same thing, but had better writers and at least closer to accurate incorporation.

Bones lost me when they recovered evidence from a skeleton that had been dissolved in acid by using a 'Monte Carlo reconstruction'.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Роберт » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:19 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:The show just kind of scours science and general news for neat things and then incorporates it, somehow, crudely, into the storyline. House did the same thing, but had better writers and at least closer to accurate incorporation.

Bones lost me when they recovered evidence from a skeleton that had been dissolved in acid by using a 'Monte Carlo reconstruction'.

I mean, if you're going to be Sci-fi, there's a lot cooler plots available.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby ahammel » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:25 pm UTC

Izawwlgood wrote:Bones lost me when they recovered evidence from a skeleton that had been dissolved in acid by using a 'Monte Carlo reconstruction'.
My favourite bit so far is when their GC identified a bit of crushed something-or-other from a tire as "pinnate leaflets".

That's some kind of gas chromatograph if it can tell what shape the fucking leaves were before they were run over by a car. :lol:
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Adam H » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:13 pm UTC

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You, sir, name? wrote:
Angua wrote:The latest episode of Bones has the worst portrayal of medicine ever.

Almost everything they have said/done is wrong, and every justification they give for why they're doing what they're doing is ludicrous.


I think it's a mistake to confuse anything in that show for realistic. I mean, they have a frickin' Star Trek holodeck, for one.

I generally give them a very large benefit of the doubt. However, this just had so much wrong with it it was ridiculous!

I just looked up the episode summary so that in a few months when I get around to watching it, I'll vaguely remember that Angua said it was ludicrous. I expect this to increase my enjoyment of the episode at least three fold!

A while ago my med-student-wife and I watched an episode where Bones looked at a chest xray and said something like "the heart was removed!" and my wife immediately rolled her eyes and said "no, the heart is right where it should be. But that guy sure has a nasty case of pneumonia." It cracked me up. :)
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Fire Brns » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:15 pm UTC

I thought the bone scan was hilarious. I didn't know we had developed x-ray sonar.
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Postby UniqueScreenname » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:10 pm UTC

My pet peeve is when they speciate bacteria through a gram stain, or worse, a wet prep. Maybe, maybe you can get the genus, but species? Impossible.

And as far as House being more accurate, they once irradiated someone with a Staph infection because they couldn't be bothered with a blood culture. It's ludicrous.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Whelan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:18 pm UTC

Eating dory toes in bed is a terrible idea, but do as I say, not as I do.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Роберт » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:37 pm UTC

Adam H wrote:A while ago my med-student-wife and I watched an episode where Bones looked at a chest xray and said something like "the heart was removed!" and my wife immediately rolled her eyes and said "no, the heart is right where it should be. But that guy sure has a nasty case of pneumonia." It cracked me up. :)

Okay, that's funny.
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Postby ahammel » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:39 pm UTC

Oh: another good one was when they had the body that somebody had tried to dissolve in hydrofluoric acid. So they tracked it to a garage. Where they had a giant, open drum of HF in the middle of the floor.

I screamed out loud.
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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:41 pm UTC

Whelan wrote:Eating dory toes in bed is a terrible idea, but do as I say, not as I do.

I didn't think she really had toes as such...

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Postby UniqueScreenname » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:59 pm UTC

I'm watching it now, and it is painful.

"A big enough drop in eosinophils or neutrophils would ensure the virus would grow unimpeded." Actually, that would mean the lymphocytes are doing their job, since they're the virus fighters.

Monocyte-derived macrophages. They're trying to kill me.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby ahammel » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:14 pm UTC

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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby elminster » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:00 am UTC

Despite being a first gen core 2 duo system, my pc still runs almost everything at a satisfactory level. Excluding compiling, dealing with lots of chrome tabs, and a few other bits. This is mildly annoying because I can't really justify getting new bits out of necessity.

Banks really do kinda rip people off with interest rates; they're basically 0 after inflation is taken into account and lowered interest in old accounts. There's so many easy and relatively secure investments that give substantially better returns. After some recent successful investments, it just blows my mind how much banks could make with the amount they deal with. Wouldn't really want to be a trader for a bank though, seems pretty stressful.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby broken_escalator » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:15 pm UTC

I recently upgraded my core2duo system, having been stuck in the same mindset. The thing that sparked the upgrade was my PSU suddenly dieing, and recieving a larger tax return than expected. Definitely don't regret my i5, but also it's 100% luxury.

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Postby Whelan » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:42 am UTC

Just so we're clear, I did not just go and reference my lecture notes for a thread in reddit/r/asksciencefiction.
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Postby felltir » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:24 pm UTC

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Postby Magnanimous » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:01 pm UTC

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Postby SurgicalSteel » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:05 am UTC

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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby SlyReaper » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:51 pm UTC

It is commonly said that every snowflake is unique; that if you examine a snowflake, then there are no others like it.

How do they know? How many possible shapes are there for a snowflake?
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Postby The Scyphozoa » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:13 pm UTC

Well, I suppose you establish maximum dimensions a snowflake could occupy. Then you assume radial symmetry so you divide that volume into a certain slice depending on how many times the pattern repeats. Then you calculate m, the maximum number of ice molecules that could exist in that space. There there may be up to 2^m possible snowflakes, assuming no molecules other than frozen H2O can be part of the structure and that distance between individual molecules is constant. (Also assuming that ice molecules can float in fixed location in the structure, but it would be way too complicated for me to weed those out, hence the "up to".)
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Postby roband » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:14 pm UTC

I have no idea what that means, but it looks like someone just got math'd.

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Postby broken_escalator » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:18 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:It is commonly said that every snowflake is unique; that if you examine a snowflake, then there are no others like it.

How do they know? How many possible shapes are there for a snowflake?

Due to a texture error in the matrix, there are only 37 snowflake designs currently. Next update they'll expand to the full expanse of snowflakes, and also fix the glitch involving human-dolphin communication.

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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby Tomlidich the second » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:54 pm UTC

i can imagine that with the vast number of snowflakes on this planet, at least two of them have to be the same shape, it would be statistically probable for the same thing to happen at least twice if not more times in a set as large as that.
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Postby tms » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:06 pm UTC

Snowflakes are also huge. Denied.
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Postby SlyReaper » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:08 pm UTC

Well not necessarily. If you shuffle a deck of 52 cards, then the order of those cards will be unique in the history of everything ever, just due to the fact that there are so many possible orderings for a deck of 52 cards.

But I don't think snowflakes work the same way. Snowflakes have to obey certain physical and chemical laws; it's not all down to random chance like a deck of cards is. They're basically crystals made of H2O. I don't have the informations of knowledges to know exactly how many possible configurations there are, but I'd be interested to find out.
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Postby Diemo » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:18 pm UTC

I forget exactly how it works but it is because snowflakes form out of a nub in the center, and the formation process is a random one. This essentially gives a unique snowflake when the flake is fully formed.

The snowflakes tend to exhibit six-fold symmetry because of the symmetry of the molecules it is made up by.

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Postby Fire Brns » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:16 pm UTC

Thanks to the sheer size and scope of existence that it is likely somewhere in the universe somewhere in time there was another snowflake exactly the same as the one you are examining except for the fact that the atoms themselves aren't the same ones (and maybe the specific heat).

And inversely (because the universe is a jerk) multiple decks of cards could be repeated dozens of times while others will never be organized between now and the heat death of the universe.
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Postby eSOANEM » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:44 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Well not necessarily. If you shuffle a deck of 52 cards, then the order of those cards will be unique in the history of everything ever, just due to the fact that there are so many possible orderings for a deck of 52 cards.

But I don't think snowflakes work the same way. Snowflakes have to obey certain physical and chemical laws; it's not all down to random chance like a deck of cards is. They're basically crystals made of H2O. I don't have the informations of knowledges to know exactly how many possible configurations there are, but I'd be interested to find out.


Snowflakes do have substantial restrictions placed on their configurations due to being made from water however snowflakes are absolutely enormous and the effect from size is easily going to dominate that due to the restrictions.
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Re: unwashed dishes and toilet paper tubes

Postby yurell » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:50 am UTC

How different do snowflakes have to be to be considered different? Is moving a single molecule enough? Or is this a 'there doesn't exist n grains of sand such that n grains of sand is a pile and n-1 is not' thing?
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Postby Menacing Spike » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:52 am UTC

yurell wrote:How different do snowflakes have to be to be considered different? Is moving a single molecule enough? Or is this a 'there doesn't exist n grains of sand such that n grains of sand is a pile and n-1 is not' thing?


I'm rusty as shit on quantuum mechanics, but aren't atoms defined by functions? How would you compare that?

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Postby yurell » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:03 am UTC

I don't see why that's a problem. We still have means of ascribing something comparable to position to a wave, and if that's not acceptable we could just replace a hydrogen with a deuterium, blast out an oxygen atom or something similar; the point is 'what degree of difference is required to make two snowflakes different'.
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Postby Menacing Spike » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:42 am UTC

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Postby addams » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:25 pm UTC

Diemo wrote:I forget exactly how it works but it is because snowflakes form out of a nub in the center, and the formation process is a random one. This essentially gives a unique snowflake when the flake is fully formed.

The snowflakes tend to exhibit six-fold symmetry because of the symmetry of the molecules it is made up by.

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The Rod shaped ones branch like quartz, sometimes.

Snowflakes are like spiders. One at a time, on a screen, underglass=Fun.
Snowflakes are like spiders. Too many of them in one place causes them to lose their individual charm.

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