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Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn. (blown away from News & Articles)

Postby Ginger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:47 pm UTC

Internet pornography degrades and objectifies women and girls, traffics teen girls, abuses adult women AND SENDS THEM TO THE HOSPITAL. Routinely. And it can exacerbate addictions in sex addicts because they have warped views of sex to begin with... however I'm sure... some people, not me. Use it responsibly? Maybe? Don't know. :)
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:58 am UTC

Do you have citation that, other than child porn, internet porn sex trafficking is even a thing?

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:02 am UTC

Look at ANY pornography website and they have a, "Teen Girls" section, like... if they real teens? That be trafficking 'cause no teens wanna be in pornography movies. Especially if they beneath ages of consent.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:50 am UTC

You do realize that...

1) The age of consent is 18, and 18 and 19 year olds are teenagers, and
2) In the porn industry, everyone's a teenager until age 29,
right?

So again, citation needed.

Because according to you, human traffickers are making videos of trafficked girls and drawing attention to themselves, in an industry where the value of the product keeps going down year after year, rather than you know, just forcing the girls into the regular kind of sex work which attracts less attention and still pays the same.
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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:52 am UTC

I don't approve of ANY teens in the porn industry... and they can SAY their actresses are legal age. It didn't stop, for example re: Mila Kunis lying that she eighteen when she was FOURTEEN to get on a TV show for example. Same deals in porn: Lies about their ages, misrepresent themselves to get in the doors of the industry and make more monies. SO: I fully believe there are unwilling, MINORS, being TRAFFICKED in the porn industry. Okay, hold on lemme find you one dude....

A step-by-step for how, TEENS, get tricked into the porn industry, which is TRAFFICKING MINORS.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:56 am UTC

So... Mila Kunis was trafficked?

And the best cite you could come up with was an anti-porn group based in Utah?

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Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:59 am UTC

I look at it that way kinda... I mean she wanted to do it so? I guess technically not? YET: It proves that there be lying in acting jobs, young women lying to get into the doors of the industry and make blood monies they probably gonna wish they had never made. Unwilling minors ARE in the porn industry. Men just turn blind eyes to it b/c porn gets them off. Even I turn a blind eye to it b/c... porn is a needed sexual release but. It needs heavy, heavy reforms... and we are derailing the public servants' faces covering thread right meow. :(

Hey, it proves tricking goes on, you just ask for a cite you didn't specify WHERE IT HAD to come from. It gives detailed instructions on how ppls get tricked, teen girls, into the porn industry. Proving my points and winning the debates forever and ever. <3 Here's another one.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:05 am UTC

So now the best you could come up with is stolen pictures? It's a better website, but I really think you are reaching.

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:10 am UTC

UM. Her likeness has been used in porn, maybe not her body, but... you REALLY wanna have me go through websites to find where, a teen girl was, explicitly r**ed over and over or something? STEALING A WOMAN'S FACE TO USE IN PORN IS WRONG. And she might as well have been ra**d, she UNWILLINGLY had her face stolen and used as "jail bait" porn. It's degrees here: Some women get their faces used via pics online, some women get r**ed... so. You can choose to believe porn is perfect if you wanna. I may even compulsively search for that cite you wanna see re: girls getting violently ra**d by the porn industry. Just you know, you don't wanna believe what gets you off could ever be bad, so you are being a flaming blind eyes turner right meow. </3 No love for you, CorruptUser. THERE ARE unwilling teen girls in the pornography industry and THAT is pederasty and THAT IS WRONG. OKAY HERE YOU go love you~ <3 In search it said pics were posted online and I can't seem to find that in the article? Never mind I see it now, so like, that guy may not be an Official Pornographer but. He STILL ra**d a girl and posted pics online for Everyone to See.

And yo we being WAY off topic... if you wanna... I could start a thread re: articles about pornography addictions, abuses, and what warped, twisted ra--I mean porn does to societies like ours? :)
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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:15 pm UTC

Well, I am legit sorries I can't look at articles re: porn rape, regular rape... it skeeves me out like a pervy girl like looking at... Internet porn. AND Any porn online is Internet porn, so that point about me moving the goals, is wrong? And some ppls DO argue prostitutes deserve to be r***d. SO. And... I could look for cites again and I am tempted to but... I KNOW there are unwilling teen girls in pornography. I know it for a fact. They audition skinny teen girls for schoolgirls fetishes shoots ALL THE TIME, injure them, give them diseases with the dirty men they force to f**k, and... more. I KNOW there are teen girls being used for sex in pornography for a fact even if all I have is anecdotes.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:29 pm UTC

Spoiler:
P1: Computer games are slavery!
P2: Umm, what?
P1: Many jobs are done by slaves, and computer games require people working. Ergo, slavery!
P2: Citation needed that computer game industry itself involves slavery.
P1: Here's a citation that cocao farmers use slave labor!
P2: No one denies slavery exists, but can you show me any citation that it's in the computer game industry?
P1: Lol ok here is article about how game companies low about their content and release crappy games, or have disputes with publishers.
P2: Yes there are terrible things, but show me credible citation for slavery in computer games.
P1: why you no care about other stuff?
P2: SLAVERY. COMPUTER GAMES. You claimed it, show me proof.


That's what this conversation sounds like.

So again.

You claimed sex trafficking is common in internet porn. CREDIBLE CITATION NEEDED. Not a citation about human trafficking in cocoa plantations. Not something from some fringe anti-porn website based in Utah. Not something about child porn which everyone already agrees is wrong as is already illegal.

Human trafficking.
In regular, legal porn.
Cite it or shut it.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby sardia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:06 pm UTC

Patrick, the author, said that porn is advertising for sex trafficking. He also mentions that porn is sex trafficking, which I read that as a hyperbole because he's a hardliner about no porn.
There's a lot of harm from porn, but it's mostly indirect stuff, like how minorities get worse (more brutalized) roles and less pay. You should dig up a documentary on what happens to amateur (the big craze) porn stars. I saw one, it's sad and ripe for abuse.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby natraj » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:11 pm UTC

so your "sources" are an opinion piece that posits that porn increases the demand for sex and therefore, obv, increases sex trafficking (no actual proof of this much less proof of increase in trafficked teens due to porn much less increase in trafficked teens in porn itself) and then a piece by catherine "sex work is all inherently trafficking" mckinnon? gotcha.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:37 pm UTC

I wouldn't mind more "ethical" porn, where simulated crimes, deception, extortion and incest are illegal. Friggin step sister porn...

But back on topic. Is a face covering ban actually going to help integrate Muslims in Quebec, or just isolate them further?

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby orthogon » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:55 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:I wouldn't mind more "ethical" porn, where simulated crimes, deception, extortion and incest are illegal.

How about a kind of "fairtrade" scheme?
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:28 pm UTC

Old joke.

So a man walks into a brothel. He approaches the pimp, and asked "is this a union shop", "no, it's not", "So how much do the girls get?", " the girls get $20 while the house gets $180". Infuriated, he left.

He went next door, "is this a union shop?", "why yes it is", "how much do the girls get?" "The house gets $20 in dues while the girl gets $180", "that's great, I'll take the buxom blonde over there", "fantastic choice sir, but *points at a toothless old woman* Olga over here has seniority"



Problem with fair trade free range organic porn, is that porn stars are not interchangeable. The consumer doesn't want to watch two (or more) people have sex, they generally want to watch a person they find attractive have sex. If more consumers find women more attractive than men, that drives up the value of women in porn. If fewer women are willing to go into porn, again more valuable. If people prefer white women over black women, same thing, and if white women are less willing to go into porn, you get the idea. Fair? Not Fair? Irrelevant.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby Mutex » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:44 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Old joke.

So a man walks into a brothel. He approaches the pimp, and asked "is this a union shop", "no, it's not", "So how much do the girls get?", " the girls get $20 while the house gets $180". Infuriated, he left.

He went next door, "is this a union shop?", "why yes it is", "how much do the girls get?" "The house gets $20 in dues while the girl gets $180", "that's great, I'll take the buxom blonde over there", "fantastic choice sir, but *points at a toothless old woman* Olga over here has seniority"



Problem with fair trade free range organic porn, is that porn stars are not interchangeable. The consumer doesn't want to watch two (or more) people have sex, they generally want to watch a person they find attractive have sex. If more consumers find women more attractive than men, that drives up the value of women in porn. If fewer women are willing to go into porn, again more valuable. If people prefer white women over black women, same thing, and if white women are less willing to go into porn, you get the idea. Fair? Not Fair? Irrelevant.

The joke doesn't make sense, why would the more desirable sex-workers be working at the place they get paid $20 rather than next door?

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:49 pm UTC

Jokes are like frogs; they die when dissected. But if we are deconstructing the joke, the attractive sex workers went back to the abusive brothel since the union run brothel wasn't giving them any work.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby Thesh » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:51 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:The joke doesn't make sense, why would the more desirable sex-workers be working at the place they get paid $20 rather than next door?

Because unions are the enemy of freedom.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby Mutex » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:44 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Jokes are like frogs; they die when dissected. But if we are deconstructing the joke, the attractive sex workers went back to the abusive brothel since the union run brothel wasn't giving them any work.

So the joke is making the point that companies with unionised employees get less business or something? Even if the price is the same? Like, the employees getting a bigger share of the profit means they create a less desirable product?

Because if so that sounds like straight up propaganda to keep the proles happy.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:21 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:Jokes are like frogs; they die when dissected. But if we are deconstructing the joke, the attractive sex workers went back to the abusive brothel since the union run brothel wasn't giving them any work.

So the joke is making the point that companies with unionised employees get less business or something? Even if the price is the same? Like, the employees getting a bigger share of the profit means they create a less desirable product?

Because if so that sounds like straight up propaganda to keep the proles happy.



The actual joke is that the union practice of giving more work to the members with seniority isn't something that works in all industries. No one is arguing that the first brothel is somehow not a horribly abusive sack of shit. It isn't anti-union, and it certainly isn't pro-non-union. Really doesn't need to be more complicated than that.

I mean, I have another classic joke. Nancy Reagan is touring a hospital. Along the tour, she sees a patient jacking off. "Oh my word, what kind of establishment are you running?" "Oh, that patient has a rare disease where his testicles overproduce so much semen that he must expel the excess every 8 hours or his testicles will rupture and he'll bleed to death." "Oh, well, carry on then". A few minutes later she looks in another room and a nurse is giving a patient a blowjob. "How do you explain this?" "Same problem, better health plan".

The joke doesn't need to have any commentary on insurance. Its just a silly joke, based around an absurd scenario with an equally absurd punchline. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby LaserGuy » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:25 pm UTC

Ginger wrote:I don't approve of ANY teens in the porn industry... and they can SAY their actresses are legal age. It didn't stop, for example re: Mila Kunis lying that she eighteen when she was FOURTEEN to get on a TV show for example. Same deals in porn: Lies about their ages, misrepresent themselves to get in the doors of the industry and make more monies. SO: I fully believe there are unwilling, MINORS, being TRAFFICKED in the porn industry. Okay, hold on lemme find you one dude....


The problem with this, like the problem with prohibitions on drugs and prostitution and other vices, is that doing the step that people like the ones in your link want, namely making pornography illegal in some way, will actually exacerbate all of the problems that they hope to solve. There's a huge market for pornographic materials. If you make it impossible for these to be produced and sold in a safe and legal manner, then it means that black market providers are going to move in and produce the same content in an unsafe and illegal manner. Having the industry regulated, monitored, and accessible is going to reduce the likelihood of abuses happening. What's the point of doing human trafficking when you can find people who will voluntarily do a shoot for a couple hundred dollars? Or for free? This frees up police and government resources to focus on the people that are doing things that are actually causing serious harm without impacting 99.9% of the general audience for these materials.

Put another way, would you consider it an improvement if the number of people that use pornographic materials is cut in half, but the number of people abused in making the remaining pornographic materials doubles at the same time?

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Postby Mutex » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:25 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:
Mutex wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:Jokes are like frogs; they die when dissected. But if we are deconstructing the joke, the attractive sex workers went back to the abusive brothel since the union run brothel wasn't giving them any work.

So the joke is making the point that companies with unionised employees get less business or something? Even if the price is the same? Like, the employees getting a bigger share of the profit means they create a less desirable product?

Because if so that sounds like straight up propaganda to keep the proles happy.



The actual joke is that the union practice of giving more work to the members with seniority isn't something that works in all industries. No one is arguing that the first brothel is somehow not a horribly abusive sack of shit. It isn't anti-union, and it certainly isn't pro-non-union. Really doesn't need to be more complicated than that.

Ah, I'd not heard of the whole people with seniority getting more work in unions so didn't get it.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:18 pm UTC

Speaking of faces and porn, this news story may be of relevance to the conversation.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:23 pm UTC

We really need a "natural copyright" law where everyone's face/identifiable-body is owned by them until proven otherwise, to make that shit illegal.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby sardia » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:30 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:We really need a "natural copyright" law where everyone's face/identifiable-body is owned by them until proven otherwise, to make that shit illegal.

What about clones? Or in a more relevant topic, what about when an actor switches jobs? Who owns their face and persona? Remember the spat between comedy central and the late show about who owns stephen colbert?

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:41 pm UTC

When Colbert agreed to do a show, he signed a contract regarding his likeness and whatnot, so if the agreement included computer animated Colbert Bumping and Grinding, well, tough luck. When Jane Doe made a sex tape, it's implied that the sex tape was "for personal use only" until proven otherwise and her ex boyfriend can not sell it and any website hosting it is in violation of copyright. In the event that Jenny has an identical twin Jamie, Jamie can sell her own likeness but not Jenny's, but when your computer uses a fake image of Jenny it's still a copyright violation and unless Jamie or Jenny allows it, it's gotta go.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby morriswalters » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:26 am UTC

Mad cackle. What did you expect all the pervs to do with all that wonderful technology?

I checked it out and didn't see a take down notice in sight. This will be a very hard copyright fight. And it will get better if any other software I've seen is any indicator. We've come a long way since text based screens.

Talk about incest porn! Your pervy neighbor will be posting video of the family in poses you never expected. I would be frightened if I weren't older than dirt.

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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby LaserGuy » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:02 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:When Colbert agreed to do a show, he signed a contract regarding his likeness and whatnot, so if the agreement included computer animated Colbert Bumping and Grinding, well, tough luck. When Jane Doe made a sex tape, it's implied that the sex tape was "for personal use only" until proven otherwise and her ex boyfriend can not sell it and any website hosting it is in violation of copyright. In the event that Jenny has an identical twin Jamie, Jamie can sell her own likeness but not Jenny's, but when your computer uses a fake image of Jenny it's still a copyright violation and unless Jamie or Jenny allows it, it's gotta go.


Honestly, I think there's a decent chance that this would fall under fair use the way laws currently stand.

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:49 pm UTC

natraj wrote:so your "sources" are an opinion piece that posits that porn increases the demand for sex and therefore, obv, increases sex trafficking (no actual proof of this much less proof of increase in trafficked teens due to porn much less increase in trafficked teens in porn itself) and then a piece by catherine "sex work is all inherently trafficking" mckinnon? gotcha.

It would be... very, very difficult to track the Entire Porn industry 'cause... they got thousands or millions of dollars and... I think increasing demand for sex WOULD increase trafficking because. Sometimes unwilling women get caught up in sex work. I don't think my claims are at all controversial and don't even require cites yet, I would find more, if it didn't skeeve/creepy feels me out. Anyways: Unwilling teen girls ARE FORCED to work in pornography, I know it for a fact, and they are forced to work in sexy jobs too. It's not a controversial claim and I AM open to finding better "sources" Again... and Again... just. I am gonna say I was actually right that sex trafficking of underage, and even unwilling adults, happens C-Constantly in the pornography industry no cites needed.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:34 pm UTC

Oh just admit you are wrong already.

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:41 pm UTC

UNwilling women or girls... never, ever get caught up in sexy works? EVER? I think... y'all are the ones who are wrong... and blaming my Google searching skills won't make the trafficking of UNwilling, teen and adult women and girls in the pornography industry go away AT ALL. IN FACT denying it would just make it happen even more and more.... So: Whatever I guess Google-fu failed me and I couldn't cites my opinions well enough? THAT is the ONLY part I was wrong about NOT my original claims.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:49 pm UTC

You want to claim that porn is a shady business? No one will argue against that. You want to claim that the (legal) porn industry relies on trafficking teenage girls? We are going to want to see some proof of that claim, especially since posting videos online of your crimes is the dumbest idea out there.

Otherwise, I can claim that since Verizon is obviously a shady company, they run a secret organ harvesting department. After all, they are dicks, therefore they must harvest organs right?

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:57 pm UTC

Well, not really no no, it's NOT the same as some paranoid, psychotic thoughts about shady companies running organs harvesting businesses. It's more like: Warning your teen daughter not to get into sex work, 'cause, her clients might not always care if she willing. But yes: My original claims were: Porn is a shady business and relies on teen girls AT LEAST PARTIALLY for their schoolgirls fetishes shoots and whatnot... which is wrong... Especially if they are unwilling. WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE to cite unless we ask Every, Single, Pornography Actress out there to ID themselves to proves their ages and their thoughts and feelings re: Whether they willingly entered the industry or not? So: Yes, I am wrong that the Legal Porn Industries may not be taking steps to reduce unwilling teen girls among their ranks yet: I AM POSITIVE it still happens and it baffles me why why I even got to cites that opinions at all? 'Cause... unwilling girls and women is the names of the games re: sex workers. As far as I can tell anyways.... I could be wrong and I guess I am?
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby natraj » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:06 pm UTC

Ginger wrote:Internet pornography degrades and objectifies women and girls, traffics teen girls, abuses adult women AND SENDS THEM TO THE HOSPITAL. Routinely.


your original claim was that trafficking teenagers & sending women to the hospital was a routine part of the industry. i am certainly not going to argue that zero people are abused or trafficked because there are abused and trafficked people in literally every industry out there under capitalism, but if you're going to claim that it is happening as an industry standard that's why people were asking for citations instead of just Your Opinion On How You Feel About Sex Work.
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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:14 pm UTC

Well, okay, you quoted me and I guess I said those things yet? I still believe adult women and teen girls are sent to hospitals b/c of their pornography work, I even read a documentary about an amateur pornographer guy WHO TOLD HIS WORKERS THAT, "You will go to the hospital at least once when you work for me." So, no, I can't cite it I can only offer my feelings about sex work... and my feelings are... unwilling teen girls and women get abused, abused to Hell and back, by their porn bosses And by their clients and co-workers. And I can't cite it adequately I guess? So: Fine, I am wrong and y'all are right, I can NEVER be right about my own f bombing profession apparently? Whatever.
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby sardia » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:45 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:You want to claim that porn is a shady business? No one will argue against that. You want to claim that the (legal) porn industry relies on trafficking teenage girls? We are going to want to see some proof of that claim, especially since posting videos online of your crimes is the dumbest idea out there.

Otherwise, I can claim that since Verizon is obviously a shady company, they run a secret organ harvesting department. After all, they are dicks, therefore they must harvest organs right?

What about the rape of porn stars on set? You would have video evidence of a crime, but it would be covered up as part of the acting. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31846.html
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Re: Face covering law passed in Quebec

Postby CorruptUser » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:49 pm UTC

IIRC, Deen raped the girls off camera, not on. And after Stoya came forward, he got dropped by a lot of studios and got blacklisted by a lot of other workers, even if the government can't be assed to prosecute.

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Re: Porn, Ethical Porn, Use of Likenesses in Porn.

Postby Ginger » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:09 pm UTC

WE ALL BEING WAY, way off topics. We not even Discussin' re: face covering laws in Quebec. Plz to be moving tangents about pornography industries to a more appropriate threads? AND I STARTED IT so. I ain't coming back here unless someone argues at me more and more....
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