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July 11, 2010 - Easter Island

Postby joeframbach » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:49 am UTC

link: http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/S ... -fig04.GIF

I would like to be there. It's going to be a 4-minute, 50-second totality, but I'd like to spend 3 or 4 days there. That would be really cool. At that time, I would just be leaving school with a masters. This would be nice for a post-graduation trip.

Anyone else?

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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:51 am UTC

You bring something great. I definitely would want to go, and is on my list of events to attend right under the next meet-up.

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Postby joeframbach » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:53 am UTC

Should this be under the meetup forum? I didn't know, so I put it in General. Feel free to move it, oh great powers of the fora.

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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:54 am UTC

Maybe. But living/going to school in Hawaii means that I will definitely try to make it there, as long as I set enough reminders...

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Postby joeframbach » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:59 am UTC

Living/going to school in Pennsylvania means muchos pesos for the trip. And being just out of school means that money lenders will start knocking on my door.

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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:01 am UTC

If this is something you would not want to miss for the world, you find a way to be there. After all, wanting something sometimes makes it happen... (I know I messed it up, but it will soon be sigged.)

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Postby joeframbach » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:03 am UTC

sig'd. I'm going to bed now. I expect this thread to be 20 pages long and talking about string cheese or how people draw ampersands by the time I wake up.

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Postby Nimz » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:25 am UTC

joeframbach wrote:sig'd. I'm going to bed now. I expect this thread to be 20 pages long and talking about string cheese or how people draw ampersands by the time I wake up.
I'm sure the powers that be can change the name of this thread to "20 pages long"

String cheese is the best thing since eclipses were invented, don't you think? So stringy and so cheesy. It's got it all! You can even string it out to draw ampersands! Such a versatile food. If you bring any string cheese with you to Easter Island, I'm so there. Wouldn't miss the str..erm.. eclipse for the world 8)
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Postby Forthur » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:29 am UTC

Odds are you're already too late. I don't know the maximum tourist capacity of Easter Island, but I reckon it's not too much. And there are lots and lots of astronomers that don't want to miss this. I wouldn't be surprised if all the accomodations on the island are already fully booked by now.

However, if we rent or buy a large ship, we could not only enjoy this unique event, but also turn it into an xkcd meetup and lay the foundation for xkcdia at the same time.
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Postby Nyarlathotep » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:03 am UTC

Forthur wrote:Odds are you're already too late. I don't know the maximum tourist capacity of Easter Island, but I reckon it's not too much. And there are lots and lots of astronomers that don't want to miss this. I wouldn't be surprised if all the accomodations on the island are already fully booked by now.

However, if we rent or buy a large ship, we could not only enjoy this unique event, but also turn it into an xkcd meetup and lay the foundation for xkcdia at the same time.


... can it be done?

I'm quite serious here. Is there anyone on XKCD with this kind of connections/funds?

Ideally I'd want an aircraft carrier (personal preference) but that's clearly impossible. So... next best thing?
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Postby Hawknc » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:04 am UTC

A whole bunch of geeks isolated in international waters? I don't know if that's awesome or terrifying. :D

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Postby TheKhakinator » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:25 am UTC

Nyarlathotep wrote:Ideally I'd want an aircraft carrier (personal preference) and that's practical in Russia.

Fix'd.

I'm looking at you, ex-USSR military surplus!

Seriously, this can't be any stupider than that Pirate Bay buy-an-island thing.

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Postby dumbclown » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:03 pm UTC

11th of July is my birthday. I'll be there. I've never seen one.

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Postby rxninja » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:04 pm UTC

Oh me yarm, we need to rent/buy a ship. That would be fucking incredible.
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Postby Forthur » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:58 pm UTC

Hawknc wrote:A whole bunch of geeks isolated in international waters? I don't know if that's awesome or terrifying. :D

Both! Awesome for us, terrifying for the rest of the planet.
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Postby Dark Ragnarok » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:07 pm UTC

Well i'm sure we could all pitch in to rent a boat. And we have at least 2 years to save an accommodate even more XKCDers to pitch in. Just hopefully not enough o need a bigger boat.

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Postby hendusoone » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:32 pm UTC

I wonder just how incredibly expensive it would be to charter a boat to do this?
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Postby ThorFluff » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:24 pm UTC

I'm betting someone here has a Captains exam, and i've been a deckhand before... we should be able to keep the price down.
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Postby thefiddler » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:30 pm UTC

I will definitely try to be there! :)
It will be right before my 21st birthday, so I could probably persuade my parents to chip in a little bit of money for me to go as a present. ^_^

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Postby mrcheesypants » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:54 pm UTC

I might go if I'm able to get enough money and considering I'll still be a college student, I doubt it.
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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:11 pm UTC

If we were to meet up in Tahiti prior to going to Easter Island, would that make it better for anyone?

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Postby joeframbach » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:32 pm UTC

ArchangelShrike wrote:If we were to meet up in Tahiti prior to going to Easter Island, would that make it better for anyone?


The island is only 11x23 km large. It can't be that hard to find other XKCDers, but I'm willing to bet that a HUGE majority of visitors will be hardcore astronomers (which I am not).

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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:44 pm UTC

It's more going to Tahiti because it's Tahiti, and it's (almost) next door... I don't doubt it will be hard to find other xkcdians there, but some other might need extra justification.

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Postby Solt » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:44 pm UTC

hendusoone wrote:I wonder just how incredibly expensive it would be to charter a boat to do this?


$60,000 per day for a 100 person yacht is the lowest possible price.

http://www.cruise-ship-charters.com/htm ... q_a.html#6

Extrapolating to 3,000 people, we're looking at $1.8 million per day. For 7 days that comes out to $4,200 per passenger for the trip, plus travel expense to and from the port of berth, so an average of $6,000 per person. Also, I'm guessing anything bigger than a yacht gets more expensive rather than less since expenses like fuel and support staff will balloon pretty quickly.

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Postby Forthur » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:51 pm UTC

ArchangelShrike wrote:If we were to meet up in Tahiti prior to going to Easter Island, would that make it better for anyone?

I'm not sure, but I think this will make the trip for me even longer. However, I'd very much like to. Maybe, if I start saving now, I can just afford a rowing boat by that date. If I row myself.
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Postby Nimz » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:05 pm UTC

Oooh. Boat. Good idea. It would be awesome to track the path of the eclipse in a boat. Then it would last longer than just 4-5 minutes. I have little to no debt (of course I also have little to no assets), but with a Master's in maths by 2008 I should be able to find a job that pays well enough that I can save up for 2010.

[EDIT]It would be good to get the year right![/EDIT]
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Postby hendusoone » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:42 pm UTC

Solt wrote:
hendusoone wrote:I wonder just how incredibly expensive it would be to charter a boat to do this?


$60,000 per day for a 100 person yacht is the lowest possible price.

http://www.cruise-ship-charters.com/htm ... q_a.html#6

Extrapolating to 3,000 people, we're looking at $1.8 million per day. For 7 days that comes out to $4,200 per passenger for the trip, plus travel expense to and from the port of berth, so an average of $6,000 per person. Also, I'm guessing anything bigger than a yacht gets more expensive rather than less since expenses like fuel and support staff will balloon pretty quickly.

Sorry, but this is a forum of intelligent kids, not millionaire retirees.

Yeah, that's about as incredibly expensive as I expected.
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Postby bbctol » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:45 pm UTC

Eclipse+Easter Island? If there aren't any gods summoned from the deep/zombie villagers rising from the ground/mysterious flashes of light bringing amnesia/alien landings, I'm going to be disappointed.

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Postby hendusoone » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:51 pm UTC

If you feel like waiting 10 years, this one is quite convenient to those of us in the US: http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/S ... oogle.html

Granted, not as cool as Easter Island, but a hell of a lot less expensive.
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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:55 pm UTC

Yes, xkcd will exist, and we will make sure that it continues on. Maybe the comics might not continue on forever, but the community will, of people that enjoy everything xkcd stands for.

And travelling to that eclipse would be just as far as me travelling to Easter Island, so I vote 2010.

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Postby sillybear25 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:08 pm UTC

joeframbach wrote:sig'd. I'm going to bed now. I expect this thread to be 20 pages long and talking about string cheese or how people draw ampersands by the time I wake up.


I really can't see why anyone would think an ampersand would be hard to draw; it's just like a cursive capital "S," except backwards, until you get to the little tail thingy. Just remember that ampersands must have the serif on the end to be technically correct, as they are derived from the latin word "et" and the little tail is supposed to be the "t." It doesn't look like a "t" without the serif.[/rant]
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Postby ArchangelShrike » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:10 pm UTC

Yeah, but the string cheese won't stay in place when I shape it into a ampersand.

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Postby Nimz » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:20 pm UTC

ArchangelShrike wrote:Yeah, but the string cheese won't stay in place when I shape it into a ampersand.

That's because you're doing it all wrong. Apply a little bit of heat (much like you'd be likely to find on Easter Island on July 11, 2010) and it should be easy to keep the strings from going the wrong direction. Another way you can do it is you can make a large ampersand with a bunch of strings from the cheese.
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Postby Mathmagic » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:27 pm UTC

sillybear25 wrote:I really can't see why anyone would think an ampersand would be hard to draw; it's just like a cursive capital "S," except backwards, until you get to the little tail thingy. Just remember that ampersands must have the serif on the end to be technically correct, as they are derived from the latin word "et" and the little tail is supposed to be the "t." It doesn't look like a "t" without the serif.[/rant]


I've *never* been able to write ampersands. They always end up coming out like lopsided 8's with a flat ass.

Yes, I know you just saw it in your brain after you read that. That's what mine look like.

And string cheese always seems to greasy to me. It says 100% real cheese. But we all know that it's not. It's just not.

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It's really only greasy if it's semi-warm instead of cold. Which is usually the way you find it when it's spent three hours in a lunchbox with no icepack.
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Postby EstLladon » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:20 pm UTC

I want to be there! Because that time I'll totally be the farthest traveller. On Easter Island the misterious australian mutant ability to be farther from everything will not work!!!

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Postby joeframbach » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:34 pm UTC

I checked with a few travel agencies, and they said that the current price to Santiago, Chile round-trip is near $1300. From there, there are two flights per week serving Easter Island. These are current prices and can change dramatically in two years.
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Postby eternauta3k » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:49 am UTC

mathmagic wrote:I've *never* been able to write ampersands. They always end up coming out like lopsided 8's with a flat ass.
It's easy once you figure it out. You have to start with the lower right part, make a kind of alpha and then cross the beginning
I never get it to look natural since I don't write it nearly as often as other letters, so it looks more "drawn"
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Postby sillybear25 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:53 am UTC

eternauta3k wrote:
mathmagic wrote:I've *never* been able to write ampersands. They always end up coming out like lopsided 8's with a flat ass.
It's easy once you figure it out. You have to start with the lower right part, make a kind of alpha and then cross the beginning
I never get it to look natural since I don't write it nearly as often as other letters, so it looks more "drawn"


It's pretty easy. If you know how to draw a capital "S" in cursive, just do that backwards and eliminate the tail-thing.
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Re: July 11, 2010 - Easter Island

Postby cacp » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:34 pm UTC

Dude, I'm so there. Honestly. I just checked Kayak.com and they got flights from Toronto to easter island for about 2k. I'm trying to rope my gf into coming too. Just take a tent and some food and camp out on one of the mountains for a "good spot." Bring a dslr, small telescope, and filters. How sweet would that be?
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