Shock and awe!

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Did you laugh?

I laughed, it was funny!
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46%
I laughed but then I felt horrible.
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I understand how some people would find it funny. I'm just not one of them.
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That's not a subject one should joke about...
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I find otters and/or ducks funny.
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Shock and awe!

Postby Zohar » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:10 pm UTC

A fact you probably don't know about me (unless you've been reading my posts a lot) - My mom past away when I was 12.

Anyway, I was on a camping trip this weekend with some friends. At the end of it we sat in a restaurant. Naturally, the conversation turned to the subject on ninjas. We talked about that clip from The Onion about the yearly ninja parade (search function doesn't work on The Onion's website, weird). So one of my friends says "My dad's an awesome ninja, I haven't seen him since this morning!"

At which point I say "My mom's the best ninja! I haven't seen her in over 10 years!"

Some of them laughed, two felt uncomfortable (apparently, they didn't know my mom's dead) and one of the guys said he's really shocked to hear me say that. This surprised me quite a bit, for two reasons. First, I frequently make jokes about the matter. Second, Israelis in general are known as having a very grim sense of humor.

So I wanted to know how you reacted and also if you have similar stories of your own. Note that in this case, I didn't try to appear strange or outrageous (which I sometimes do), I genuinely thought it was funny.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:14 pm UTC

Someone has a sig, "I believe that everything can and should be laughed at". It's an amazingly powerful force and is a good, healthy, way to cope.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Pirate.Bondage » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:28 pm UTC

I say kudos to you for coping so well and being able to joke.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Zohar » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:50 pm UTC

Thanks, Elder and PB. I didn't mean that I feel bad with the joke itself. I meant I felt a bit bad for my friends for making them uncomfortable, that's all.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby SecondTalon » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:04 pm UTC

Why? They obviously have no sense of humor.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:07 pm UTC

George Carlin :)

    You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk.
    Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something
    but you can't joke about it.
    Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.
    Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny."
    I say, "fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?"
    I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.

    Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has, trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who is kicking.
    Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off?
    You would lose your hard-on in the process.
    Up at the north pole you dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes.
    That's another thing I wonder.
    I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning,
    or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody.
    These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools.

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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby b.i.o » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:21 pm UTC

If it's you making the joke, and if you think it's funny, I think I'd probably find it funny, although I can pretty easily see why others wouldn't.

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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby EstLladon » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:30 pm UTC

After reading it I thought: "No, a dead ninja is not a good ninja, after all."

I think like this all the time. I believe that if it is a really good joke it can be about anything. Now I'm startint to learn to not to it alll out loud. People don't always think as I do...
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Ian Ex Machina » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:39 pm UTC

I like the majority of people who posted already feel that any subject can be made humourous, and other people really should lighten up.

What annoys me most is that I getaway with jokes about abortions, rape paedophilia etc, but as soon as I make a joke about a celebrity that had just died ( For example, talking about Colin Mcrae's Helicopter simulator crashing on my pc, on the day/day after he died.) suddenly isn't funny. /rant
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby 4=5 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:42 pm UTC

I find it funny because it's your own mom you're talking about, if you said that about a friend's mom it's a little less amusing.

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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:50 pm UTC

4=5 wrote:I find it funny because it's your own mom you're talking about, if you said that about a friend's mom it's a little less amusing.


That's because you presume they're able to joke about it, which you aren't qualified to presume.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Justinlrb » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:56 pm UTC

I gotta say it's a pretty grim joke. I think I have a pretty grim since of humor. I can joke about all kinds of strange that I've been through, and people usually laugh. (Probably because I'm laughing.) It's probably the time that has passed which allows you to tell this kind of joke. But, if you weren't laughing too I can kind of understand your friends reaction. I might have let out a half chuckle but I don't think I would have laughed out loud.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby tiny » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:10 pm UTC

My spontaneous reaction was astonishment about the fact that you seem to have coped with the loss of your mom quite well (my mom lost her mom when she was your age and she still has some issues, so...).

Hadn't I known about your mom I would have loughed most likely, because I can think of some background stories that would make your remark funny and fill in the blanks with these.
I'd have gone 'Oh...' after asking you why exactly it was funny.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Malsies » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:02 am UTC

My family has a skeleton in the closet. My grandmother murdered my grandfather. My mother was only ten years old, and I think seventeen when her mother finally went to prison.

No one in my family talks about this. It's a taboo subject. As far as everyone is concerned, my grandmother and her side of the family never existed.

This past fall, however, I met my grandmother's younger sister. This woman was abused by my grandmother, and testified at the trial, even under threat of physical harm and being disowned by her family. Talking to her, I was surprised at how willing she was to talk about the whole thing, and even joke about it! No one had ever been that straightforward with me before about the incident.

I did find out, though, that my grandmother is possibly still alive and would be out of prison by now. Which is a little terrifying.
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Re: Shock and awe!

Postby Zohar » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:34 am UTC

[quote="Malsies"]<kinda scary story>[quote]

I'm not saying everyone should joke about everything. I do know that for me and my family, at least, humor helped quite a bit in dealing with this (and other various hardships we've had in our family, none as big as this). It doesn't need to apply to everyone. And I'm uncertain whether or not I would be offended if someone else were to joke about my mother and not me (or a family member).

It reminds me how, when La Vita e Bella came out, some people in Israel were very upset about someone making a comedy in the holocaust, because Roberto Benini isn't Jewish. But really, I didn't mind it. There's a difference between joking abotu a subject and not having any respect for it.

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