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What's your alignment?

Lawful Good
30
9%
Neutral Good
90
27%
Chaotic Good
65
20%
Lawful Neutral
13
4%
True Neutral
44
13%
Chaotic Neutral
73
22%
Lawful Evil
4
1%
Neutral Evil
6
2%
Chaotic Evil
4
1%
 
Total votes: 329

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Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 12:57 am UTC

Using the good ol' fashion Dungeons and Dragons system, what would your alignment (in 73h RL) be? What do you think of the different alignments? Which are your favorite alignments to play (not 73h RL)?
I'm Neutral Good but my favorite alignments to play are Chaotic Good and Chaotic Neutral.
I haven't tried out evils yet...
A brief summary of the alignments:

Lawful Good (Police, Superman): Follow the laws unless they are clearly evil, and if you just don't agree with one, have it changed before you break it.
Neutral Good (Frodo): Do good. It's generally best to follow laws not to cause trouble, but breaking them is ok, especially if you do so in order to/while doing good.
Chaotic Good (Fantastic Four, Hiro Nakamura): Do whatever it takes to make sure justice and the forces of goodness prevail, even if this requires blatant disregard of the law or even possibly ungood acts for the greater good.
Lawful Neutral (Samurai, Bureaucrats): Follow the laws. Follow the laws. Obey the traditional rules of society. Follow the laws. If the laws are evil, they can be changed, but should still be followed until they are anulled.
True Neutral (Hippies, Tree-Huggers): Preserve the balance of society; make sure things are as they naturally should be. Also falling into this group would be apathetics.
Chaotic Neutral (...Example?): Do whatever you feel like doing. You aren't evil, but if somebody who pissed you off just happened to fall down an elevator shaft, you probably wouldn't mind.
Lawful Evil (Mafia, Nazis, Yakuza, Darth Vader): Evil-doers (just misunderstood, right?) in a well-structured criminal society, quite often with a greater purpose. They might attack a city and kill all the members of a certain group that they are not particularly fond of.
Neutral Evil (Assassins, Sylar): Those who do evil because it's convenient. That's a nice diamond on your finger; mind if I take it? Of course not. They might attack a city and enslave the citizens because then they'd have to do less work.
Chaotic Evil (Crips, Alex [A Clockwork Orange]): I can do whatever the hell I want; good luck trying to stop me! If you think walking down the street and throwing moltov cocktails at random groups of pedestrians sounds entertaining, go for it! I mean, what's wrong with that? You get to watch them scream and burn. Chaotic Evils might attack a city and slaughter all its denizens because it sounds like fun. And it would be.
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Re: Alignment

Postby d3adf001 » Tue May 13, 2008 1:03 am UTC

i dont know what any of them are but chaotic good sounds the more fun. lawful evil also sounds fun but impossible

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Re: Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 1:11 am UTC

d3adf001 wrote:i dont know what any of them are but chaotic good sounds the more fun. lawful evil also sounds fun but impossible

Lawful Evil doesn't mean you follow the laws of the government/society; it implies a structured group of evil-doers (possibly even just misunderstood), usually with a greater purpose. The Mafia and (it really hurts to compare these two, but) the Nazis would both be Lawful Evils; the Crips and Bloods, though they are groups, lack any real structure, discipline, or purpose, so they would be Chaotic Evil.
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Re: Alignment

Postby d3adf001 » Tue May 13, 2008 1:13 am UTC

awww shit lawful evil sounds great

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Re: Alignment

Postby Philwelch » Tue May 13, 2008 1:19 am UTC

d3adf001 wrote:awww shit lawful evil sounds great


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Re: Alignment

Postby d3adf001 » Tue May 13, 2008 1:20 am UTC

Philwelch wrote:
d3adf001 wrote:awww shit lawful evil sounds great


You're a Nazi?


no but i would like to systemmaticly destroy stuff

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Re: Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 1:24 am UTC

I guess I should give more of a breakdown of the alignments.
I'll edit my first post.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Xeio » Tue May 13, 2008 1:30 am UTC

Semi almost relevant? In any case True Neutral. 8) PH34R ME! Or not. Your choice.

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Re: Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 1:44 am UTC

I added examples of various alignments; if you guys can think of better/additional ones, let me know!
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Re: Alignment

Postby annals » Tue May 13, 2008 1:56 am UTC

Fat Tony wrote:Chaotic Neutral (...Example?): Do whatever you feel like doing. You aren't evil, but if somebody who pissed you off just happened to fall down an elevator shaft, you probably wouldn't mind.


I've never played Dungeons and Dragons, but from your description Han Solo came to mind. Of course, it's been forever since I saw those movies, too...

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Re: Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 2:01 am UTC

Eh, I'd put him more as a True Neutral. Chaotic Neutrals tend not to be very dependable.
I see what you're saying though.
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Re: Alignment

Postby lowbart » Tue May 13, 2008 2:02 am UTC

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think V in V for Vendetta would be an example of chaotic good, and Alex (the protagonist) in A Clockwork Orange is chaotic evil.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Fat Tony » Tue May 13, 2008 2:05 am UTC

Never seen/read either, but I'll take your word for it.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Aleril » Tue May 13, 2008 2:19 am UTC

Lawful Good.


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Re: Alignment

Postby SecondTalon » Tue May 13, 2008 2:37 am UTC

Fat Tony wrote:
d3adf001 wrote:i dont know what any of them are but chaotic good sounds the more fun. lawful evil also sounds fun but impossible

Lawful Evil doesn't mean you follow the laws of the government/society;

Well, no.. you follow the laws in the way that works to your benefit. If it's to your benefit to obey the spirit but not the letter, you do that. If it's better for you to obey the letter and ignore the spirit, you do that. If that doesn't work, you use a loophole to make it non-applicable. When all else fails, you feign ignorance of the law, or how you can't remember.

I'm True Neutral. Order has it's place, but not in everything. And it's perfectly fine to only worry about yourself, so long as you aren't a complete dick about it.

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Re: Alignment

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Tue May 13, 2008 3:25 am UTC

Chaotic Good, I'd say. Stick me in with V and Mal and the other rogues.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Savoy_Truffle » Tue May 13, 2008 3:34 am UTC

Neutral Good, apparently, though I've been described as True Neutral by friends.

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Re: Alignment

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Re: Alignment

Postby McCaber » Tue May 13, 2008 5:32 am UTC

Am I the only Lawful Evil one on the fora? Well, at least I'm honest about it.

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Re: Alignment

Postby Kaelri » Tue May 13, 2008 6:02 am UTC

Ironically, my D&D group actually stopped using the alignment system years ago. We'd start with general character concepts and then argue fruitlessly over which coordinate to squeeze them into.

I think it was the triple-schizophrenic that really left us no other option.

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Re: Alignment

Postby steewi » Tue May 13, 2008 6:11 am UTC

I tend towards chaotic good and true neutral. I like the whole idea of balance maintenance, but I'm not sure evil has a place in the balance.

Chaotic neutral - Faith Lehane?

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Re: Alignment

Postby Philwelch » Tue May 13, 2008 6:14 am UTC

Kaelri wrote:Ironically, my D&D group actually stopped using the alignment system years ago. We'd start with general character concepts and then argue fruitlessly over which coordinate to squeeze them into.

I think it was the triple-schizophrenic that really left us no other option.


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Re: Alignment

Postby Mitora » Tue May 13, 2008 6:25 am UTC

I'm a very business oriented person. It seems to me that following laws is good because its the general ideal of people that its good, so it is therefore desirable because it will make the most profit. I would go for Lawful good, but not everyone agrees with all the current laws and find it okay to bend and sometimes break; i.e.: "Dont be a sheep" (Law and Order). They connect with this idea because they dont like feeling controlled. This belief makes it easy for me to coexist with people, and it fits in with my moral ideals nicely, so I would be a Netural Good, someone who believes in doing right, but within reason to allow for personal freedom. I have a strong ability to disconnect myself from situations and people and look at it objectivly too, so that also works with my business way of looking at things.


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Re: Alignment

Postby Nimz » Tue May 13, 2008 7:22 am UTC

I guess I'd be neutral good. I've not played D&D, though, so I can't comment on what I like playing.

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Re: Alignment

Postby ZLVT » Tue May 13, 2008 7:55 am UTC

I'd go for chaotic neutral. I dont go out of my way to break the law as long as it promises not to go out of it's way and get in mine.
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Re: Alignment

Postby tryptanymph » Tue May 13, 2008 8:14 am UTC

Chaotic Neutral or True Neutral here. I like the freedom of doing non-lawful acts, but not being constrained to good nor evil.

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Re: Alignment

Postby GhostWolfe » Tue May 13, 2008 8:41 am UTC

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I picked CG, though I tend to act LG because I'm a wimp and I don't want trouble. I don't identify with the Robin Hood's and so forth, I'm just essentially a good person (as my Celestial Choir result indicates) who is also extremelly selfish and is willing to lie, cheat, and steal to ocassionally indulge my selfishness.

I prefer to play NG because I find it the easiest alignment to play. As a DM, I expect my players to choose an alignment, but I don't hold them to it like an Alignment Nazi. I think it adds depth and encourages RP, but alignment shouldn't be a stick with which to beat your players. That, and by making them pick alignments, I can "discourage" them from doing things I don't want them to >.>

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Re: Alignment

Postby Zohar » Tue May 13, 2008 8:54 am UTC

I think True Neutral fits me best. I try to follow the rules but not all of them (illegal downloads, driving over the speed limit etc.). Maybe a bit towards the good side - I think everything I do is selfish and for my own good but I recognize that acting according to social expectations usually pays off.
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Re: Alignment

Postby ZiGouNeT » Tue May 13, 2008 11:06 am UTC

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Chaotic neutral here, I have too much of a problem with authority to be anything other than chaotic, and I don't have enough morals to be good .

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Re: Alignment

Postby Chrismclegless » Tue May 13, 2008 11:09 am UTC

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I think I'm Neutral Good. I try to stay within the law but if I have to break it, so be it. Also, I have a hard time being cruel, even in video games.
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Re: Alignment

Postby no-genius » Tue May 13, 2008 12:33 pm UTC

I guess, neutral good.
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Re: Alignment

Postby GhostWolfe » Tue May 13, 2008 12:53 pm UTC

no-genius wrote:Also I don't get the "Ew... Human!" bit

That confused me for a moment, but then I re-read the summoning bit, thought about the lammasu that someone else had just posted, and realised they mean "pretend you're an angel".

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Re: Alignment

Postby lowbart » Tue May 13, 2008 12:58 pm UTC

I think I aspire for Chaotic Good but instead end up just being somewhere between neutral good and true neutral.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Robin S » Tue May 13, 2008 2:00 pm UTC

I like your examples. Now I'm picturing those characters fighting dragons and things.
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Re: Alignment

Postby SecondTalon » Tue May 13, 2008 2:00 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:I think True Neutral fits me best. I try to follow the rules but not all of them (illegal downloads, driving over the speed limit etc.). Maybe a bit towards the good side - I think everything I do is selfish and for my own good but I recognize that acting according to social expectations usually pays off.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Belial » Tue May 13, 2008 2:01 pm UTC

Actually, I would argue that, as written in D&D, most people in RL are neutral evil.

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Postby SecondTalon » Tue May 13, 2008 2:02 pm UTC

.. in America, at least, yeah. Not sure about other parts of the world, as I don't live there. So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Belial » Tue May 13, 2008 2:05 pm UTC

Yeah. And it's not like it's a really *strong* tendency, either. Being *really* evil would take, like, effort or something. It's just that being good would take a little more.
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Re: Alignment

Postby Robin S » Tue May 13, 2008 2:08 pm UTC

This thread has made me want to make my first D&D character chaotic evil. And there was I planning on a neutral good druid...
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Re: Alignment

Postby Kizyr » Tue May 13, 2008 2:12 pm UTC

I'm definitely Neutral Good. I think rules and order have their place, but they're not always made with good intentions and sometimes need to be circumvented or actively changed. As for the "Good" part, well, I think our ultimate goals should always involve helping others at some point along the way.

Though I should mention that the Chaotic-Lawful spectrum is going to be affected by where you live. If I was in Bangladesh then I might be chaotic good; if I was in the United Federation of Planets then I might be lawful good.

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