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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby pseudoidiot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:55 pm UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Steax » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:57 am UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby emceng » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:51 pm UTC

Well it was good while it lasted. I went almost 10 whole hours at work without having to deal with broken equipment. This is fucking ridiculous.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Menacing Spike » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:16 pm UTC

Sister's comp is riddled with spyware and almost nonfunctional. She has no internet access.

Must format and reinstal. I'm off to england tomorrow again and she hasn't the know-how to do that herself safely (it's a osx-xp dual boot, so errors could have extremely unwelcome consequences).

Want to sleep. Can't. Argh. Watching the format to NTFS progress bar with bloodshot eyes.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby The Scyphozoa » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:40 am UTC

Why on Earth would someone with little know-how even NEED a dual boot?
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby SurgicalSteel » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:44 am UTC

It doesn't take much know-how to know that some programs run only on osx and some run only on xp.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Menacing Spike » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:09 am UTC

The Scyphozoa wrote:Why on Earth would someone with little know-how even NEED a dual boot?


We both like the OsX interface better, while wanting/having to use windows-specific programs? And virtual machines, or WINE, are not always optimal (be it only for performance).

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby darkspork » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:12 pm UTC

Tried to reboot and move a machine that hasn't been rebooted in a good 5 years today. Not only was GRUB messed up, but the CD drive was dead and the power button managed to fall off. Yes, the power button fell off. Not to mention iptables...
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby The Cat » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:37 pm UTC

I FUCKING HATE CRYPTIC RANTS

WITHOUT CONTEXT I CANNOT PROCESS THEM

THIS FUCKING SUCKS

ALL CAPS FOR ANNOYANCE


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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Menacing Spike » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:58 am UTC

The Cat wrote:Well, you MUST love me. lol


BUT WITH YOU INTELLIGIBILITY IS NOT EXPECTED

SO I DON'T EVEN TRY, NO EFFORT, THEREFORE NO FRUSTRATION

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Magnanimous » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:40 am UTC

The batteries in my external mouse died, so I put in some of my rechargeable ones. Nothing happened. Apparently the mouse needs two 1.5-volt AAs, and my rechargeable ones are only 1.2.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby ArgonV » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:23 am UTC

You were out of money. Me buying you two drinks doesn't mean I'm hitting on you. I just tend to buy drinks for 'needy' friends, especially after a fat pay check.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Dason » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:16 am UTC

Why do some people feel the need to have a horrible experimental design and put no thought into how the data is going to be analyzed until after they collect all of their data. Look - I understand you put a lot of effort into getting this data. But you fucked up and it's worthless for the most part. I'm not a magician - if you would have come to see me before you did this piece of shit experiment I could have helped you make it not so shitty. But now I'm stuck telling you that due to a lot of reasons (almost all of them being your fault) the data is definitely not worth the time you put into it.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Steax » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:26 am UTC

[Advice wanted]

(I think we need these things, some people just want to rant, and some people actually want feedback.)

My parents offered me to join them on a trip to the US (Palo Alto) for a week. For added background, I'm an IT professional. The trip will cost over $3000, and I seriously don't think it's a worthy investment. My parents seemingly assume that I could benefit from meeting "my kind of people" there, but for all I know, IT people don't tend to lounge around all day and happily meet random people on the streets. It'd be even more dodgy to introduce myself as a guy on vacation. Besides, you usually don't get to know fellow geeks that way (going and contributing to their project is usually much better). Am I wrong? Is it worthwhile? I'm trying to explain to my parents that it's not worth the cost, and it'd be better used for other purposes.

(It's a pant because I'm tired of arguing about this.)
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Zarq » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:38 am UTC

The best and cheapest way to meet "your kind of people" is on the internet. And $3000 for visiting 1 place? I'd pass.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Amie » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:40 am UTC

Steax wrote:[Advice wanted]

(I think we need these things, some people just want to rant, and some people actually want feedback.)

My parents offered me to join them on a trip to the US (Palo Alto) for a week. For added background, I'm an IT professional. The trip will cost over $3000, and I seriously don't think it's a worthy investment. My parents seemingly assume that I could benefit from meeting "my kind of people" there, but for all I know, IT people don't tend to lounge around all day and happily meet random people on the streets. It'd be even more dodgy to introduce myself as a guy on vacation. Besides, you usually don't get to know fellow geeks that way (going and contributing to their project is usually much better). Am I wrong? Is it worthwhile? I'm trying to explain to my parents that it's not worth the cost, and it'd be better used for other purposes.

(It's a pant because I'm tired of arguing about this.)

I've been in this situation. Think about it long and hard. Do you know anyone there from the fora? Anyone you'd be comfortable meeting with? If you don't, then I recommend thinking twice about going there. A week is too short a time for you to meet someone new and geeky. I'm not saying it's impossible but that it's unlikely. However, if all you're looking for is a change of scene and if you'd like to take your mind off things for a while - go. It's a good idea. Visiting a new place is always great and if it's the money you're worried about, well... I can't say much. If that much money is a big deal to you then best postpone the visit for a while after saving up. If it's a bit expensive but nothing you can't get back after a few months of work then screw it, just go.

I don't know if that's of any help but it's all I have because I was in a similar fix a few months ago and those are the thoughts I had.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Steax » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:58 am UTC

Zarq wrote:The best and cheapest way to meet "your kind of people" is on the internet. And $3000 for visiting 1 place? I'd pass.


Yeah, this what was I was thinking. It's not like people will be sitting around waiting for me to arrive. =/

Amie wrote:I've been in this situation. Think about it long and hard. Do you know anyone there from the fora? Anyone you'd be comfortable meeting with? If you don't, then I recommend thinking twice about going there. A week is too short a time for you to meet someone new and geeky. I'm not saying it's impossible but that it's unlikely. However, if all you're looking for is a change of scene and if you'd like to take your mind off things for a while - go. It's a good idea. Visiting a new place is always great and if it's the money you're worried about, well... I can't say much. If that much money is a big deal to you then best postpone the visit for a while after saving up. If it's a bit expensive but nothing you can't get back after a few months of work then screw it, just go.

I don't know if that's of any help but it's all I have because I was in a similar fix a few months ago and those are the thoughts I had.


Thanks. There's really nobody I already know there (and I won't risk having to travel very far on my own). There's not really much "once-in-a-lifetime-ness" in the opportunity. The good side of me knows that the only real special thing is being able to go with my parents, but I really can't factor out financial issues (I make less than $2000 in a month, which is actually a lot for people here). I have a large bucket list of things to buy when I have that much money to invest (the issue with this, however, is that my parents also lack the capability to understand what an additional monitor means to a programmer like me).

I still live with my parents until I hopefully get married in a couple years. (Well not exactly 'with', just that we live on different floors of a larger house.)

In the long run it seems to be "vacation" + "time with parents" vs "2 months worth of work". In the end it's just a vacation. I doubt a week there would do much in terms of networking or something like that... unless I get hired or something, which would be both impossible (need to stay here for various matters) and impossibly impossible (visa).
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby bigglesworth » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:53 pm UTC

I think that in declining things like this it's important that you can come up with some sort of viable alternative.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Steax » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:59 pm UTC

I guess that would be... a longer vacation with more family members. $2000 of that is for the flight alone, and I can't help but feel that'd be better used for a longer vacation (if possible, to visit my old hometown).

The other issue I'm concerned about is that my SO's holiday takes place during the same week, and I really don't want to leave during that time. This is probably a far more volatile issue to deal with, however...
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Sytri » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:12 pm UTC

I'd better get my pay rise! I am the best at what I do in my department and I'm being paid the least because other people are crap at saying I should be paid more! I have people working in another part of the country who do the same job as me just not as well being paid ~4k more because they have better managers!

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby podbaydoor » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:01 pm UTC

Someone just said that I should stop calling myself a skeptic because I objected to him saying that "we should kill them." Them being all police officers.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:02 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Someone just said that I should stop calling myself a skeptic because I objected to him saying that "we should kill them." Them being all police officers.
How are those related, exactly..?
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby bigglesworth » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:03 pm UTC

If that person has any prominence in the community then that would seem like quite a good reason not to call yourself a Skeptic.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby podbaydoor » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:09 pm UTC

Most of the people in the thread, I think, are members of an atheist/skeptic community in Missouri. In the thread, after the "we should kill them" remark, there was a pile of people declaring how police are all thugs, there are no good ones, comparing them to Crips, etc. etc. ("I've never met a good cop, but I've heard rumors of their existence. Sort of like Bigfoot.")

I expressed disgust at the death threat and also at the apparent refusal to entertain or gather any information that might contradict their narrative, and asked how skeptics could use such inflammatory, demagogue-like language. The OP then called me "harsh" and "hysterical" and said that I refused to have a rational discussion. I replied that it was not a rational discussion as long as he said things like "we should kill them." He responded by telling me, "You are a poor skeptic. You are not willing to entertain ideas that do not fit into your worldview" and then suggested I should stop "speaking out as a skeptic."

The thing that irks me the most is that I would have agreed entirely that the police system is subject to abuse, corruption, and lack of oversight, and so on. But when the rhetoric includes death threats against the people I have spoken to and worked with, I tend to take issue with that. Apparently that makes me a bad skeptic, for not liking death threats. And also for having met good cops.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Ghostbear » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:22 pm UTC

It seems to me you were called a poor skeptic for expressing skepticism at their claims, which would be a bit.. well.. stupid (and hypocritical), on their behalf.

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Postby podbaydoor » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:27 pm UTC

That was what struck me as the most ridiculous about the discussion. I don't like losing respect for people I previously liked. But...
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Zarq » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:01 pm UTC

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Now, I don't have a problem with it. The only thing I ever wanted to use it for was for reading ebooks, and that works. But it frustrates me nonetheless.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Kang » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:56 pm UTC

podbaydoor wrote:Most of the people in the thread, I think, are members of an atheist/skeptic community in Missouri. In the thread, after the "we should kill them" remark, there was a pile of people declaring how police are all thugs, there are no good ones, comparing them to Crips, etc. etc. ("I've never met a good cop, but I've heard rumors of their existence. Sort of like Bigfoot.")

I expressed disgust at the death threat and also at the apparent refusal to entertain or gather any information that might contradict their narrative, and asked how skeptics could use such inflammatory, demagogue-like language. The OP then called me "harsh" and "hysterical" and said that I refused to have a rational discussion. I replied that it was not a rational discussion as long as he said things like "we should kill them." He responded by telling me, "You are a poor skeptic. You are not willing to entertain ideas that do not fit into your worldview" and then suggested I should stop "speaking out as a skeptic."

The thing that irks me the most is that I would have agreed entirely that the police system is subject to abuse, corruption, and lack of oversight, and so on. But when the rhetoric includes death threats against the people I have spoken to and worked with, I tend to take issue with that. Apparently that makes me a bad skeptic, for not liking death threats. And also for having met good cops.

So basically they are conspiracy theorists? Because that's exactly what pretty much all of those have in common, the 'question the official version and make up your own mind, but don't ever question my fairly sketchy logic' approach.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby lucrezaborgia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:16 pm UTC

The Ginger Bastard will only be affectionate with me if I carry him. Otherwise he ignores me totally for his slave, my fiance. Even "my" cat now ignores me for him!!! :evil:

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Postby TimelordSimone » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:31 pm UTC

At least the cats don't hide behind books when you're taking photos of them.
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Postby lucrezaborgia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:34 pm UTC

TimelordSimone wrote:At least the cats don't hide behind books when you're taking photos of them.


This was a stealth photo. :P

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby jawdisorder » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:34 pm UTC

my friend Catherine always insists on being between my face and the book whenever I'm reading. Reading is considerably harder through a cat.

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Postby Xeio » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:02 pm UTC

I found out something strange when I was home for christmas. My family's cat (my friend Catherine, he loves me most knows I'm the most comfortable warm body who will give him attention and let him sleep on my lap) will only sit on my lap if I sit in on the left hand side of the couch.

I used to sit there all the time with my computer on the end table, but my sister stole that spot while I was home this time.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby lucrezaborgia » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:06 pm UTC

Ginger Bastard: I will ignore you all the time...except when you carry me and when you are on the toilet!

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby podbaydoor » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 am UTC

And now the guy in that thread has called me "childish." I'm officially done.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby mochafairy » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:57 pm UTC

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