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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby phlip » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:32 am UTC

I don't know how much this generalises, but with video games at least, the theory is that, around 10 years ago, US$1 was worth nearly A$2, and so a game that cost US$40 would cost around A$90 here, after currency changes, import costs, and GST. And then when the Australian dollar recovered (or, more accurately, when the US dollar tanked in 2008 and the Australian dollar didn't tank quite as much) and the two dollars became close to equal... they kept the price difference, because people were still buying them. So it's still the case that a game that costs US$50 or 60 will cost A$100 or 110 here, even back when the Australian dollar was worth more than the US dollar.

And in general, that mentality is around in a lot of things... when circumstances push the prices up, they go up quickly, but when circumstances push the prices down, they fall as slow as they can get away with.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby gmalivuk » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:52 pm UTC

I haven't bought a physical book in quite a while, but do the ones sold in North America still come listed with a Canadian price that's a few dollars more than the US price? That's likely the same sort of thing, from back when the CAD was a good chunk less than the USD.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby ahammel » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:I haven't bought a physical book in quite a while, but do the ones sold in North America still come listed with a Canadian price that's a few dollars more than the US price? That's likely the same sort of thing, from back when the CAD was a good chunk less than the USD.
Allow me to quote from the backs of some books I just bought:

£7.99
Can $17.95
[Actual value of GBP 7.99: CAD 13.29]
£9.99
Can $18.00
[Actual value of GBP 9.99: CAD 16.62]
U.S.A. $6.95
Can $9.95
[Actual value of USD 6.95: CAD 7.15]

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Postby gmalivuk » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:17 pm UTC

If something's actually printed in the UK, I'm more understanding of an inflated North American price, because it does cost more to ship here than within the UK. It's the US/Canadian prices that are most ridiculous, since shipping to Canada isn't in my experience significantly more expensive than shipping a similar distance within the US, except when there are tariffs or other actual taxes involved.
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Postby ahammel » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:40 pm UTC

In this particular case, the one that was printed in New York somehow contrives to have a more inflated Canadian prices (about 139% of the exchange rate) than either of the UK ones,the Atlantic ocean and NAFTA notwithstanding.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby poxic » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:21 pm UTC

Canadians buy lots of books, so I guess they figure they'll use us to subsidize their American market. (Last time I heard a statistic, Canadians bought books at 80% the volume of USAians. Since we're 10% of the population, that means we buy 8x as many books per capita.)
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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:53 pm UTC

Just after the US and Canadian dollars hit parity, one of the major book sellers here (I want to sat Coles?) started honouring the US prices printed on books, on the basis that the prices were set with an expected exchange rate of about CDN$0.70 to the dollar. It didn't seem to do them much harm, and it was a pretty popular move, but now that they've had time to readjust the Canadian-gouging prices to be a little closer to the US ones, they've stopped doing that again. Bastards.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:41 am UTC

poxic wrote:Canadians buy lots of books, so I guess they figure they'll use us to subsidize their American market. (Last time I heard a statistic, Canadians bought books at 80% the volume of USAians. Since we're 10% of the population, that means we buy 8x as many books per capita.)

That is a significant difference.
If true. If true and it might be true.
What does that mean?

Do a few Canadians buy a great many books and keep them as trophies?
Do Canadians read? Do they read the same kinds of books other Canadians read?

Do Canadians turn all machines off and curl up with fifty of their best friends and read?
I know a little about reading. People that read, often have something to say.

A great many Americans act as if they are frightened to read.
I remember being frightened to read, aloud. Still, am.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby ahammel » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:39 am UTC

addams wrote:Do Canadians read? Do they read the same kinds of books other Canadians read?

It is a right of passage as a Canadian to buy a Margaret Atwood book, read about half of it, discover that it's awful, and sell it to a used bookstore.
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Postby poxic » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:39 am UTC

Oy, she's not awful. Just a bit prim.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:46 pm UTC

You both read the same book.
That is funny. Good you.

You did not have to like it.
You had a duty to give it a 'shot'.

Dutiful Canadians.... How nice.
Rant Thread!

I have a Rant on my mind and No One in 3D that can understand it.
I am not sure I understand it.

What did I see? A City Person that has landed in The Sticks?
What are City People like? They see more than three trees in one place and decide it is Wilderness Land?
Is that true? She said, "That is compost." I said, "No, it's not."

Compost is a country thing. It is also a form of Trash.
Science! Keep records! What would you find?

This dirt was yummy.
This dirt fractaled into food that followed one path to becoming human shit and on to becoming dirt, again.
This dirt fractaled into trash that followed another path to becoming compost and on to becoming dirt, again.

It is a time and place issue. It is a house keeping issue.
What did I see? Kitchen Trash thrown outside a kitchen window.

That makes so much sense if there are chickens.
If you do not have chickens;
Or, If you do not want the chickens hanging around the kitchen window then Compost needs a little more lab work before use in the flower bed.

What?? Am I like a Church lady with a the bible replaced by a biology book? How stupid it that?

I was mildly offended. I don't know what kind of offended to be.
Is she a city girl transplanted into such a remote place, she thinks she is in The Wilderness?

There is a Wilderness not far from here. Inside that Wilderness, raw compost can be a Capital Crime.
The Bear are Bastards. Not all Black Bear are Bastards. Some are.

I asked. Don't you ask? "What is this?" "Compost.", was her first answer. I said, "Nope. Not, compost."
Like a child, she made another guess. "I am feeding, 'them'." I answered that with a "This is not good for them."

The bear would like it. The bear are not in town. She said she was feeding The Skunk! What is she thinking?!
I understand the thrill of seeing a shy notional animal. Skunk are common. So are Opossim.

When skunk and opossum have a bloody religious War outside the Kitchen window, it is a memorable event even for non-believers.
A skunk can stink up a 1 mile radius.

What did I see? A country person transplanted into a city? Maybe. Maybe her mother and aunts had chickens.
Maybe. Maybe, not.

I was not interested in Trash. Trash is interesting.
It needs to mature a bit to become note worthy.

It is the time of year for everyone to review the FOUR!
The godspells according to The Chemists.

Xanthophil=yellow.
Carotine=orange.
Anthocyanine=(2 step) red/purple.
Chloraphile=green.

Are you ready to take the test?
Every fall; Learn about the leaves.

Every year a little more. Then, out of the blue.
Nothing happens. More yellow, More orange, More red/purple, More green.

As long as I am boring no one in particular; Do you know the Anthocyanine, two step?
Temperature dependent. correct?

Those silly plant genetics people can turn genes on and off like the flip of a light switch.
I have no idea how they do it. They do it.

Black corn. There really is such a thing.
Seeds from some black corn will produce black corn.
Seeds from other black corn will produce a 1/4 black corn.

Corn likes to be what color? What color is wild corn?
What color was corn when we started messing around with it?

Black? We have gone full circle? ech. the people are busy watching the indy 500.
Who has time for plants? Composers?

Rant? Against the Night? Against the dying of The Light?
Rant? Ranting is not going to help. Laughter might help.

We are all stupid.
Some people come into the country and shoot everything up, because it is the fruit of a lifelong dream.
Some people come into the country to feed wild animals and become One with nature.

Some animals really like people meat.
Feeding wild animals is fun.

Pigions like corn.
Crow and seagull like cat food.
Everything likes cat food.

Skunk will pass up compost in favor of cat food.
Opossum will pass up compost in favor of cat food.
Cats like it. Dogs like it. Bear seem to like it, too.

Deer and Elk don't like cat food. They like apples and roses.

EDIT: Rant? What else can be done?
What I saw! With my own eyes.

If I had a camera, I would have taken photos.
No one cares, anyway.

ok. I was not minding my own business.
I am curious about People. They are a Great show.

Hate to admit what I was doing.
I don't have four wheel drive.

It is bad to get stuck.
It may be bad to do what I saw someone doing.

I was not sure what it was. So I went to see.
I asked, "What ya' doing." There was so much shit laying around.

This was out in a truck-trailer turn around.
Once I got near enough I could tell what that stuff was.

There was an axle, set of brakes, oil, old fashioned tire iron....stuff.
The owner/operator was indigent that I would notice? Hard not to notice.

That person was pretty big. Bigger than I am. She is woman.
She picked up the axle and went 'after' me.

So funny. In retrospect. At the time, I was surprised.
What is wrong with our people? Mass Hypnosis? What kind?

I have no idea what her backstory might be.
She changed out the plates on her rig.

She gave me her old plates, before she decided she did not like me.
One moment she wanted to throw all that stuff away.

The next moment she was willing to defend her rights to my death.
So, funny. People!

I am willing to consider, 'It might be me.'
I am starting to consider very strongly, 'The fault may not lie with me.'

Who raised these people? The TV? It seems the TV may be a worse parent than none at all.
Will a Mantra help?
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It is never too late to have a happy childhood.

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Be childlike; Not childish.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:07 pm UTC

was going to hang out with best friend tonight
got dumped for some anonymous boy that she's going to hang out with
i wouldn't be so irritated but she's done this multiple times
she lies to her mom about staying at another friend's house when in reality she goes and smokes pot/gets drunk
she needs to slow the fuck down before she hurts herself
i don't know if i should sit her down and talk to her or tell an adult (we're both 16)
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Yakk » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:08 pm UTC

Canadians buy or borrow (from libraries) 2.7 million books/week (approx). 1.6 billion$ in consumer books, not counting school books. (roughly 2005 ish) -- http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1290026005961/1290026005964

Approx 40% of book sales are school books (?! -- 40$ of 1.3 billion local books), so total sales are are 2.1-2.6 billion $ (depending if there are non-locally published school books being sold in similar proportions to locally published).

US book sales are ~7.1 billion$ -- http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/11 ... h-20130411 .

That is 29%-37% of the US market, not 80%.

As an interesting aside, Quebec reads a *lot*.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Wednesday » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:36 pm UTC

WilliamTheConqueror wrote:was going to hang out with best friend tonight
got dumped for some anonymous boy that she's going to hang out with
i wouldn't be so irritated but she's done this multiple times
she lies to her mom about staying at another friend's house when in reality she goes and smokes pot/gets drunk
she needs to slow the fuck down before she hurts herself
i don't know if i should sit her down and talk to her or tell an adult (we're both 16)
ugh

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Spoiler:
Talk to her, wait to see if she takes your concern to heart. If yes, skip talking to anyone older than you because fuck that. If no, talk to a teacher you think she's on good terms with before a parent - the former are likely to be a better objective judge as to whether or not involving her parents would do her more harm than good. Teachers also see a lot more of their kids than the kids' parents do and probably know them better.
Are you actually worried about the girl because she's not making great decisions, or because she's dumped you to hang out with another dude a couple of times? This may seem like a shitty, shallow question, but I'd take a hard look at it before telling anyone with authority over her, as the act of doing so would probably obliterate your friendship for a while. Bintheredunthat, not a great time, worth it to protect the health of my friend.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:15 pm UTC

WilliamTheConqueror wrote:was going to hang out with best friend tonight
got dumped for some anonymous boy that she's going to hang out with
i wouldn't be so irritated but she's done this multiple times
she lies to her mom about staying at another friend's house when in reality she goes and smokes pot/gets drunk
she needs to slow the fuck down before she hurts herself
i don't know if i should sit her down and talk to her or tell an adult (we're both 16)
ugh

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Read a book.

You have captured our imaginations.
More Advice. (shrug)
Spoiler:
I was always and forever getting dumped for that sort of thing.
ech. She does not introduce you to the men she fucks? ech.

What do you think you would talk about? Is he fucking her wrong?
Best friend? How long have you known her?

If you grew up together, then you have responsibilities to her, her family, friends you have in common and Dee, the lady at the store.
Tell them all. If you grew up together, then this is a heavy burden. Tell Dee. Ask her who to tell, next. Dee is smart. She knows about people.

Of course, you Have To tell your Mom.
Your heart is heavy. That is what Moms are for.

Hold onto your hat. What if you find out Your Mom is hanging out with Anonymous Boy, too?

Is talking with your hands to the forum at xkcd like practicing to talk to your Mom?
oh. Word to the wise; When you talk to people about this, try to hold one of their hands.
If they have hands. It is so ok to need a little hand holding.

You are sixteen.
Your best friend my be showing symptoms of Developmental Schizophrenia.

That explains so much about Human Beings.
There was a series of papers. I listened to and spoke to at least one of the authors.

It was a great series. The conclusion? Doesn't everyone know? Maybe, not. (shrug)
The Conclusion:
30% of all Human Beings between the ages of 15 and 25 are clinically insane.
It seems insane is fairly normal for that age group.

This Developmental Schizophrenia seems to be a symptom of brain development.
It is like an 11 year old boy that is clumsy. Weird, but normal. (and kind of funny.)

30% means that of your ten closest friends, 3 will develop symptoms.
Because, there is a transitory nature to this thing.
Spoiler:
(More studies need to be done. those crazy fucks are interesting)

Because there is a transitory nature to this thing, the number of persons that will have symptoms goes from 30% to nearly 100%.

How funny is That? I love that! It explains so much!
Teenagers don't Act like they are Crazy.
Teenagers ARE Crazy.
How fun!

Sixteen years old. Beautiful and Strange.
Who? You? Your best friend? Anonymous Boy?

How old is he? Is he over 25?
Under? If he is under 25 and getting laid regularly, he may not be interested in treatment.
Good thing. There is no treatment.

Tell your Mom you are nuts. She will understand.
You got it from her side of the Family. The Human Family!
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby WilliamTheConqueror » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:53 pm UTC

Wednesday wrote:
WilliamTheConqueror wrote:was going to hang out with best friend tonight
got dumped for some anonymous boy that she's going to hang out with
i wouldn't be so irritated but she's done this multiple times
she lies to her mom about staying at another friend's house when in reality she goes and smokes pot/gets drunk
she needs to slow the fuck down before she hurts herself
i don't know if i should sit her down and talk to her or tell an adult (we're both 16)
ugh

Unsolicited advice:
Spoiler:
Talk to her, wait to see if she takes your concern to heart. If yes, skip talking to anyone older than you because fuck that. If no, talk to a teacher you think she's on good terms with before a parent - the former are likely to be a better objective judge as to whether or not involving her parents would do her more harm than good. Teachers also see a lot more of their kids than the kids' parents do and probably know them better.
Are you actually worried about the girl because she's not making great decisions, or because she's dumped you to hang out with another dude a couple of times? This may seem like a shitty, shallow question, but I'd take a hard look at it before telling anyone with authority over her, as the act of doing so would probably obliterate your friendship for a while. Bintheredunthat, not a great time, worth it to protect the health of my friend.


I'm really worried about her because she's making not great decisions. i couldn't care less about the ditching thing except it's going on in conjunction with all of the shit she's been doing lately. she seems to do this every time she breaks up with someone which again, makes me really worried. i really really care about her, and idk i just don't want her to get hurt/hurt herself past the point of no return.
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:25 pm UTC

I suppose the problem I'm having (and Wednesday too) is that we don't know how much is too much.

Sneaking out, splitting a joint with someone, drinking a beer or two and talking about the stupid things you talk about when you're high for a few hours? That's fine.

Sneaking out, smoking an ounce and drinking most of a case of beer? That's.. not good. Not good at all.

Given your concern, I'm assuming it's somewhere in the middle.

Anyway, yeah - talk to her about it. Go with some adult she actually respects, her parents are likely to do the wrong thing for the right reasons and that never has good results at the time, just results that someone thinks about in their mid 20s or something, when they haven't spoken to their parents in 5+ years.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby beojan » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:15 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:If something's actually printed in the UK, I'm more understanding of an inflated North American price, because it does cost more to ship here than within the UK. It's the US/Canadian prices that are most ridiculous, since shipping to Canada isn't in my experience significantly more expensive than shipping a similar distance within the US, except when there are tariffs or other actual taxes involved.


Prices in the UK are quoted including VAT (sales tax) at 20%, while I believe sales tax would be added on top of the US or Canadian prices.
Also, in general, it appears companies just change the currency sign, and leave the number the same when converting a US price to a UK price.

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Postby SurgicalSteel » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:54 pm UTC

beojan wrote:while I believe sales tax would be added on top of the US or Canadian prices.
Also, in general, it appears companies just change the currency sign, and leave the number the same when converting a US price to a UK price.
This is true for the US at least. Sales tax is almost never included in the sticker price. If something is labelled "$5.00" you're going to actually pay between $5.00 and $5.50 depending on what state and/or city you're in.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Mapar » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:03 pm UTC

Fuck fuck fuck why did I get teamed up with two lazy fucks for this project. "I don't understand vector calculus" is not a fucking excuse. "I'm too busy to study" isn't either. I have a comparable amount of classes and homework and yet I find time to go visit my SO who lives 2h from here several times a week AND do the bulk of the project work.

Damn, get your shit together, will ya.


Sorry for cluttering up the thread with my pettiness, but I needed to vent a little.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Zarq » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:18 pm UTC

Mapar wrote: "I'm too busy to study" isn't either. I have a comparable amount of classes and homework and yet I find time to go visit my SO who lives 2h from here several times a week AND do the bulk of the project work.


I've got a project partner like that. He says he doesn't have a lot of time to do project work because he's writing 2 webapps for people. Unless you're paying us part of the money you're earning doing that, that's not our problem and you should put in your fair share.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Jave D » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:06 am UTC

My butt. It hurts.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:32 am UTC

Jave D wrote:My butt. It hurts.

Bragging?
Confessing?
Or; Complaining?

Not enough information for me to be able to tell.
Do we need to know? Is it a cautionary tail?
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby eran_rathan » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:47 am UTC

addams wrote:
Jave D wrote:My butt. It hurts.

Bragging?
Confessing?
Or; Complaining?

Not enough information for me to be able to tell.
Do we need to know? Is it a cautionary tail?


this made me lol.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby bigglesworth » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:43 pm UTC

That was possibly one of the greatest posts on this forum.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:15 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:That was possibly one of the greatest posts on this forum.

Thank you.

Ranting and Panting?
I don't have a date for Halloween!

Ranting is about anger.
I am not angry.
I am freaked out, about it.

(this might be the wrong forum, within the forum.)
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Why? Why does it matter?
I am not in a city. Cities can be extraoodarly dangerous to both body and mind on Halloween.

Europeans may not be able to understand my trepidation.
!They live with that stuff; !All The Time!

In the wilderness each day is not Halloween nor is it Halloween.
If there is no calendar.

If there is no way to tell one day from a different day, then the whole Season becomes Halloween.
Somedays more Halloweeny than other days.

Have you ever seen the Fog? Fog forms in the Fall. It gets cold in the North.
In the far off long ago days, The Deaths Began in The Fall. jeeze.

I am such a country bumpkin. I don't like Halloween Raves much.
Still; A public Celebration? Normal people like Christmas. I like Halloween.

It is Christmas with a bunch of Strangers stopping by for desert.
!I Like It!

I don't like it with those HomeLand Security Guys and their fifty best friends.
I don't like those guys much. I liked one of them. He did not like me. Poor me.

I think I need group therapy. That is what parties are, for me. The ones I like.
We go into the world or we stay put and explore.

I am an Adult! I can reach the top of the counter! yeah!
Exploring The Kitchen! What a fun game.
Do it by candle light. I like to play that game.

Adult supervision required.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Rodion Raskolnikov » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:47 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:That was possibly one of the greatest posts on this forum.


I lol'd. Out loud.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Cytoplasm » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:00 pm UTC

I'm hungry... and I still need to find fun Halloween party games for adults. Although I wonder if I should still bother since people will likely be too intoxicated to care.

Edit: Not a rant; wrong thread. Oops.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Pingouin7 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:36 pm UTC

Rodion Raskolnikov wrote:
bigglesworth wrote:That was possibly one of the greatest posts on this forum.


I lol'd. Out loud.

I laughed out loud out loud too.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:18 pm UTC

addams wrote:I don't have a date for Halloween!
October 31st, typically.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Yakk » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:21 pm UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Pfhorrest » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:48 pm UTC

TIL Christmas is Halloween because DEC 25 = OCT 31.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby DSenette » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:54 pm UTC

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:10 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
addams wrote:I don't have a date for Halloween!
October 31st, typically.

Soooo misunderstood.
again.

I'll be under the bed.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:21 pm UTC

Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:
Enuja wrote:Banks aren't usually instant. Even if you deposit the check the same day, it might not be posted that day. And you should certainly be able to mail your check to your bank, which takes a few days. If a business cuts a check, they need to make sure the money to cover that check is in that account, until and unless that check has an expiration date on it. And the expiration date (to not be an asshole) should be at least 30 days from the date of of the check. Your boss is an irresponsible, unprofessional asshole, and Yakk is exactly right. Please rant away: there is no excuse for your boss's behavior.

thanks guys.

i would totally get a different job, if i had options. at this point, well, i would be starting off from scratch. no college degree, only work experience i have is at this place. while i might be extremely skilled, how is a new employer to know that right off the bat?

its either that mess or apply at the local starbucks and compete with the other thousands of college age kids looking for jobs. a battle which is unlikely to be won.


Are there any agencies/recruiters specialising in IT in your area? (IIRC you work in IT?) The good ones will give you (free) career counselling, and help with things like résumé writing and interview prep. Some will probably also offer training, although that won't likely be free. And then it's basically their job to find you a job. It may mean contract (long- or short-term) work for a while, and you need to do due diligence on the agency itself, but it's definitely not a bad option for someone in the circumstances you describe.
Caveat: I have no idea how this would work (or even if it exists) in the US; my experience is exclusively with Australia and Japan.

You may also want to look at professional certification (MS, Cisco, Comptia, etc.) it isn't the be all and end all, but having it is better than not, and shows a potential employer that you have at least some skills.

thats really really helpful i did not even think to do that! thanks :D

also, i investigated my money issues. turns out my boss is changing quite a few things in the company, upsetting balances here and there. when i asked him about it he apologized profusely and hinted that business is going up, and i may even get a raise. also said something pretty vague about how valuable i am to the company and that he would keep it in mind, SO i might even get promoted. so yay.

also, in other news, i think i have decided my path out. if at all possible, if this job collapses, its probably navy IT for me.

i was hesitant at first, but if its possible, i wanna get stationed on the USS Zumwalt, because well, FLOATING DATA CENTER. its awesome. lead by none other than captain kirk? YES.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Jave D » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:08 am UTC

I need my income to be about 250% of what it is in about 5 months.

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby addams » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:07 am UTC

Tomlidich the second wrote:
Suzaku wrote:
Tomlidich the second wrote:
Enuja wrote:Banks aren't usually instant. Even if you deposit the check the same day, it might not be posted that day. And you should certainly be able to mail your check to your bank, which takes a few days. If a business cuts a check, they need to make sure the money to cover that check is in that account, until and unless that check has an expiration date on it. And the expiration date (to not be an asshole) should be at least 30 days from the date of of the check. Your boss is an irresponsible, unprofessional asshole, and Yakk is exactly right. Please rant away: there is no excuse for your boss's behavior.

thanks guys.

i would totally get a different job, if i had options. at this point, well, i would be starting off from scratch. no college degree, only work experience i have is at this place. while i might be extremely skilled, how is a new employer to know that right off the bat?

its either that mess or apply at the local starbucks and compete with the other thousands of college age kids looking for jobs. a battle which is unlikely to be won.


Are there any agencies/recruiters specialising in IT in your area? (IIRC you work in IT?) The good ones will give you (free) career counselling, and help with things like résumé writing and interview prep. Some will probably also offer training, although that won't likely be free. And then it's basically their job to find you a job. It may mean contract (long- or short-term) work for a while, and you need to do due diligence on the agency itself, but it's definitely not a bad option for someone in the circumstances you describe.
Caveat: I have no idea how this would work (or even if it exists) in the US; my experience is exclusively with Australia and Japan.

You may also want to look at professional certification (MS, Cisco, Comptia, etc.) it isn't the be all and end all, but having it is better than not, and shows a potential employer that you have at least some skills.

thats really really helpful i did not even think to do that! thanks :D

also, i investigated my money issues. turns out my boss is changing quite a few things in the company, upsetting balances here and there. when i asked him about it he apologized profusely and hinted that business is going up, and i may even get a raise. also said something pretty vague about how valuable i am to the company and that he would keep it in mind, SO i might even get promoted. so yay.

also, in other news, i think i have decided my path out. if at all possible, if this job collapses, its probably navy IT for me.

i was hesitant at first, but if its possible, i wanna get stationed on the USS Zumwalt, because well, FLOATING DATA CENTER. its awesome. lead by none other than captain kirk? YES.

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Proceed with great caution.

I feel like writing about it.
You don't have to read it.

Spoiler:
If someone tells you that you can serve on That Ship, then go to an Attorney.
Sometimes, those guys can be worth their weight in gold.

I have heard stories of, "They told me this." "They told me that."
An attorney can explain what you can realistically expect from the Navy.
An attorney can monitor your progress.

If anything goes Not according to plan, the attorney can fix it for you using both the military and civilian courts.
Plus; The attorney gets paid by the Navy, for doing the work. It is good for the Navy for civilians to hold them to their word.

The base pay is not real good in the beginning. (shrug)
If you do your job right and take classes, there is not that much time for spending money.

What are you going to spend money on while on a boat, anyway?
Have you ever been on a boat? That is a big boat.

We need good men and women inside our military.
Not all men and women that get a cute little uniform are good persons.

It has been said, and there is some truth to it, "Military service produces mature adults."
Not all service is the same. Not all of our men and women are first class people upon arrival at basic.

That is a Huge problem.
You have many things to think about.

There is nothing wrong with thinking about Manning.
What if? What if you came into information about your shipmates?

It is a Hypothetical. Still; What will you do? What do you want to do?
If you find your shipmates have Traditions of their very own?

What kind of Traditions? Taking civilians prisoner.
Torture, sex without consent, murder for entertainment.
You know; Informal Traditions.

What do you do?
What would I like you to do?

Use your little fingers and send a mass mailing.
The names and SS#'s of as many individuals as possible.
Any evidence. Dipassioned decriptions of what you know and how you know it.

To whom it may concern; The digital age allows for mass mailings.
Your attorney.
Your supervising officer.
The New York Times.
Britain's Guardian.
Lord Sugar.
The Office of the President of the US.
XKCD! You have Got to tell us.

Who else? Don't tell your mom.
If you live, you can tell her while on leave.

It is possible to have an honorable and fun life in the Navy.
Those people are like a bunch of Confucius Devotees, sometimes.

They have a Test for everything.
If you take the class and take the test, then you don't get a little bar thing like the Army guys.

If you fall into water wearing a bunch of bars you might sink.
The Navy created the tests for the Merchant Marines and the Marines, too.

The Navy is the brains of the water.
Air Force is the brains of the air.

Army? I don't want to talk about it.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Sytri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:09 am UTC

The winter months are not going to be good for me. I have to commute to work, an hour each way, and I get pretty bad road rage. My problem is that I now have to force myself to remain calm whilst doing ~70mph on the motorways as it's dark, damp and other motorists seemingly don't know how to
A: Indicate.
B: Move into the inside lane when not overtaking.
C: Not tailgate at high speed.
D: Not wildly pull out into a different lane when there's a cars-length gap (where two car-lengths are needed for emergency braking; at least).
E: Not use the fog lights on their cars when it isn't foggy, but just dark.
F: Not accelerate to beside my car and then maintain that speed, forcing me to either speed up or brake and go round when I need to overtake a car in my own lane.

There's been others but I can't remember them at the moment.

I have to remain calm because getting angry will up my chances of a crash and I really would rather not.

(All the above happened to me on one 40 mile journey to work this morning.)

I feel like I'll give myself an ulcer unless people remember how they were taught to drive and soon.
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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Pingouin7 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:40 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:TIL Christmas is Halloween because DEC 25 = OCT 31.

My brain just melted.
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Kewangji wrote:I confess I am actually scared of peanuts, and tend to avoid them, given how lethal they are to some people.

I'm not. I do my part in the fight against peanuts by destroying them with my powerful teeth. Take that peanut! How does being digested feel!?

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Re: Pant Thread (because we need more panting)

Postby Tomlidich the second » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:12 pm UTC

addams wrote:There is nothing wrong with thinking about Manning.
What if? What if you came into information about your shipmates?

It is a Hypothetical. Still; What will you do? What do you want to do?
If you find your shipmates have Traditions of their very own?

What kind of Traditions? Taking civilians prisoner.
Torture, sex without consent, murder for entertainment.
You know; Informal Traditions.

What do you do?
What would I like you to do?

Use your little fingers and send a mass mailing.
The names and SS#'s of as many individuals as possible.
Any evidence. Dipassioned decriptions of what you know and how you know it.

To whom it may concern; The digital age allows for mass mailings.
Your attorney.
Your supervising officer.
The New York Times.
Britain's Guardian.
Lord Sugar.
The Office of the President of the US.
XKCD! You have Got to tell us.

Who else? Don't tell your mom.
If you live, you can tell her while on leave.


well, i would have to come across something absolutely atrocious to endanger myself that. though i suppose if it were the right thing to do, i would do it. of course, that would technically make me a traitor to my country. there is a need for secrecy in a modern military, and information leaks can get good people killed.
i know some navy guys, crypto, retired now. but their adivce on such things is "tread lightly"
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