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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:14 pm UTC

Then you learned the wrong lesson.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby roband » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:04 pm UTC

Hahaha. Before today I totally thought that the idea of Canadians saying "oot" or "aboot" was a joke started by Americans.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:42 pm UTC

I still can't tell the difference between American and Canadian accents. More and more, I find myself convinced that they're actually speaking in exactly the same accent, and they're just telling us otherwise to fuck with our heads.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby roband » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:50 pm UTC

Well, the Canadian who made me realise has very distinct "oo" noises

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby emceng » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:54 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:I still can't tell the difference between American and Canadian accents. More and more, I find myself convinced that they're actually speaking in exactly the same accent, and they're just telling us otherwise to fuck with our heads.


That's because depending on where you are, they're similar. Compare Boston, to Texas, to Omaha, and you see significant differences. Compare Omaha to Des Moines, not much. Northern states like Minnnesota have people that sound similar to Canadians(see Fargo).

In short, yes, they're not that different.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby yurell » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:00 pm UTC

It's like people mixing up Aussie and Kiwi accents — on the broad range of accents they're not that different, but chances are that if you're from either country you'll notice it fairly quickly.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby roband » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:03 pm UTC

I've never had issues with those. Aussies are fairly distinguishable, and Kiwis just sound like they randomly pick a vowel sound each time they have to use one! ;)

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:00 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:I still can't tell the difference between American and Canadian accents. More and more, I find myself convinced that they're actually speaking in exactly the same accent, and they're just telling us otherwise to fuck with our heads.

...

Which ones?
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Giant Speck » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:15 pm UTC

Oh, God. Not that map...
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:18 pm UTC

It's almost as fun as this one to help Europeans learn the scale of North America. Because sometimes they seem to think that Chicago and LA are as close as London and Paris. When it's more like London and Moscow.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Vieto » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:36 pm UTC

silly Europeans, Canadians don't have accents. :P

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby roband » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:37 pm UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Giant Speck » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:39 pm UTC

Actually, that one is pretty neat.

EDIT: Er, that was in reference to the map.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Daimon » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:42 pm UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:46 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:It's almost as fun as this one to help Europeans learn the scale of North America. Because sometimes they seem to think that Chicago and LA are as close as London and Paris. When it's more like London and Moscow.

To an American, 100 years is a long time. To a European, 100 miles is a long distance. We both have a screwed up sense of perspective one way or the other.

Edit: China on the other hand... they'd laugh at numbers as small as these. I seem to recall some Chinese official being asked recently what he thought the impact of the French revolution was. He answered "it's too soon to tell".
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby yurell » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:14 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:It's almost as fun as this one to help Europeans learn the scale of North America. Because sometimes they seem to think that Chicago and LA are as close as London and Paris. When it's more like London and Moscow.


Oh, the US is smaller than I thought.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby The Scyphozoa » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:25 am UTC

yurell wrote:It's like people mixing up Aussie and Kiwi accents — on the broad range of accents they're not that different, but chances are that if you're from either country you'll notice it fairly quickly.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Carlington » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:25 am UTC

yurell wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:It's almost as fun as this one to help Europeans learn the scale of North America. Because sometimes they seem to think that Chicago and LA are as close as London and Paris. When it's more like London and Moscow.


Oh, the US is smaller than I thought.

Yeah, that was my reaction, too.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby firechicago » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:55 am UTC

yurell wrote:
SexyTalon wrote:It's almost as fun as this one to help Europeans learn the scale of North America. Because sometimes they seem to think that Chicago and LA are as close as London and Paris. When it's more like London and Moscow.


Oh, the US is smaller than I thought.


Keep in mind, LA to Chicago is only about 2/3 of the way across the country. It's still another 7-800 miles on to New York.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby yurell » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:08 pm UTC

I was more thinking along the lines of:
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SuperTD » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:18 pm UTC

I learnt that de Broglie is pronounced "de Broi" as opposed to "de Bro-glee".
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Carlington » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:59 pm UTC

yurell wrote:I was more thinking along the lines of:
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Just rotating it in my mind, if you turned Australia in that image so the Bight lined up more evenly with the U.S-Mexico border, and Townsville, Cairns, Cooktown lined up with Washington, New York, Boston, respectively, there's only a negligible difference in size, once you account for Florida and Tasmania.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Adacore » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:13 pm UTC

Also, Alaska. But the basic fact remains that Australia is an awful lot bigger than I thought it was.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby yurell » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 pm UTC

Taking only the contiguous states, Australia is roughly the same size as the USA (~2.5% smaller). The other states bring that up to about 25%.

Still, I'd imagined the US as being a lot bigger; I've no idea why. This is what we get for always comparing sizes on maps which (by necessity) have major distortions. Oh well, it's a nice bit of education in TIL for me! ^.^
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Carlington » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:45 pm UTC

Adacore wrote:Also, Alaska. But the basic fact remains that Australia is an awful lot bigger than I thought it was.

There's a part of me that wants to make a mean joke aimed at Alaska and Hawaii, but there could be people from those states on here and I really just wanna make friends so maybe not.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:26 pm UTC

yurell wrote:Taking only the contiguous states, Australia is roughly the same size as the USA (~2.5% smaller). The other states bring that up to about 25%.

Still, I'd imagined the US as being a lot bigger; I've no idea why. This is what we get for always comparing sizes on maps which (by necessity) have major distortions. Oh well, it's a nice bit of education in TIL for me! ^.^
Australia and the continental US are about the same, mass-wise.

Population density, on the other hand... Australia doesn't have much in the Interior, the US is dense on the East, gets less dense as you go further west and kinda dies off at the Mississippi River, then picks up again when you hit the West Coast.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby steve waterman » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:42 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
yurell wrote:Taking only the contiguous states, Australia is roughly the same size as the USA (~2.5% smaller). The other states bring that up to about 25%.

Still, I'd imagined the US as being a lot bigger; I've no idea why. This is what we get for always comparing sizes on maps which (by necessity) have major distortions. Oh well, it's a nice bit of education in TIL for me! ^.^
Australia and the continental US are about the same, mass-wise.

Population density, on the other hand... Australia doesn't have much in the Interior, the US is dense on the East, gets less dense as you go further west and kinda dies off at the Mississippi River, then picks up again when you hit the West Coast.

Areas on this projection map are within 10 percent of areas on globe.
Antarctica is also the proper shape as many projections fail to replicate.
Notice the relative size of Greenland versus Africa or versus South America.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Shivahn » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:45 pm UTC

yurell wrote:Taking only the contiguous states, Australia is roughly the same size as the USA (~2.5% smaller). The other states bring that up to about 25%.

Still, I'd imagined the US as being a lot bigger; I've no idea why. This is what we get for always comparing sizes on maps which (by necessity) have major distortions. Oh well, it's a nice bit of education in TIL for me! ^.^

It MIGHT be because of the US' population centers vs Australia. This map seems to show that if you're traveling between two cities in Australia, you're probably not going further than 700ish miles. As SexyTalon pointed out, the US is not structured like that. You're likely to be traveling three thousand or so.

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Postby The Mighty Thesaurus » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:39 pm UTC

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby firechicago » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:44 pm UTC

Shivahn wrote:It MIGHT be because of the US' population centers vs Australia. This map seems to show that if you're traveling between two cities in Australia, you're probably not going further than 700ish miles. As SexyTalon pointed out, the US is not structured like that. You're likely to be traveling three thousand or so.

It's also about having a more even arrangement. Australia's population is heavily concentrated on the east and southeast coasts, with almost nothing in the interior, while even the relatively empty parts of America have significant population centers here and there. SecondTalon said that there's not much between between the Mississippi River and the west coast, which is true if you're comparing it to the Bos-Wash corridor or to the built-up parts of the west coast. But that "not much" includes at least one city in the same league (population-wise) with Sydney (Houston) and several cities with populations of several million in their metro area (Denver, Salt Lake, Las Vegas, etc.) and a whole bunch of lesser population centers (Omaha, Kansas City, etc.) So America feels like it has more space because we use more of it.

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Postby The Mighty Thesaurus » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:53 pm UTC

Here in Australia, we'd be more likely to call that "cluttered" than "spacious".
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby yurell » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:11 pm UTC

steve waterman wrote:Areas on this projection map are within 10 percent of areas on globe.
Antarctica is also the proper shape as many projections fail to replicate.
Notice the relative size of Greenland versus Africa or versus South America.
http://watermanpolyhedron.com/


I just noticed that your map projection looks a lot like the dymaxion one.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Radical_Initiator » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:26 pm UTC

yurell wrote:
steve waterman wrote:Areas on this projection map are within 10 percent of areas on globe.
Antarctica is also the proper shape as many projections fail to replicate.
Notice the relative size of Greenland versus Africa or versus South America.
http://watermanpolyhedron.com/


I just noticed that your map projection looks a lot like the dymaxion one.

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bigglesworth » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:27 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Edit: China on the other hand... they'd laugh at numbers as small as these. I seem to recall some Chinese official being asked recently what he thought the impact of the French revolution was. He answered "it's too soon to tell".
Eh, the written tradition of history is arguably older in the Greco-Roman tradition than it is for China, from what I have gathered.

I'd love to be proved wrong on this (or the opposite), since I've been having trouble getting the timelines straight in my head.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby firechicago » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:58 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Edit: China on the other hand... they'd laugh at numbers as small as these. I seem to recall some Chinese official being asked recently what he thought the impact of the French revolution was. He answered "it's too soon to tell".

I think that was Zhou Enlai. And people who were there say that in the context of the conversation it was clear he was referring to the general strike of 1968 (just a couple years before he made the remark), not the revolution of 1789.

http://mediamythalert.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/too-early-to-say-zhou-was-speaking-about-1968-not-1789/

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Re: Today I Learned

Postby bigglesworth » Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:24 am UTC

Huh... Today I learned that the general strike of 1968 was in fact 10 year after the inauguration of the Fifth Republic. I thought they were linked. :oops:
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Cathy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:21 am UTC

TIL that even though your brain is only about 3% of your body mass, it uses 20%-30% of your calories.

Therefore, going on a starvation diet literally makes you less intelligent.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Menacing Spike » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:06 am UTC

Cathy wrote:TIL that even though your brain is only about 3% of your body mass, it uses 20%-30% of your calories.

Therefore, going on a starvation diet literally makes you less intelligent.


You are working on the assumption that brain energy consumption is correlated to intelligence.

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Postby Shro » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:21 pm UTC

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Cathy wrote:TIL that even though your brain is only about 3% of your body mass, it uses 20%-30% of your calories.

Therefore, going on a starvation diet literally makes you less intelligent.


You are working on the assumption that brain energy consumption is correlated to intelligence.

It makes you "less intelligent" based on physiological requirements of the brain, regardless of intelligence. Not meeting the physiological requirements of your brain means it doesn't perform at the levels it can when it is properly nourished. Also: brain energy consumption is correlated to proper brain function.
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Re: Today I Learned

Postby Menacing Spike » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:45 pm UTC

Shro wrote:It makes you "less intelligent" based on physiological requirements of the brain, regardless of intelligence. Not meeting the physiological requirements of your brain means it doesn't perform at the levels it can when it is properly nourished. Also: brain energy consumption is correlated to proper brain function.


You: Less energy makes you stupid.
Me: Why?
You: Because less energy makes you stupid.

1) Do you have a citation on less energy reducing cognitive ability?

2) Do you have a citation on feeding less leading to reduced brain activity?


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