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Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:11 pm UTC
by roband
TIL what cognates are

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:16 pm UTC
by Zohar
roband wrote:TIL what cognates are

Same

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:35 pm UTC
by Flumble
Envelope Generator wrote:The words "brutal" and "guru" are cognates.

I... guess you wanted to know where the word "guru" comes from. I see no other way that you can learn that the two are cognates. :shock:
Anyway, it's a nice find. Funny to see how the PIE "weightly" got two very different connotations throughout the millennia.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:04 am UTC
by ucim
Zohar wrote:I don't think hovertext would bother anyone, unless it's very long and hides too much of the interface. Do you have any popups they need to approve, or messages that take a few seconds to disappear? Also you could just add a "show hints" button that toggles all of this on or off, with default being on.

No popups of that sort. I hate them, and am being nice to the internet. :) There are a few things that are important to understand before they jump in and choose the wrong thing (i.e. posting on a set of linked calendars, you need to know which other calendars will show this event, or the difference between "published" and "visible" profiles (one is googlable, the other is not)). These are important differences for those for whom privacy is important, who might otherwise not even join in the first place. I also have templating tools for creating an entire set of calendar entries at once.

Initial comment: "Setting up a calendar with a lot of entries is too tedious."
So, I created the template tools which make it drop dead easy, and had a popup identifying it, and a link to the help page describing it, with pictures, and circles and arrows on the front...
Subsequent comment: "Too much explaining. Just let people discover it."

Well, if they don't discover it, the calendar will be "too tedious" and people won't use it in the first place to discover the thermonuclear add button.

Gah!

Jose

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:50 am UTC
by applepi
I could never handle living alone, because I can't kill a spider to save my life!

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:36 am UTC
by Sableagle
At work on Thursday morning, I felt a tickling on my face, looked down and saw a large spider crawling across my left cheekbone towards my eye. Dislodging it took a few tries, then I picked it up and moved it out to the shrubbery, because the canteen is no place for a large spider.

The receptionist was very glad I went out via the side door and did not show her the spider.

I hope the spider's okay.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:47 pm UTC
by applepi
Sableagle wrote:At work on Thursday morning, I felt a tickling on my face, looked down and saw a large spider crawling across my left cheekbone towards my eye. Dislodging it took a few tries, then I picked it up and moved it out to the shrubbery, because the canteen is no place for a large spider.

The receptionist was very glad I went out via the side door and did not show her the spider.

I hope the spider's okay.

Oh my god, that sounds traumatizing. Congratulations on surviving. I'm sure the spider's okay. It's probably looking for another face to invade.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:58 am UTC
by addams
Zohar wrote:
roband wrote:TIL what cognates are

Same

Me, too.

oh, And, SpiderFace;
This is The Season.

I did not learn this Today.
Spoiler:
In the Pacific NorthWest in the Fall our large forest/garden spiders are exhibitionists and they are Every-fucking-Where.
Araneus diadematus
(Cross Orbweaver)
Summary
This spider is named for the pattern of white spots on the abdomen that form a cross in most specimens. Native to Europe, it was introduced to North America long ago. It spins the classic wheel-like orb web, usually sitting head-down in the hub (center), at night as well as during the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araneus_diadematus
It is extremely rare for this animal to bite a human.
This big scary looking spider is No Threat to humans.

It creates a large and beautiful web.
The web's beauty is exposed by rain or heavy fog.

(shrug) Thought you might like to know.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:35 am UTC
by Magnanimous
A spider has been living behind my toilet for the past few months. I never see anything caught in its web, but it's gotten larger so it must be eating something.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:16 am UTC
by applepi
That's fascinating for such a big spider is so peaceful. I just don't like bugs, so when I see these lil' guys scurrying with their fast lil' legs I'm completely freaked out.

Magnanimous wrote:A spider has been living behind my toilet for the past few months. I never see anything caught in its web, but it's gotten larger so it must be eating something.

Maybe there'd be a whole little party of other bugs, but your spider friend catches them before you have to.

Aw, man, that makes it sound kinda cute. He's your exterminator buddy.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:44 am UTC
by addams
TIL: Australia has a Pepto-Bismol lake.

It's a Pink Lake!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Hillier

oh, Australia...
Will you never run out of surprises??

***EDIT: Back to the subject of Spiders.
Once upon a time, I had one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agelenopsis

Spoilered because of chattering on and on in couplets.
Spoiler:
It was, kind of, like a pet.
It lived in my bathroom, next to the sink.

When I cleaned, he retreated into a crack between the sink and the wall.
I wiped his web away. He rebuilt it. Repeat.

I would watch him watch me, while I brushed my teeth.
I had roommates at the time. They could see the web.

Not one of them ever saw the spider, or would admit to it.
It was a subject of conversation. I refused to kill or evict him.

I kept the bathroom clean.
I forced him to build new clean webs.

Spider webs are a housekeeping task.
We each must find our own comfort zones.

Magnanimous; I think your bathroom spider is charming.
Because I had a bathroom spider of my own, once upon a time.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:12 am UTC
by strake
Pfhorrest wrote:
strake wrote:Kerrygold cheese is amazing.

What kind exactly?


I finally got some more, and it's simply called "Aged Cheddar".

addams wrote:It's a Pink Lake!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Hillier


In Gatineau Park, Québec is a lake called "Pink Lake".

It's green.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:41 am UTC
by roband
TIL that a Portuguese man o'war is not just an animal, but lots and lots of little animals all connected together.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:25 pm UTC
by applepi
Today, I learned that bug testing can turn into fooling around with your program, and having too much fun to actually make any REAL progress (but hey, it's still a learning experience ;) ).

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:10 pm UTC
by Whizbang
Yesterday I learned that a group of porcupine is a prickle.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:25 pm UTC
by Sableagle
addams wrote:
Spoiler:
In the Pacific NorthWest in the Fall our large forest/garden spiders are exhibitionists and they are Every-fucking-Where.
Araneus diadematus
(Cross Orbweaver)
Summary
This spider is named for the pattern of white spots on the abdomen that form a cross in most specimens. Native to Europe, it was introduced to North America long ago. It spins the classic wheel-like orb web, usually sitting head-down in the hub (center), at night as well as during the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araneus_diadematus
It is extremely rare for this animal to bite a human.
This big scary looking spider is No Threat to humans.

It creates a large and beautiful web.
The web's beauty is exposed by rain or heavy fog.

(shrug) Thought you might like to know.


Oh, yeah, we have those. "Garden Cross" because they have those pretty little "jewelled cross" patterns on their backs. Totally harmless unless you hold one just hard enough to piss it off but not hard enough to crush it for long enough for it to get round to biting you and its mouth's against a very thign area of skin and you're sensitive to them. I've got a few around here, too. The "missing sector" orb-weavers do better. They don't do the inward-spiral thing when they make their webs. They do horseshoe-shapes, leaving a clear bit, and have a thicker strand of silk up the middle of the clear bit to a lurking spot between bricks in the window arch or inside an empty Bic pen tube taped to the trellis or wherever they hide. They wait in there until something gets stuck, then come rushing out to the centre of the web and bounce on it, sending out ripples and feeling for echoes, to find the food. Sometimes their lurking spots are well back from the plane of the web, and they do start the web with a spiral, switching to horseshoe-shapes once they start getting close to the "signal line" linking centre to crevice. In other words, it's not a missing sector but a 3D clear space around that line. For a creature with such a tiny brain, that hatches from an egg and runs off all alone with nobody to teach it anything, that's not bad going. They're harmless too.

This one was bigger. Probably also harmless because English spiders are cool like that. We get no major earthquakes, very few hurricanes, almost no tornadoes, no volcanoes, pretty reliable rain year-round and harmless spiders. Even our one venomous snake's not a big deal. Of course, we also get Tories, but apart from them it's not a bad place to live. I think it was one of these. (Funny that the BBC had to ask an insect specialist about it. No arachnid specailist available at the time, I guess.)

applepi, if you really want a "peaceful big spider," check out the Golden Silk orb-weaver. You don't use a macro lens to take a photograph of a dead one of these things. You just lay it on the scanner. They're not venomous. They eat cockroaches, so they're your friends. They don't need to be venomous to eat cockroaches, the same way as a wolf doesn't need to be venomous to eat a rabbit. They get the "golden silk" name because they actually weave zig-zag warning stripes of golden silk into their webs, saving you from colliding with them. They're that nice. HUGE!

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:07 pm UTC
by freezeblade
Sableagle wrote:We get no major earthquakes, very few hurricanes, almost no tornadoes, no volcanoes, pretty reliable rain year-round and harmless spiders. Even our one venomous snake's not a big deal.


Pity on all the poisonous mushrooms though. From what I understand, the American dislike for mushrooms might be a holdover from all the poisonous mushrooms that you guys have over there. Only 2 kinds will kill you here, and one of them isn't even native, they were brought over on ships accidently.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:31 pm UTC
by eran_rathan
Sableagle wrote:We get no major earthquakes, very few hurricanes, almost no tornadoes, no volcanoes, pretty reliable rain year-round and harmless spiders. Even our one venomous snake's not a big deal. Of course, we also get Tories, but apart from them it's not a bad place to live.


Much like New England. We get blizzards and ice storms, but its only four to six months of the year. Oh, and some areas get eastern rattlesnakes, but I'm too far north for that shit.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:10 pm UTC
by Sableagle
freezeblade wrote:Pity on all the poisonous mushrooms though.
Oh, yes. We have those. Pretty little thing, isn't it? They don't crawl into your boots* at night in motel rooms here, though.


* or motorcycle gloves. On a brightly-lit desert highway, with a bad case of helmet hair, warm smell of the engine rising up through the air, soemwhere deep in my right glove I felt a sudden sharp itch. My knuckles tingled and my fingers swelled. I had to stop, take it off and continue my journey bare-handed. Lucky for me it wasn't serious, because I was a long way from anywhere with a 'phone when I found out.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:30 pm UTC
by freezeblade
Sableagle wrote:
freezeblade wrote:Pity on all the poisonous mushrooms though.
Oh, yes. We have those. Pretty little thing, isn't it?


that's one of the two we have, the other being the Death Cap, which likely came over on ship hulls. Lucky these two are the only ones that can kill a healthy adult though, and identifying them is pretty easy (white stem, white gills, white(ish) cap and is an amanita? fuck that shit).

Edit: apparently our "destroying angel" is actually Amanita Ocreata
The more you know.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:04 pm UTC
by Sableagle
I just checked the website of The Independent and learned: "The more TV you watch, the more likely you are to die from any cause" so as long as I stay out of the gym and the Indian take-away I'm pretty much immortal, which could be nice.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:18 pm UTC
by addams
freezeblade wrote:
Sableagle wrote:
freezeblade wrote:Pity on all the poisonous mushrooms though.
Oh, yes. We have those. Pretty little thing, isn't it?


that's one of the two we have, the other being the Death Cap, which likely came over on ship hulls. Lucky these two are the only ones that can kill a healthy adult though, and identifying them is pretty easy (white stem, white gills, white(ish) cap and is an amanita? fuck that shit).

Edit: apparently our "destroying angel" is actually Amanita Ocreata
The more you know.

I recently learned about LBM's.
There was an Urban Legend ... No..

It was a Rural Legend a Country Legend that said, "Little Brown Mushrooms are safe to experiment with."
The Legend said that, "Only old fuddy-duddies that don't want to 'get high' say they are poison."

It's a bloody wonder Any of us survived.
I had This pop-up in a planter a few days ago.
https://www.google.com/search?q=galerin ... waaOx98%3D

Yes. That is gallerias.
The ring on the stem is the sure sign.

That is a deadly little bastard.
As are many of the LBM's.

Don't Eat LBM's!
(gack!)

I've known people that like to hunt and eat wild mushrooms
the way other people like to hunt and eat wild fish.

I eat what is being served.
I bow my head and pray before eating, too.

Today I learned, a cell phone is still a darned nice camera;
Even when it is not a cell phone. How Great is That??

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:14 pm UTC
by Sableagle
addams wrote:It's a bloody wonder Any of us survived.
I had This pop-up in a planter a few days ago.
https://www.google.com/search?q=galerin ... waaOx98%3D

Yes. That is gallerias.
The ring on the stem is the sure sign.

That is a deadly little bastard.
As are many of the LBM's.
I clicked that link, then the "visit page" link, and I read the discussion. It amazes me that nobody there seems to have picked up on the difference in gill structure between pictures 1 and 3. Picture 1 has sinuate gills. Picture 3 has free gills. It'd be a lousy lawyer who failed to poke that hole in a prosecution's case. Doesn't mean they're not closely-related species with the same or similar toxicity, of course, but I don't think those are the same species. Closely-related species. Larger ear, hairless face and grabbier feet / hind feet / rear hands on the one on the right. Looks like they don't care.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:39 am UTC
by Thesh
TIL: An eagle can kill a wolf.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaJ_xOY_QD4

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:38 pm UTC
by Envelope Generator
Hickory and chicory are two different things. I thought "it" was a tree and salad and golf clubs are made with different parts of it. I'll defend myself with the fact that no hickory species grow in Europe.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:18 pm UTC
by Envelope Generator
Another botany lesson: there are plants that don't photosynthesize.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:51 pm UTC
by Sableagle
Today I learned that someone was recently murdered in El Salvador.

The i apparently considered this fact worthy of printing.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:25 am UTC
by Flumble
Envelope Generator wrote:Another botany lesson: there are plants that don't photosynthesize.

Since you've sparked my interest: notable examples are Indian pipe and the broomrape. They're parasites that latch on to other plants or even fungi (which, in turn, feed off of other plants).

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:36 am UTC
by Carlington
Today I learned that around 90% of the serotonin in the body is actually located in the gastrointestinal tract, where it serves to regulate bowel movements and hunger, amongst other things.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:42 pm UTC
by AEFXC
I learned about non-right-angle trigonometry! Somehow I managed to avoid ever being exposed to the Law of Sins and Law of Cosins before (to the best of my memory anyway), and ended up discovering it online as I was trying to figure out how to calculate the required beam angle for a lighting installation.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:49 pm UTC
by Zohar
Carlington wrote:Today I learned that around 90% of the serotonin in the body is actually located in the gastrointestinal tract, where it serves to regulate bowel movements and hunger, amongst other things.

So technically it's on the outside of the body - the hole-part of our donut-shaped bodies!

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:57 pm UTC
by Angua
Not really, it's not like the seronotin is hanging around in the lumen. The walls of the gut are still in the body...

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:58 pm UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
Also, I admit I don't know the details of the digestive system (nor am I googling them at work), but are we not a slightly more complicated shape given our urinary and excretory systems diverge at some point?

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:01 pm UTC
by bigglesworth
They don't diverge - they are not joined at any point.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:04 pm UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
They're joined at the mouth at the very least, no?

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:09 pm UTC
by Angua
No. The urinary tract starts in the kidneys are ends at the urethra.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:11 pm UTC
by Zohar
So do you feel claiming the body contains a tunnel from the mouth to the anus is an inaccurate statement? It's not like it's very important to me, it's only an amusing fact I like.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:17 pm UTC
by Carlington
Not inaccurate, I think. Just that the serotonin itself isn't in the tunnel itself, but rather is in the (nerve endings of?) the walls.
Also it was only vert recently that I came to the realisation that the urinary and digestive tracts were disconnected. I don't think I was ever explicitly taught this, I just kinda puzzled it out sometime last week-ish.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:33 pm UTC
by Angua
Yeah, I'm saying that claiming that serotonin is technically on the outside rather than the inside isn't accurate. The fact that it's all one tube is fine, just irrelevant.

It's led to other people learning stuff today, so there you go.

Re: Today I Learned

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:21 pm UTC
by Zohar
Cool, thanks for the clarification!