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TIL that one of my apple trees has decided this year is the year to start flowering.
Red flowers! I'm looking forward to seeing them open, and to seeing whether I get any fruit on it.
It can't be more than 12 years old.
Red flowers! I'm looking forward to seeing them open, and to seeing whether I get any fruit on it.
It can't be more than 12 years old.
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Lovely Apple Blossoms!
I have more than fifty fruit on my little peach tree.
It began fruiting after only three years from a Seed I took out of my mouth.
I learned, Blue Jay pray on smaller birds.
I learned it from an informational poster at a National Park.
That explains Why;
When the Blue Jay come the Hummers disappear.
I have more than fifty fruit on my little peach tree.
It began fruiting after only three years from a Seed I took out of my mouth.
I learned, Blue Jay pray on smaller birds.
I learned it from an informational poster at a National Park.
That explains Why;
When the Blue Jay come the Hummers disappear.
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European Jays are opportunistic predators and nest-raiders too, although they'd much rather just stuff themselves at the feeder, if it's full.
One flower open today:
I should create desktop backgrounds for a living.
One flower open today:
I should create desktop backgrounds for a living.
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Pretty Flowers.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
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TIL that two kids had started making out on my front doorstep while I was getting the laundry off the line.

Also that the lines from the Tom Lehrer song Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky,
Maybe that's rude in Russian for societal reasons, but WHAT?

Also that the lines from the Tom Lehrer song Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky,
... translate toжил был король когда-то, при нем блоха жила.
я иду куда сам цары идет пещком.
Once upon a time there was a king who had a flea with him.
I go where the king himself goes pawn.
Maybe that's rude in Russian for societal reasons, but WHAT?
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Lehrer wrote that he did not know Russian. In the song he quotes two book reviews in Russian, the actual text of which bears no relation: the first phrase quotes Mussorgsky's Song of the Flea: "Once there was a king who had a pet flea." The second references a Russian joke: "Now I must go where even the Tsar goes on foot" [the bathroom].[4]
Presumably, he just learnt something Russian to say because it doesn't matter when most of the audience and he himself doesn't know Russian?
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Kewangji wrote:Lehrer wrote that he did not know Russian. In the song he quotes two book reviews in Russian, the actual text of which bears no relation: the first phrase quotes Mussorgsky's Song of the Flea: "Once there was a king who had a pet flea." The second references a Russian joke: "Now I must go where even the Tsar goes on foot" [the bathroom].[4]
Presumably, he just learnt something Russian to say because it doesn't matter when most of the audience and he himself doesn't know Russian?
Probably. Both of those phrases sound kind of neat and stereotypically like Russian, and they probably fit the rhythm of the song (I haven’t heard it). I imagine they’re just there for the effect.
(Random musings on translating below.)
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I've got a master's in translation studies, so if you don't mind here are my thoughts on your thoughts:
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I definitely don't mind your thoughts on my thoughts. It's interesting to get the perspective of somebody who has actually studied this stuff, as opposed to just having studied language.
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I recall reading about pretty much this translation quandary for a particular Russian novel, don't remember which one. One translator put it all into contemporary American idioms, so prisoners called each other man or fellow and had to [do X] from reveille to taps. Another translator left it feeling Russian, so prisoners referred to each other as zeks and [did X] from first clang of the bell to last clang of the bell.
The person opining on the translations preferred the latter because he wanted to feel that Russianness. (Russianity? Russianicity?) Not having read the relevant book, I am mostly opinionless but can appreciate both arguments.
The person opining on the translations preferred the latter because he wanted to feel that Russianness. (Russianity? Russianicity?) Not having read the relevant book, I am mostly opinionless but can appreciate both arguments.
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A hearty, Yes!
Respect for the art that goes into translation.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
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A hearty, Yes!
Soon.
Yet; We will always need someone to do quality checks.
...ummm...They say, AI will be better than Human in a short Ten years or Five years.Respect for the art that goes into translation.
Soon.
Yet; We will always need someone to do quality checks.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
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pogrmman wrote:Kewangji wrote:Lehrer wrote that he did not know Russian. In the song he quotes two book reviews in Russian, the actual text of which bears no relation: the first phrase quotes Mussorgsky's Song of the Flea: "Once there was a king who had a pet flea." The second references a Russian joke: "Now I must go where even the Tsar goes on foot" [the bathroom].[4]
Presumably, he just learnt something Russian to say because it doesn't matter when most of the audience and he himself doesn't know Russian?
Probably. Both of those phrases sound kind of neat and stereotypically like Russian, and they probably fit the rhythm of the song (I haven’t heard it). I imagine they’re just there for the effect.
One of the things I like about The Usual Suspects is that the dice landed on Hungary when they picked the nationality of the Eastern European Criminals Speaking a Weird Language and they actually did that properly. The supposedly Hungarian characters (most of them unnamed extras) actually speak Hungarian while the interpreter guy in one scene speaks it in a broken, "formulating sentences with English syntax" sort of way. It was quite well done, and understanding something the director did not intend for the audience to understand was a bit funny (and luckily not spoilerish).
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I'd guess that the place to which the king goes just like any commoner or infantryman is the toilet, so it was kind of an appropriate phrase in context. Maybe известия's cultural review guy was implying he was going to wipe his arse on the thing being reviewed, or to flush it.
I've fewer clear ideas about the flea one, though.
If you're into keeping rhythm while translating, check out the Skyrim theme. Same tune in Dragon Tongue and English.
I've fewer clear ideas about the flea one, though.
If you're into keeping rhythm while translating, check out the Skyrim theme. Same tune in Dragon Tongue and English.
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.
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Given that the folks who wrote the dragon tongue probably also speak English, it's not too surprising. It's hard to invent a new language that isn't pretty much your native language in different clothes. Just checked out the wiki: "The language has basically the same grammar as English, with the exceptions that it doesn't have an equivalent to English's apostrophes".
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Oh hey I'm in poxic's sig, nice.
Thanks for clearing up the mystery of the pawn, pogrmman.
My first master's* was a big essay on the translation of nonsense poetry, detailing different strategies for identifying components of meaning and lack of meaning. That was fun.
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Thanks for clearing up the mystery of the pawn, pogrmman.
My first master's* was a big essay on the translation of nonsense poetry, detailing different strategies for identifying components of meaning and lack of meaning. That was fun.
*the programme is very strangely set up so that you do two "master's" in two years, with the second one being way bigger, don't ask me why this structure is allowed.
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"Here's the tutorial-level master's. When you've finished that, you can do a real one."
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somitomi wrote:pogrmman wrote:Kewangji wrote:Lehrer wrote that he did not know Russian. In the song he quotes two book reviews in Russian, the actual text of which bears no relation: the first phrase quotes Mussorgsky's Song of the Flea: "Once there was a king who had a pet flea." The second references a Russian joke: "Now I must go where even the Tsar goes on foot" [the bathroom].[4]
Presumably, he just learnt something Russian to say because it doesn't matter when most of the audience and he himself doesn't know Russian?
Probably. Both of those phrases sound kind of neat and stereotypically like Russian, and they probably fit the rhythm of the song (I haven’t heard it). I imagine they’re just there for the effect.
One of the things I like about The Usual Suspects is that the dice landed on Hungary when they picked the nationality of the Eastern European Criminals Speaking a Weird Language and they actually did that properly. The supposedly Hungarian characters (most of them unnamed extras) actually speak Hungarian while the interpreter guy in one scene speaks it in a broken, "formulating sentences with English syntax" sort of way. It was quite well done, and understanding something the director did not intend for the audience to understand was a bit funny (and luckily not spoilerish).
That's really neat!
I thought I might have more to say, but I do not.
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TIL that a female chaffinch can and will pounce on a female blackbird, drive her off and take the food.
Chaffinch:
Length:
14.5cm
Wingspan:
24.5-28.5cm
Weight:
18-29g
Blackbird:
Length:
24-25cm
Wingspan:
34-38.5cm
Weight:
80-100g
Chaffinch:
Length:
14.5cm
Wingspan:
24.5-28.5cm
Weight:
18-29g
Blackbird:
Length:
24-25cm
Wingspan:
34-38.5cm
Weight:
80-100g
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Small but crazy sometimes gets the worm.
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Funny.
Very funny.
Very funny.
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Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
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Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
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Today I helped someone else learn just how deadly the 1918 influenza pandemic was ... and in the process I spotted a pie chart and went to the page to see what it was about (because pie chart). The page was in wikipedia and featured a sortable table. This is that page. Here is the top of the column that made me pause and stare:
27.78% of a population is quite a big thing.Code: Select all
Nation Deaths as % of population
Serbia 16.67% to 27.78%
Ottoman Empire 13.26% to 15.36%
Romania 7.73% to 8.88%
Total (Central Powers) 4.92% to 5.87%
France 4.29% to 4.39%
Austria-Hungary 3.48% to 4.05%
Bulgaria 3.41%
German Empire 3.39% to 4.32%
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Even 3.39% of an entire country would be pretty noticeable.
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That would be some 12mil in the US today. Sizable plague.
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I didn't learn about this concept today, but I did stumble on a helpful map of it today:
The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol 100-mile border zone
I'm not sure how accurate it is, as the yellow zone on the right coast seems fatter than the yellow zone on the left coast. But still useful.
Madison, Wisconsin, is considered within the "border area" by CBP, because it's only about 80 miles from the Lake Michigan "border." Wow.
The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol 100-mile border zone
I'm not sure how accurate it is, as the yellow zone on the right coast seems fatter than the yellow zone on the left coast. But still useful.
Madison, Wisconsin, is considered within the "border area" by CBP, because it's only about 80 miles from the Lake Michigan "border." Wow.
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Yeah, the border exception is some serious bullshit
Edit: re. the differing thicknesses - do US "external boundaries" for these purposes maybe extend some distance up rivers/estuaries? That might explain the bulginess of the line.
Edit: re. the differing thicknesses - do US "external boundaries" for these purposes maybe extend some distance up rivers/estuaries? That might explain the bulginess of the line.
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It doesn't look thicker to me, but I can check by drawing my own.
TIL that GIMP 2.8 doesn't bother following the mouse when I'm drawing with the "paintbrush" tool.
It only adds a blob of colour every n pixels, where n is some function of the brush size. For a 200 mile brush diameter, n pixels can be a whole county. When I went from freehanding along the coastline to shift-clicking to draw straight lines, it ignored some clicks so the line I drew was cutting corners. Where I'd done a straight line along the northern border, I got a wavy edge because it only added a blob every 20 miles.
Anyway, map of the US put together from screenshots of flood.firetree.net at low zoom, red overlay on everywhere marked as "would be flooded if sea level rose 0 metres" and also along marked borders, radius 100 miles:
I didn't come upriver into Seattle from the Canadian border. If I had, Ellensburg would have been coloured in too. I also didn't follow the low altitudes up the Colorado valley to Joshua Tree, which would have touched on the Mojave National Preserve if I had.
TIL that GIMP 2.8 doesn't bother following the mouse when I'm drawing with the "paintbrush" tool.
It only adds a blob of colour every n pixels, where n is some function of the brush size. For a 200 mile brush diameter, n pixels can be a whole county. When I went from freehanding along the coastline to shift-clicking to draw straight lines, it ignored some clicks so the line I drew was cutting corners. Where I'd done a straight line along the northern border, I got a wavy edge because it only added a blob every 20 miles.
Anyway, map of the US put together from screenshots of flood.firetree.net at low zoom, red overlay on everywhere marked as "would be flooded if sea level rose 0 metres" and also along marked borders, radius 100 miles:
I didn't come upriver into Seattle from the Canadian border. If I had, Ellensburg would have been coloured in too. I also didn't follow the low altitudes up the Colorado valley to Joshua Tree, which would have touched on the Mojave National Preserve if I had.
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I’m barely outside the zone — about 190 mi from Mexico and 120 mi from the Gulf (well, a bay on the gulf). I’m still closer to both than any other US state.
@sableeagle — for the gimp borders, it’s probably best to turn the border of the country into a path, then figure out how many pixels 100 mi is and then use “stroke path”.
I do think it follows bays/estuaries, but IDK.
@sableeagle — for the gimp borders, it’s probably best to turn the border of the country into a path, then figure out how many pixels 100 mi is and then use “stroke path”.
I do think it follows bays/estuaries, but IDK.
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If I recall an article correctly, CBP also counts international airports as foreign borders. So, for example, a hundred miles around Denver International.
In all fairness...
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Coyne wrote:If I recall an article correctly, CBP also counts international airports as foreign borders. So, for example, a hundred miles around Denver International.
I'm surprised that they haven't tried to argue that outer space is an "external boundary", thereby extending the border zone to the whole country
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I've just assumed they already have.
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They clearly followed the coastlines of Lake Michigan, Lake Superior and that inlet at Seattle, rather than the Canadian border, but they didn't bother to follow sea-level up the river to Albany, so they've got a little pocket of leaving people alone in the NE that's shaded on my map.
I thought there were international airports everywhere in the USA. From Wiki's list of busiest US Airports, the ones with "International" in the name:
... and the two combined:
I thought there were international airports everywhere in the USA. From Wiki's list of busiest US Airports, the ones with "International" in the name:
... and the two combined:
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.
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Quercus wrote:Coyne wrote:If I recall an article correctly, CBP also counts international airports as foreign borders. So, for example, a hundred miles around Denver International.
I'm surprised that they haven't tried to argue that outer space is an "external boundary", thereby extending the border zone to the whole country
Since what this is about is grabbing jurisdiction,... Don't give them any ideas.
In all fairness...
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Sableagle wrote:They clearly followed the coastlines of Lake Michigan, Lake Superior and that inlet at Seattle, rather than the Canadian border, but they didn't bother to follow sea-level up the river to Albany, so they've got a little pocket of leaving people alone in the NE that's shaded on my map.
I thought there were international airports everywhere in the USA. From Wiki's list of busiest US Airports, the ones with "International" in the name:
Busiest US airports.png
... and the two combined:
100_mile_zone.png
Those aren’t the only international airports in the country. There are smaller ones that count as international— like Birmingham, Des Moines, Reno, and others. I guess they have the capabilities to accommodate international flights even if they don’t have regularly scheduled international flights. Here’s the official CBP list of all airports where there is customs. My guess is that all of those could count as borders.
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Today I learned about Vantablack. My daughter was astonished that I hadn't heard anything about it before.
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Yes. That is interesting.ObsessoMom wrote:Today I learned about Vantablack. My daughter was astonished that I hadn't heard anything about it before.
Maybe, your child watches SciShow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP0rH8IR22c
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Learned about the Ebola vaccine. Stores it at -60 to -80 degrees Celsius. Proves difficult to transport. Mentioned (in an 2015 article) using jet fuel to keep the storage containers cold. Maintains the temperature for five days.
Changes its form depending on the observer.
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Refrigeration is one of the big challenges of distributing vaccines and other medical supplies in developing countries. "Infrastructure" is a hard cause to advocate for...
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oh,...Okay.Deva wrote:Learned about the Ebola vaccine. Stores it at -60 to -80 degrees Celsius. Proves difficult to transport. Mentioned (in an 2015 article) using jet fuel to keep the storage containers cold. Maintains the temperature for five days.
The vaccine is difficult to transport.
Can we move to people?
They can walk to the Clinic,
Then walk back home.
With some effort...
oh,...Never Mind;
Like Polio, Ebola has a wild reservoir.
We can never ever irradiate it.
They, just, have to keep working on a better vaccine.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.
Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.
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