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How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Gojoe » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:59 am UTC

Well the other week my friend got mugged :cry:
The said, besides the black eye, he didn't lose much. They took his cell phone, which was a cheap $75 black and white screen one, and his wallet. He didn't have cash so it was more of an inconvenience than anything else.

This got me thinking, I carry A LOT more than that on me all the time. My cell phone is worth 350, plus my ipod is 300, plus if i have my satchel i have my portable hard drive in it, (worth about 300) so all up thats 950 with out trying. Not to mention if i have some cash on me... I suppose i should stop carrying my portable hard drive in case of something like that, but still thats a lot of money to lose if i get mugged.

So basically I am wondering if you guys are like me. If at any given time, how much money would you be out if you got mugged and they took anything of value...

(plus if they punch me, i guess they might break my glasses. and god damn those cost money...)

EDIT: All money is in New Zealand Dollars, roughly 1USD = 1.5NZD

EDIT EDIT: Oh me yarm what if i had my laptop... :shock:
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby cypherspace » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:02 pm UTC

My mp3 player is cheap (£15), but I generally carry a laptop (£750) with me as well. The loss of the laptop wouldn't be so bad as it's insured, but it has all my PhD work on it, which would absolutely fucking ruin me. And my mobile's broken. So that's about it.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby wst » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:15 pm UTC

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby pkuky » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:29 pm UTC

you know, this forum would be the perfect place for mugging reconiciance. they could figure out who to mug, how to threaten him in order to get him to give money, etc.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby tryptanymph » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:23 pm UTC

I've been mugged a few times. I've never lost anything (mostly due to the fucking incompetence of the muggers) except a little bit of blood.

The worst one (or best one :wink: ) was a couple of years ago. I was walking home at night, and took a shortcut through an alley. I didn't think much of it, because my area is pretty good. Anyway, I get a smack around the face from behind (hard enough to make me bite through my lip) but not overly hard. I turn around and this guy demands my wallet. So what do I do? I reach into my pocket, walking towards him slowly, and then as his attention moves to my pocket, I lashed out with my other hand. He goes down with a yelp, and I, in a blind fury, leap on top of him, and continue to punch his face in until it's pretty much ruined. He's unconscious (or wisely pretending to be so) so I check his pockets. I found his phone (cheap) which I broke. Hard. His wallet (of which I took £20), and a knife. Which I kept.

Next bastard who tries to mug me is gonna get the same treatment. You enter the mugging game, you gotta be prepared to lose something.

Oh, I carry a £100 phone, a £130 iPod, a wallet with £10 in, and a 1GB USB stick I found one day. Not a whole lot, but I sometimes have my £700 guitar with me too. But NO fucker is stealing that.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby mike » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:57 pm UTC

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I'd have my phone and probably wallet with me, totalling to a massive £30. But I'd just be pissed about having to sort out all my cards and stuffage.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby lazarus89 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:04 pm UTC

$5 in petty change, credit cards that I can put a lock on immediately (have the phone numbers copied down at home) and a monthly trainpass worth about $200.

The trainpass would hurt the most, I think. I'd actually ask the mugger nicely if I could keep it -- he would never want to go to Jersey from NY, right?
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Fossa » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:09 pm UTC

I was mugged at a deserted train station once. My wallet has two folds, I was slick and opened it in front of him rather than giving it to him entirely. I quickly opened the fold where I keep the bills left after breaking a $20 while keeping the fold with two twenties and my paycheck closed and out of sight. I then bargained with him telling him I needed money for dinner.

In the end he took a $10 and left me with $6 in one pocket, $40 and my paycheck in the other, plus all my IDs and stuff. I was proud of myself, granted I was really short growing up and this was when I was a Freshman in Highschool. I wasn't about to pull a Sleepygamer.

These days I carry a cheap phone, about $50 in cash (still), and my old iPod Nano. I'll be getting a better phone once I move though.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby tin » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:16 pm UTC

In general, i'm pretty skint and unable to afford Fancy Things. Although my battered iRiver H320 MP3 player is worth £200. That was 3 years ago though, so it's probably not worth anything now, but not having any portable music would be a bummer. Hopefully, the mugger would be driven insane by trying to operate it, as it's a very clunky piece of hardware.

I usually don't have any cash on me, so muggers would just be treated to bountiful amounts of coppers and 5p's. Even my phones insured, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Oh wait, if I got mugged when my Nikon D80 SLR camera was in my bag, i'd be fucking devastated. That's when a Kill Bill style vengence mission would be goin' down. Jumpsuits, samurai swords and everything.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Durinthal » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:29 pm UTC

My wallet rarely has more than $50 cash... maybe another $50 in gift cards, a credit card and debit card (which I would cancel as soon as I got home), a $20 USB flash drive that doesn't have anything important on it, and my driver's license. The only other things that I have in my pockets are a cheap cell phone (maybe worth $75, since it's new), my car and house keys, and a pen and pencil.

So I guess I'm not really the best target to go for.

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Postby PictureSarah » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:30 pm UTC

If I were mugged when I just had my wallet...it would be inconvenient, but not devastating. Chances are they wouldn't get more than $15 or so in cash, my phone is replaceable and not worth much at all, and I could put a hold on my credit and debit card without much trouble.
If I were mugged when I was carrying my backpack, that could potentially be a whole other, and very valuable, can of worms. When I have my backpack, I often have my MacBook Pro, and my Canon EOS 30D. Depending on the lens I have on the Canon, that could be about $3300. But unless the mugger had a VERY substantial weapon, there'd be no way he'd get any of those things, particularly the computer. I'm more attached to my camera, but my computer has a lot of my photography work on the hard drive. But yeah...try to take my camera, and get some body part you would really rather keep ripped off by my teeth.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby SpitValve » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:34 pm UTC

sleepygamer wrote:...He goes down with a yelp, and I, in a blind fury, leap on top of him, and continue to punch his face in until it's pretty much ruined. He's unconscious (or wisely pretending to be so) so I check his pockets. I found his phone (cheap) which I broke. Hard. His wallet (of which I took £20), and a knife. Which I kept.


so... who else would like to public confess to committing a violent crime?

But on topic: I'd be ok if I didn't have my powerbook on me - that's pretty expensive and has a lot of important stuff on it - I do back up though, but still.

And Gojoe - the exchange rate is much better than it used to be :) Google says we're at 78c right now, (i.e. $1 US is $1.28 in NZ) which is pretty sweet considering we used to be like 40c or something.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby mobikwa » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:38 pm UTC

If I got mugged I would at most lose, my graphing calculator $120, mp3 player I got for free, phone $300, $20 cash, and if I was going to class I might have a textbook $75-150 and my laptop $300. So total, about $850. The worst thing they could take are my keys, being paranoid about someone stealing my car, paying $75 for new locks on the house, no way to get into my safe (at least until my dad mails me the replacement key).

But there is no way I would just hand anything over, there would be a struggle and I would either end up losing my stuff and getting hurt or kicking the hell out of the guy and taking his stuff.

so... who else would like to public confess to committing a violent crime?


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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby UnderRock » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:50 pm UTC

I'm never outside, but next fall I will be for college, and the place in question has a higher crime rate, so I've got to be careful there. (Right now I'm in a place where muggings are completely unheard of, but I'm not too worried for next fall, since there are campus police and little "help" buttons scattered around the campus.)

Nevertheless, what would be a good way to avoid being mugged? The best I can think of would be to ride a bike around as opposed to walking (harder to stop, and faster get-away).
Edit: Traveling with a friend (or friends), that might help.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby tryptanymph » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:57 pm UTC

SpitValve wrote:
sleepygamer wrote:...He goes down with a yelp, and I, in a blind fury, leap on top of him, and continue to punch his face in until it's pretty much ruined. He's unconscious (or wisely pretending to be so) so I check his pockets. I found his phone (cheap) which I broke. Hard. His wallet (of which I took £20), and a knife. Which I kept.


so... who else would like to public confess to committing a violent crime?

I would just like to point out that he attacked me. It was all self defence. The bit where I took his money? Compensation. I had a scar on my lip for nearly a year afterwards.

And his knife? Taking that was a public service! He could have mugged more people with it! (Although, admittedly, not for a while. His face was pretty badly swollen. XD)

Am I covered yet? Oh the fucking phone!

He might have... uhm... thrown it at me? :roll:

Okay, enough. I admit that maybe I shouldn't have been so mean. But he did try and mug me.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby SpitValve » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:09 pm UTC

UnderRock wrote:Nevertheless, what would be a good way to avoid being mugged? The best I can think of would be to ride a bike around as opposed to walking (harder to stop, and faster get-away).


I've heard of people who wait on bike-tracks to whack people off their bikes... nobody else is usually nearby, and you generally can't stop in time...

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Postby doc leech » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:16 pm UTC

I don't think I would lose too much monetarily, in the big scheme of things. Depending on the day, I'd have a relatively cheap cell phone, anywhere from $20-$500 in the wallet (I don't trust plastic yet. Damn newfangled gizmos!), and my grandmothers necklace and wedding ring (which she gave to me a few days before passing). Those last two, while pricey items by nature, are priceless to me. Course, they'd need to steal my shirt before they could even see those things. And if they started taking the clothes off my back... that could get expensive (on a work day, anyway). Damn you nice clothes, damn you!
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Yiel » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:23 pm UTC

These days I'm usually carrying two bags. One with my wallet, phone, ipod, laptop etc. The other is usually full of rather heavy hardcover books for study. I think this swung in a mugger's direction would gently persude them to leave the other bag alone. If I lost that, my insurance would cover the items, but I'd still rather not part with them.

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Postby Aelfyre » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:43 pm UTC

for me getting mugged would fall to the whims of fate. I know somewhere deep from my core that I wouldnt have the common f@cking sense to just given them the shit and let it slide, and while i by no mean a porker I am also nowhere nearly as fit as i used to be and havent been to a dojo in.. jesus like ten years.. so the spinning backkick to the throat that i see in my minds eye would never f@cking happen.. although i do think i have the common sense not to try.. but yeah.. if i run across someone expecting resistance I'm sure it wouldnt end well for me but with the element of surprise... yeah.. i can see it now.. the back of my mind would be whizzing by figures and probabilities of what i think i could get away with before the self defense argument starts looking hollow..

ok so let me get this straight sir.. this man accosted you and demanded your wallet so you kicking him in the genitals and beat him unconcious before carving your initials in his forehead backwads?

yeah..I'd either get my ass stomped or prolly stop when i got tired... oh unless i was with my GF when it happened in which case i'd just hand the shit over and if they tryed taking further then give my last breath stopping him...

oh but to answer the actual question.. i keep bout a hundred buxs on me and a Zune.. the most valuble thing i have on me 90% of the time is my glasses.. like 500 bux cuz they are rimless and what not but what the hell kinda crackhead steals someones glasses? If they are that desperate then I doubt they are a trained fighter and it might not end so well for them :)
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Postby benjhuey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:20 pm UTC

I'd have my phone, wallet, and car keys. I wouldn't mind if they took the phone; it's old, and I really want a new one anyway. My wallet usually houses somewhere between $10 to $50; I'd normally carry more, but I have a credit card, and I can lock that up no problem. My wallet would also be holding various gift cards of varying amounts; I have so many, carrying them all would be a hassle. Two or three at a time works. Finally, I'd only be afraid to lose my car keys because then I couldn't easily get back home. Assuming, though, that I'm being mugged while out walking around, I'm probably no where near my car, so I don't know what they think they're going to use them for. But that's getting into situational factors (of which there could be billions), so I'll save it.
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Postby Zohar » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:27 pm UTC

My phone is around 180$. I carry around about 70$ in cash on average. I have *a lot* of various cards on it, though, which would be very annoying to replace.
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Postby tryptanymph » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:34 pm UTC

Aelfyre wrote:ok so let me get this straight sir.. this man accosted you and demanded your wallet so you kicking him in the genitals and beat him unconcious before carving your initials in his forehead backwads?

Yep. He was a bit stupid, and stank of beer, so I had the advantage. I didn't kick in in the particulars though. I merely knelt on them whilst I punched his face in.

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Postby sparkyb » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:38 pm UTC

Damn forum. I posted here once but it seems it didn't take. My phone was free; I paid for for the plastic clip. I never have more than $200 in my wallet although usually less than $100. Occasionally there are several thousand dollars in checks needing to be deposited (although I'm getting better about this) but those can be easily canceled. Same goes for credit cards, bank card, and driver's license. If it weren't for a previous poster I wouldn't have even thought about my train card, but that's never more than $20 and some assorted gift cards. The bigger cost would be the time and effort to cancel and replace everything (also a new wallet isn't that cheap either). If I were carrying my laptop bag, then there'd be something worth taking. Luckily I wouldn't lose too much important data since it is mostly just for portability and almost everything I'd put on there is also on my desktop or server.

I've never been mugged but last year my apartment was robbed. Everyone, make sure you have renter's insurance, I'm serious. They got maybe $6000 worth of stuff. Mostly smaller things. Laptop, projector, digital camera, camcorder, Wii (plus games and controllers) were the major items. Insurance paid for all of it. It was kind of nice to be able to get a whole bunch of newer better stuff at once without feeling like I was wasting money. The thing I was actually most upset that they took was my laptop case (which was odd since it was not even in the same room as the laptop) which I had had for a long time and I haven't been able to find one I like as much to replace it (runner up: the pillowcases that matched my sheets that can't be replaced).

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby darren » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:01 pm UTC

1) If you lose your laptop/computer/etc, your main loss is going to be when your identity is stolen. Make sure your documents are backed up and your vulnerable copies (like, on your laptop) are encrypted. Don't save any passwords in firefox or anywhere else on the machine.
2) If you walk around with those white ipod ear buds, or you pull out your $600 iphone in public, you deserve to be mugged.
3) Don't carry around anything you don't need. There should be no reason for you to carry around any more than a cheap cellphone, a wallet with cash/few credit cards/drivers license, and maybe a cheap mp3 player. In fact, consider carrying two wallets-- one with a few bucks and the other with ID. If I were mugged today, I'd have to cancel my two bank cards, my cell phone, and get a drivers license, but other than that I'd be fine.
4) There are two kinds of people in the world, criminals and victims. Don't be a victim. Seriously. If you walk around like a spoiled college student you are going to be a target.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Hoags » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:06 pm UTC

Wallet - £3 or ~$6
Contents of wallet - £10 or ~$20
Phone - £20 or ~$40

I'd have to get my bank card replaced, but that's about it.

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Postby MoonBuggy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:15 pm UTC

darren wrote:2) If you walk around with those white ipod ear buds, or you pull out your $600 iphone in public, you deserve to be mugged.
3) Don't carry around anything you don't need. There should be no reason for you to carry around any more than a cheap cellphone, a wallet with cash/few credit cards/drivers license, and maybe a cheap mp3 player. In fact, consider carrying two wallets-- one with a few bucks and the other with ID. If I were mugged today, I'd have to cancel my two bank cards, my cell phone, and get a drivers license, but other than that I'd be fine.
4) There are two kinds of people in the world, criminals and victims. Don't be a victim. Seriously. If you walk around like a spoiled college student you are going to be a target.

What the fuck? Are you seriously suggesting that one should avoid having nice/expensive things on the basis that they might get stolen?

Back on topic, the most valuable things I have with me at any time are probably clothes and glasses anyway, so wallet and phone would primarily be irritation. The real problem is that I would want to exact revenge, and quite frankly I know that's stupid and implausible, but I also know that it would take me a long while to shake the desire to track them down and do something even though I couldn't actually do so.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby tryptanymph » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:24 pm UTC

darren wrote:4) There are two kinds of people in the world, criminals and victims. Don't be a victim. Seriously. If you walk around like a spoiled college student you are going to be a target.

I also hope you're not suggesting people go out mugging other people to avoid being mugged themselves!

I kid, I kid.

But seriously, you shouldn't deny yourself some luxuries on the basis you might get mugged! The only reason I got a decent iPod is because I was sick of going through cheap ones like there was no tomorrow!
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Mr. Beck » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:40 pm UTC

Although I'd like to imagine that I would fight back, in reality I would just hand the stuff over.
Supposing I got mugged on the way back from to school, it would cost me:
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    $75 college bookstore gift card.
    $30 8GB USB Drive.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Toeofdoom » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:44 pm UTC

My phone is worth... I dunno, I dont care I use it for calling and texting. So... shit all. My wallet can carry anywhere from $10 to $200, and my bag may carry a laptop and mouse which could be replaced for a bit over $1000, if I bothered. Any other computer stuff I may have with me would add a little more, about $100 for either of my external hard drives.

In the end, though, they're all just material posessions, and I've learned to backup any important files. Like darren says though, identity theft would suck quite some ass. For this reason, I will now change my email passwords to something that I use for nothing else and is saved nowhere. *password changed* I think 50 characters long should suffice.

If people just steal my stuff, okay, I can replace that. If people start *really* inconveniencing me, well, then I have stuff to write music about, right?
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Postby Robin S » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:04 pm UTC

cypherspace wrote:The loss of the laptop wouldn't be so bad as it's insured, but it has all my PhD work on it, which would absolutely fucking ruin me.
So back it up.

I also carry a laptop on me, also insured. Most of my important files are, or soon will be, backed up on USB flash drives (I broke one, but now have a replacement) which are too cheap to be worth stealing, and even if someone stole it I could easily make triple backups if I could be bothered.

My phone is also far too cheap to be worth stealing. It stopped selling a couple of years ago; I bought it in 2003, and it was already on the decline then. A year or two ago I had the entertaining experience of not one, but two pairs of youths in quick succession ask me for my phone, only for me to tell them what model it was.
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Postby Marbas » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:15 pm UTC

What if you aren't carrying anything but the clothes on your back?

Do they take your shoes or something? I frequently walk long distances without anything of value on hand.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby benjhuey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:17 pm UTC

Marbas wrote:What if you aren't carrying anything but the clothes on your back?

Do they take your shoes or something? I frequently walk long distances without anything of value on hand.

Then they just take your time, which can be rather annoying.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby darren » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:20 pm UTC

MoonBuggy wrote:
darren wrote:2) If you walk around with those white ipod ear buds, or you pull out your $600 iphone in public, you deserve to be mugged.
3) Don't carry around anything you don't need. There should be no reason for you to carry around any more than a cheap cellphone, a wallet with cash/few credit cards/drivers license, and maybe a cheap mp3 player. In fact, consider carrying two wallets-- one with a few bucks and the other with ID. If I were mugged today, I'd have to cancel my two bank cards, my cell phone, and get a drivers license, but other than that I'd be fine.
4) There are two kinds of people in the world, criminals and victims. Don't be a victim. Seriously. If you walk around like a spoiled college student you are going to be a target.

What the fuck? Are you seriously suggesting that one should avoid having nice/expensive things on the basis that they might get stolen?


Did I say that? I'm saying flaunting the expensive toys your parents bought you in public isn't exactly going to keep you off the radar of muggers. Ie, if you walk around campus/any urban area after dark, by yourself, with earbuds on, carrying a laptop, you oughta be mugged. Consider it a learning experience.

But seriously, you shouldn't deny yourself some luxuries on the basis you might get mugged! The only reason I got a decent iPod is because I was sick of going through cheap ones like there was no tomorrow!

I use apple as an example only because a) it's a symbol of western gluttony and arrogance, recognized by criminals worldwide, b) because most ipod owners advertise they're carrying a $400 toy by using those white ear plugs (not to mention that having any earplugs on in public makes you oblivious to surrounding sounds), and c) ipod owners have a high probability of having a powerbook or something similar, making them an ideal target.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Marbas » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:21 pm UTC

benjhuey wrote:
Marbas wrote:What if you aren't carrying anything but the clothes on your back?

Do they take your shoes or something? I frequently walk long distances without anything of value on hand.

Then they just take your time, which can be rather annoying.



Oh hooray!

Wait...what if they don't believe you? That could get unpleasant fast.

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Shizo » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:25 pm UTC

I wouldn't lose much. Most schooldays I don't carry anything with me. I leave my phone, wallet, ipod, pencils, and anything else of value at home. I sometimes carry cookies in my coat pockets. I guess I'd be out a cookie if I were mugged at school.

On the weekends/summer time/now, however, I'd lose quite a bit. My phone is brand new and I have an ipod with me. Still no wallet, I just keep a $20 or two in my shoes.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Robin S » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:30 pm UTC

Marbas wrote:Wait...what if they don't believe you? That could get unpleasant fast.
Even if they do believe you, they could choose to take it out on you.

Fortunately, the one time some kids have attempted to mug me and I've had to resort to the "I don't have anything of interest" line, they were about half my age and I just walked through them when they tried to grab me. All I suffered was a torn jumper.
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby wst » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:34 pm UTC

sleepygamer wrote:...(of which I took £20)

You live in the UK. Yes! That means I just have to follow the sound of sweet (dry) riffs to find you. Haha! Then I can dare people I dislike to mug you.

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UnderRock wrote:Nevertheless, what would be a good way to avoid being mugged? The best I can think of would be to ride a bike around as opposed to walking (harder to stop, and faster get-away).


I've heard of people who wait on bike-tracks to whack people off their bikes... nobody else is usually nearby, and you generally can't stop in time...

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby MoonBuggy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:54 pm UTC

darren wrote:
MoonBuggy wrote:
darren wrote:2) If you walk around with those white ipod ear buds, or you pull out your $600 iphone in public, you deserve to be mugged.
3) Don't carry around anything you don't need. There should be no reason for you to carry around any more than a cheap cellphone, a wallet with cash/few credit cards/drivers license, and maybe a cheap mp3 player. In fact, consider carrying two wallets-- one with a few bucks and the other with ID. If I were mugged today, I'd have to cancel my two bank cards, my cell phone, and get a drivers license, but other than that I'd be fine.
4) There are two kinds of people in the world, criminals and victims. Don't be a victim. Seriously. If you walk around like a spoiled college student you are going to be a target.

What the fuck? Are you seriously suggesting that one should avoid having nice/expensive things on the basis that they might get stolen?


Did I say that?

Yes, you said almost exactly that. Your precise words were "There should be no reason for you to carry around any more than a cheap cellphone, a wallet with cash/few credit cards/drivers license, and maybe a cheap mp3 player.".

darren wrote:I'm saying flaunting the expensive toys your parents bought you in public isn't exactly going to keep you off the radar of muggers. Ie, if you walk around campus/any urban area after dark, by yourself, with earbuds on, carrying a laptop, you oughta be mugged. Consider it a learning experience.

That sounds like a slightly more sensible point, but really implying that it's the fault of the victim still strikes me as pretty stupid. Yes, ostentatious displays of wealth can sometimes be a bad idea, but you really think that if you're doing so (to use your exact words again) "...you deserve to be mugged"?
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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Gunfingers » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:57 pm UTC

I've heard this perspective before, and i always thought it sounded a little like "Well dressed like that you were just asking to get raped".

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Re: How bad would a mugging be...

Postby Marbas » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:09 pm UTC

The solution is obvious:

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