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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SlyReaper » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:00 am UTC

darknut wrote:while in the shop at school to another student
"if you are bleeding forget about getting your project done, go to first aid!"

What if he just scratched his finger? Would that warrant first aid? Sure, if his wound is spraying blood all over the classroom, I can see cause for concern. But I don't think "is he bleeding or not" should be a deciding factor on whether a person should seek medical attention.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Pez Dispens3r » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:02 am UTC

Apparently things that needn't be said often require qualifying statements.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Torvaun » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:05 pm UTC

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darknut wrote:while in the shop at school to another student
"if you are bleeding forget about getting your project done, go to first aid!"

What if he just scratched his finger? Would that warrant first aid? Sure, if his wound is spraying blood all over the classroom, I can see cause for concern. But I don't think "is he bleeding or not" should be a deciding factor on whether a person should seek medical attention.

Yes. If there is any blood at all, you get first aid instead of turning an ever-increasing number of surfaces into biohazards.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SlyReaper » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:22 am UTC

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darknut wrote:while in the shop at school to another student
"if you are bleeding forget about getting your project done, go to first aid!"

What if he just scratched his finger? Would that warrant first aid? Sure, if his wound is spraying blood all over the classroom, I can see cause for concern. But I don't think "is he bleeding or not" should be a deciding factor on whether a person should seek medical attention.

Yes. If there is any blood at all, you get first aid instead of turning an ever-increasing number of surfaces into biohazards.

Biohazard? Methinks perchance you watch too many movies and/or antiseptic adverts.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Midnight » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:37 am UTC

OSHA rules say if anything's bloody it's gotta be cleaned with a 10:1 ratio of water:bleach. Everything from costumes to concrete to musicians, as my stagecraft teacher once said.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Thesh » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:09 am UTC

When I worked as a surgeon, I used the 25% rule which states that you only change your gloves between patients if over 25% of the gloves are covered in blood.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Woofsie » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:11 am UTC

Is that why "worked" is in the past-tense?

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Zarq » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:14 am UTC

Thesh wrote:When I worked as a surgeon, I used the 25% rule which states that you only change your gloves between patients if over 25% of the gloves are covered in blood.


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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby reflex » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:18 am UTC

Thesh wrote:When I worked as a surgeon, I used the 25% rule which states that you only change your gloves between patients if over 25% of the gloves are covered in blood.

Seriously? That could easily, and most probably happen the most frequently, lead to a case where the tips of your fingers, the part you would use the most when operating I would assume, get covered in blood. So even if it is almost certain the patient's blood will be spread to someone else, it doesn't matter as long as it's less than 25%? That's downright ignorant.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Thesh » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:38 am UTC

Woofsie wrote:Is that why "worked" is in the past-tense?


No one mentioned it, I was told this when I was let go:

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Postby Baldur » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:47 am UTC

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby pseudoidiot » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:38 pm UTC

Did you show them your Holiday Inn Club card? They probably didn't realize what a VIP you were.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby You, sir, name? » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:58 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:When I worked as a surgeon, I used the 25% rule which states that you only change your gloves between patients if over 25% of the gloves are covered in blood.


It's funny because back in the day they wouldn't even wash their hands between dissecting a corpse and performing surgery on a live person / delivering babies / etc.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby justaman » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:09 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
Thesh wrote:When I worked as a surgeon, I used the 25% rule which states that you only change your gloves between patients if over 25% of the gloves are covered in blood.

It's funny because back in the day they wouldn't even wash their hands between dissecting a corpse and performing surgery on a live person / delivering babies / etc.

And that my friend is how thousands of people died... have a look at puerpural fever under the incidence category.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby emceng » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:34 pm UTC

ISHTST:
When driving on a freeway, don't match the speeds at which people in other lanes are going. You cause a roadblock.
Don't merge into 65-70 mph traffic at 55 when you have an entire lane in which to get up to speed.
Don't spend 3 miles ducking in and out of my blind spot. For fucks sake, it almost had to be intentional.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:12 pm UTC

Adjust your mirrors so you don't have a blind spot?

The basic gist of that - if you can see your car in the side view mirrors, you're doing it wrong. Adjust them out farther.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Oregonaut » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:19 pm UTC

With the theme of automotive transportation:

When I'm rolling on my motorcycle, and it is raining, I am not going to accelerate over the speed limit, no matter how badly you want me to. I will always* be in the furthest right lane. The left lane is there for your monkey ass to pass me. If you do not use it, do not blast your horn at me when I brake suddenly to avoid an impending clusterfuck of puddle + biker + car swerving out of the turn lane + amber light.

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Cloud Walker » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:26 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Adjust your mirrors so you don't have a blind spot?

The basic gist of that - if you can see your car in the side view mirrors, you're doing it wrong. Adjust them out farther.


Interesting. I'll give that a shot. I keep the sides of my car slightly in view as a reference point, so this may be disorienting and, therefore, dangerous. Then again, blind spots are dangerous as well.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:59 pm UTC

Yeah, it takes a little getting used to, but the way I have my mirrors set up is.. more or less like that. I do have a "Danger" blind spot, but you'd have to be on a small Moped in order to be in it one lane over. And if I can't hear you that close, then it's because we're doing 90 and that's not a Moped but a Dark Eldar Reaver and we've got bigger problems.

Also, I throw a glance to the side before merging anyway, just in case.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Quaternia » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:57 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:And if I can't hear you that close, then it's because we're doing 90 and that's not a Moped but a Dark Eldar Reaver and we've got bigger problems.

Picturing that totally made my day :D

Depends what kind of vehicle is being driven, though; trucks and such have a larger blind spot.

On the subject of driving...
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Lazar » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:00 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:What if he just scratched his finger? Would that warrant first aid? Sure, if his wound is spraying blood all over the classroom, I can see cause for concern. But I don't think "is he bleeding or not" should be a deciding factor on whether a person should seek medical attention.

In a similar vein, people often tell kids not to take drugs, even though they quite definitely should take drugs when they're necessary and prescribed by a doctor.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Oregonaut » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:05 pm UTC

Quaternia wrote:ISHTST: use the turn signals. Please. For the love of everything you hold dear. It's just one little finger movement....


THIS! ^

The above.

Also, again, for the below!

Quaternia wrote:ISHTST: use the turn signals. Please. For the love of everything you hold dear. It's just one little finger movement....


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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SurgicalSteel » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 pm UTC

Similarly: don't turn on your blinker just because it looks pretty! And relatedly (it's a word, I swear): those arrows in the road aren't just decoration.

Put it all together and we get:
ISHTST: If you're going to go straight don't get in the right turn only lane with your right blinker on!
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Poochy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:25 am UTC

Still on the theme of traffic:

ISHTST: The point of a turn signal is to signal your turn or lane change before you actually execute it. If you're already halfway between lanes, that's a bit too late to activate your signal. I doubt the people behind you can see into the future.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Antimony-120 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:22 am UTC

I have another one:

A motorcycle requires a certain amount of space to drive in. I'll give you a hint, it's an integer number of lanes, and it is greater than zero. I know they drive about three to a lane in the movies, but that is synchronized driving by professionals, and that is still easier than me having to deal with your massive SUV in my lane.

ISHTST: Get the hell out of my lane.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Ashlah » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:31 am UTC

Wait, wait, wait...people try to drive next to you in the same lane while you're on a motorcycle? Is that what you're saying? Because no...you should not have to tell anyone that that is a stupid fucking thing to do.

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Cloud Walker » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:50 am UTC

If I made a list of things I shouldn't have to say to other drivers (though not actually try to tell them, but would if given the chance), it would be a novel long after only one commute.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Antimony-120 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 am UTC

Ashlah wrote:Wait, wait, wait...people try to drive next to you in the same lane while you're on a motorcycle? Is that what you're saying? Because no...you should not have to tell anyone that that is a stupid fucking thing to do.


That is EXACTLY what I am saying. And no, no I shouldn't. But people still try it. I've learnt to be pretty aggressive about my space on my bike, because otherwise people are psychotic.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Kang » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:56 pm UTC

Just to add something I've seen a few weeks back to the overall traffic theme:
I shouldn't have to say this, but staring at the screen of your nav is not the perfect way of driving, even though I probably have to give credit for the fact that the resolution of your GPS was good enough to allow you actually making that turn onto the freeway without ever looking through the windshield.

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Zohar » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:22 pm UTC

ISHTST: A person's ability to understand higher level math and physics is completely unrelated to their ability to multiply numbers.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Oregonaut » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:25 pm UTC

Antimony-120 wrote:
Ashlah wrote:Wait, wait, wait...people try to drive next to you in the same lane while you're on a motorcycle? Is that what you're saying? Because no...you should not have to tell anyone that that is a stupid fucking thing to do.


That is EXACTLY what I am saying. And no, no I shouldn't. But people still try it. I've learnt to be pretty aggressive about my space on my bike, because otherwise people are psychotic.


And if you're riding in a strong line, as you're supposed to on a bigger bike, you don't usually ride in the dead-center of your lane. I tend towards the outside, just to give myself a buffer zone. This means the putz in the penis-extension-mobile thinks he can use part of your lane too.
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Postby OBrien » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:30 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:ISHTST: A person's ability to understand higher level math and physics is completely unrelated to their ability to multiply numbers.


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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SlyReaper » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:36 pm UTC

Going back to the traffic theme, ISHTST: The speed limit here is X mph. I am already driving at X mph. Nothing you do, no amount of beeping or light flashing or tailgating or weaving around is going to make me drive faster than I'm already going. Because I'm one of those (apparantly very rare) people who cares if I get points on my license or not. In fact, I think I'll slow down. There, we are both now driving along at X-3 mph. Oh, you're still tailgating me? Fine, we're now both driving at X-6mph. Still at it? X-10 mph, and you still can't overtake me. I'm not in a hurry, and I can keep this up all day, so back off and stop being an obnoxious twat.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby RetSpline » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:00 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Going back to the traffic theme, ISHTST: The speed limit here is X mph. I am already driving at X mph. Nothing you do, no amount of beeping or light flashing or tailgating or weaving around is going to make me drive faster than I'm already going. Because I'm one of those (apparantly very rare) people who cares if I get points on my license or not. In fact, I think I'll slow down. There, we are both now driving along at X-3 mph. Oh, you're still tailgating me? Fine, we're now both driving at X-6mph. Still at it? X-10 mph, and you still can't overtake me. I'm not in a hurry, and I can keep this up all day, so back off and stop being an obnoxious twat.
Are... are you me? Because this is seriously exactly how I feel when I'm driving along at or just under the speed limit and some giant truck or SUV pulls up right behind me. I'm not going to go faster just because you want me to. Besided, judging by the relative shininess of our cars, I'd hazard that you care significantly more about the appearance of yours and wouldn't actually hit me. Pardon me while I decellerate in advance of this red light, instead of in the preceeding 2 feet.

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:05 pm UTC

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SlyReaper wrote:Going back to the traffic theme, ISHTST: The speed limit here is X mph. I am already driving at X mph. Nothing you do, no amount of beeping or light flashing or tailgating or weaving around is going to make me drive faster than I'm already going. Because I'm one of those (apparantly very rare) people who cares if I get points on my license or not. In fact, I think I'll slow down. There, we are both now driving along at X-3 mph. Oh, you're still tailgating me? Fine, we're now both driving at X-6mph. Still at it? X-10 mph, and you still can't overtake me. I'm not in a hurry, and I can keep this up all day, so back off and stop being an obnoxious twat.
Are... are you me? Because this is seriously exactly how I feel when I'm driving along at or just under the speed limit and some giant truck or SUV pulls up right behind me. I'm not going to go faster just because you want me to. Besided, judging by the relative shininess of our cars, I'd hazard that you care significantly more about the appearance of yours and wouldn't actually hit me. Pardon me while I decellerate in advance of this red light, instead of in the preceeding 2 feet.
So long as you aren't in the far left lane (or I guess far right lane if you're wacky and drive on the wrong side) then there's no problem.

If you are in the fast lane doing that, then.. yeah, I hate you. Sorry. Them's the rules.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Oregonaut » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:07 pm UTC

One lane traffic, that's totally cool. Drive the speed limit. Two lane traffic, in the fast lane? You're an ass. Passing on the outside is dangerous. But it sounds like you fine folks are saying that this is one lane traffic, so carry on with your bad selves.
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:09 pm UTC

Yeah, I have no idea how passing works there. If it's anything like here, then it's nothing but blind curves with no oncoming traffic, and straightaways with dozens of oncoming cars.

WHY?! I JUST WANT TO PASS THIS TRACTOR! IS THAT SO WRONG?!
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby broken_escalator » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:15 pm UTC

I always wonder what people think when they try swerving their car and tailgating. Is the general idea, drive like an ass and then people will want to give in to my wishes? Sometimes I'm just driving along and people move out of the lane for me even though I was content following them a safe distance at their speed. They realize I was going faster until I caught up to them, and I guess decided to let me pass.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this other than I'll slow down and be an ass to tailgaters or people that ignore rules of the road. Whats that, metaphorical butt-driver is using the right turn lane to pass everyone going straight? Not if I stay the same speed as butt-driver until butt-driver runs out of road or stops! :twisted:

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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Whelan » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:19 pm UTC

ISHTST: No I will not follow Tony Blair on twitter, stop asking!
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Re: I Shouldn't Have To Say This

Postby Oregonaut » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:30 pm UTC

In many states, particularly those with ample shoulders and long stretches of flat road, drivers will pull over and let faster traffic go. That's what those shoulders are there for.
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