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Postby Internetmeme » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:36 am UTC

Tomorrow, I'm donating some blood to the Red Cross at school.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia, and they use a HUGE needle, judging from the picture.
I do not like needles.

Anyone else here who has donated, does it hurt more than a normal needle? I realize that the reason normal needles hurt is from fluid being forced into the site, but that's with a really small needle. With this, it's a big one.

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Well, since I've donated my pint, might as well rename the thread into a general blood-donating one.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Fossa » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:51 am UTC

No, donating blood will not give you control over whoever receives your blood nor will it give you a psychic link to them. I know, I know -- I was disappointed too.

Wait, that wasn't your question?

Err... Umm... Disregard.

Seriously though? It hurts way less than most shots if they do it right.

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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:12 am UTC

It feels the same as when they draw blood for medical tests. Except you can feel it draining your soul blood out of your body. And if you're awesome like me, you can push out a pint of blood in 5 minutes.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby scrovak » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:21 am UTC

I've always hated needles. Been terrified of them until I gave blood, because I folded up my leather belt, stuck it in my teeth, and bit down, saying 'it's all to save a life'. Somehow, that destroyed my needle uneasiness, likely because it didn't hurt much. When ever they do those pricks on your finger to get samples, those hurt more than getting your blood drawn. Plus, FREE COOKIES!!!
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby ginadagny » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:37 am UTC

Agreed with scrovak. I found the finger prick more painful than the needle insertion (even though the needle is quite thick). Also, your experience will be good or bad depending on how skilled the nurse is at venipuncture. I've always lucked out and had no problems (IE Massive bruising at the venipuncture site). 8)

Kudos for donating blood, btw.

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Postby scrovak » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:42 am UTC

ginadagny wrote:Kudos for donating blood, btw.



Also,

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Postby Xeio » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:07 am UTC

Too bad the cookies and juice they usually give you suck.

Ah well, free T-shirts! :P

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Postby scrovak » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:09 am UTC

When I organized it at my high school, they sprang for girl scout cookies :-D
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Hawknc » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:43 am UTC

When I donate at the blood bank in the city, we get a sausage roll and a milkshake. Awwww yeah.

Anywho, it probably won't hurt more than a blood test. You might feel a little discomfort but it's definitely tolerable. As others mentioned, on the pain scale the haemoglobin test hurts more than the actual blood donation, and that doesn't hurt very much. You're doing a good thing. :)

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Postby Zohar » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:32 am UTC

I don't remember it hurting more than usual. In fact, I heard it said that because in shots (vaccinations and such) they pump stuff into you, it hurts more than blood donations. Anyway, the pain only lasts the first half second when they stick it in, after that it doesn't hurt, just might be a bit sore for a short while.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Ashlah » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:56 am UTC

Sigh, I'm so sad I can't donate anymore. I miss it.

I'll just agree with the others and say it doesn't hurt much at all, and the finger prick is the worst part (but bearable).

My blood bank always had delicious cookies. But when they came to my University's campus, they had gross pizza.

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Postby Daojia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:19 am UTC

Jessica wrote:It feels the same as when they draw blood for medical tests. Except you can feel it draining your soul blood out of your body. And if you're awesome like me, you can push out a pint of blood in 5 minutes.


5 Minutes? Terrible effort. My brother and I raced for it; I got it out in 3 and barely maintained consciousness. He stuttered along to second place in 9. Lucidity be damned, I was the victor. They gave me a sausage roll.
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Postby Shro » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:12 am UTC

Daojia wrote:5 Minutes? Terrible effort. My brother and I raced for it; I got it out in 3 and barely maintained consciousness. He stuttered along to second place in 9. Lucidity be damned, I was the victor. They gave me a sausage roll.
Oh good. I'm not the only one that takes pride in mah blood donating skills. How about this: I have donated 8 units of blood in my life so far. A gallon!
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Angua » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:31 pm UTC

For me (who's also scared of needles) just don't look at it when they're putting the needle in and you'll be ok. It's ok to look at once it's in, just the act of pricking is what gets me. The needle doesn't hurt that much (in comparison to other needles), and once it's in and you stay still it doesn't hurt, except for a possible dull ache.

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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Sungura » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:36 pm UTC

So I never did donate back at the start of December. I wasn't over by the right building and I was lazy to walk the half mile over there in the cold. I was at the red cross site looking for other times, and somehow accidentally signed up for this Friday. I guess now I'm committed. *quivers* I am terrified of needles and I have had blood drawn at the doc's three times before. Once it went okay, just a small bruise and wasn't too horrible. Other two times they dug around, it hurt horribly, and I ended up with bruising on my whole forarm and could barely use my arm for a few days it hurt so bad. So...yeah. Not looking forward to this. I keep feeling like I should and then chicken out because all I remember are those two times that it was so horrid. I have a good pain tolerance, but even I was in tears trying to not scream as they dug. ...I'm worried and scared but I guess I can't get out of it now. :/
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:57 pm UTC

So I never did donate back at the start of December. I wasn't over by the right building and I was lazy to walk the half mile over there in the cold.
not to be a dick....but that's a pretty lame excuse to not save someone's life....people forget how important whole blood is...if you were on the other side of the campus, and you knew someone that half mile away was drowning and you were the only one who knew about it, wouldn't you run across campus cold or not?

as far as the pain is concerned...as everyone else said it's negligible (depending on the phlebotomist)...the reason getting medicine from a shot hurts is because they're injecting fluid into tissue (i.e. muscle) which pushes said tissue around...and that tissue tends to be loaded with nerves and pain receptors...there are no nerves/pain receptors in veins....so the only pain you'll feel is the needle going through your skin.

for inexperienced (or just plain shitty phlebotomists)....just because you're donating blood doesn't mean you don't have a right to make sure that the person drawing your blood is skilled in their craft. when you're doing your "pre-donation" questions...make sure to mention MULTIPLE times that this is the first time you're giving blood and that you're nervous. request the most experienced person on staff at the time to do your draw so you don't have a bad experience. if the person tries once and fails, give them the benefit of the doubt and let them try once more...but blood drawing is a 2 strikes and you're out scenario...in most medical situations (hospitals included) there are rules in place (either in place by the medical institution or by state law) that limit blood draw attempts to 2 consecutive sticks...after that second stick someone else has to try...if someone tries more than twice request another sticker...also, get familiar with your veins before you go...put a tourniquet on (for a little while...not too long) and see where your biggest/most visible veins are...this will give you an idea of where they will PROBABLY be sticking you, which can help you judge how much it might hurt (right in the middle of the inside of your elbow will hurt more than towards the outside)...REMEMBER don't EVER tell them what to do/where to stick unless you actually know what you're talking about. i'm an experienced phlebotomist so i give them "advice" as to which vein they should use, but i've done QUITE a lot of blood drawing in my day (somewhere in the order of thousands of sticks)..speaking from experience, there's not much more annoying than someone telling you which vein to use, 9 times out of 10 they tell you to use the WORST possible vein because they "think" it's the best one (or they think it's the one that "everyone else uses" when they get their blood drawn)...these people do this as a job because they know what they're doing (most of the time)...let them pick which vein they think is best

Also, bring a friend and make sure that you can sit at tables close enough to hold your friend's hand (even if you're a dude...it's not ghey to be scared), this will give you enough support and distraction that you probably will have to ask if the needle is in.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:01 pm UTC

I've donated blood once, and will probably never do it again. Out of solidarity for my gay friends.
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Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:21 pm UTC

Out of solidarity for my gay friends.
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Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:31 pm UTC

Gay men are disallowed from giving blood because of "the aids". Thus I won't give blood until this outdated and homophobic policy is removed.

And yes, I know that there is a greater incident of AIDS in the gay male population. But, if you only take people who have only had safe sex (as is one of the other questions asked...) the likelihood of AIDS getting past the blood test is very unlikely.
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Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:43 pm UTC

that's actually my bad for asking that....i mis-remembered the question in the questionnaire....i seemed to remember it being a "before x date" question...but it's a "since x date" question..
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Postby Milyandel » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:05 pm UTC

Ashlah wrote:Sigh, I'm so sad I can't donate anymore. I miss it.

Same here. I'm not afraid of needles, but waiting for someone to stick a needle in your arm is hardly ever pleasant, so I was a bit nervous every time. But the personnel in the blood bank were regularly more skilled than an average school or health care center nurse, in my opinion, so it hurt clearly less than a normal blood test. And afterwards I felt great both emotionally and physically - it was just great to think that I had helped someone, and I never fainted or even felt dizzy despite my small size (5'1", 115 lbs.). (Happiness may have had something to do with adrenalin rush and great sandwiches with coffee afterwards too, but all in all, I have only good memories about the whole thing.) Good luck :)!
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:22 pm UTC

It doesn't hurt at all, to repeat what everyone is saying, however, some people (SOME OTHER PEOPLE) get kind of nauseous and light headed from seeing a needle in their arm and MAY OR MAY NOT start to pass out or get all pale like... But whatever, the nurses are always really motherly and they give you chips and cookies and juice!
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Postby Quadropus » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:33 pm UTC

Another thing to remember; the person who will get your blood will most likely have lost theirs in a much more painful way than a needle.

Also, well done for donating. I want to give away some of red juice soon.
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Postby Ashlah » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:41 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:Gay men are disallowed from giving blood because of "the aids". Thus I won't give blood until this outdated and homophobic policy is removed.

And yes, I know that there is a greater incident of AIDS in the gay male population. But, if you only take people who have only had safe sex (as is one of the other questions asked...) the likelihood of AIDS getting past the blood test is very unlikely.

I am equally disgusted that gay men aren't allowed to donate blood, but I don't think it's fair to deny life-saving blood because of that policy. During the most recent blood drive at my University, there was a "Donate blood for those can't" campaign run by a queer women's group.
Here's an article about it.
And a guest commentary from a gay man asking people to donate.
Gay rights are incredibly important, and it's terrible that gay men are discriminated against in this way, but it's not a good form of protest, IMO, to even further reduce the amount of donors because of it.

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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:47 pm UTC

I don't see how it's not a good form of protest. If they don't "need" gay men's blood, then they don't need my tranny blood. Anyway, I dislike how they treated me at the blood bank. but that's neither here nor there.

If you want something to change, making it so that they don't have to change isn't going to help.
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Postby Spacemilk » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:55 pm UTC

Yes, it's a form of protest that, theoretically, will eventually make people start to pay attention... but it harms people, and it particularly harms the people who aren't in charge of changing the rules. I mean, I'm sure it has the potential to be effective, but just because a protest is effective doesn't mean that it should be done. Particularly if it's harmful. I sort of think this is an "ends justify the means" type of discussion. Just my 2 cents.

Anyway, I agree with everyone else in this thread; the finger prick hurts way more than when they draw the blood! I tend to flinch and cringe at the finger prick but stoically and quietly brave the needle insertion. For some reason the actually drawing of the blood seems uncomfortable to me, as though I can feel the blood draining out; but I think that may be partially in my head.

Also my average blood-giving time is 4 minutes. :D And I hit one gallon during the last drive I participated in! huzzah
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Postby semicharmed » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:54 pm UTC

I wish I could donate, but I have a pretty intense syncope reaction every time my blood is draw, and it's more severe the more tubes are taken. And they stop drawing once you've passed out, so it would be a waste of a chair/equipment/nurse's time for me to attempt it. Also, my blood pressure drops — intensely — when it happens, so I doubt I'd even be able to fill the bag even if they did leave the needle in once I've passed out.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:02 pm UTC

@Jessica: I remember having this conversation with you a while back about the homophobic policy, and how despite being rooted in some vague semblance of reality (before they knew what HIV was, they knew that it was rampant in gay populations, thus, don't accept gay blood? Maybe?), protestations against donation don't send a message that needs to be heard, it just limits the amount of blood someone in need can potentially have.

Of course, this is all moot if you're AB+
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Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:10 pm UTC

it's sort of like being a vegetarian with the hopes of "sticking it to the man"...beef producers don't care if YOU don't eat meat...as long as someone eats meat.

though...i whole heartedly support your right to protest anything you wish...as long as you fully understand the reasons for your protest (some people don't), the possible ramifications of your protest (for yourself and others), and fully accept the fact that your protest may/may not have any significant impact on your desired outcome
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Postby Izawwlgood » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:15 pm UTC

Oh, yeah, I wasn't suggesting you should stop. In fact, I feel that engaging people around you in dialog about it may exactly serve the purpose of your protest, that is, spreading awareness of the issue. The point I was trying to get at is that by denying donations, you aren't sending a message to people in charge of policy, and are just potentially preventing people who can be helped, get help (That sounds way more confrontational then I intend it too...)

I'd equate it more to not giving change to the homeless on the street to send a message to the President about homelessness... It may be a perfectly reasonable policy, but the message isn't getting there.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby scrovak » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:15 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:I don't see how it's not a good form of protest. If they don't "need" gay men's blood, then they don't need my tranny blood. Anyway, I dislike how they treated me at the blood bank. but that's neither here nor there.

If you want something to change, making it so that they don't have to change isn't going to help.


Would you stand on a beach and allow a person to drown, just to prove the officials should allow anyone to save them?

Or a better analogy, would you stand over someone bleeding out from a knife wound, and let them bleed, to grind your ax against the lack of knife control laws?
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Sungura » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:22 pm UTC

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So I never did donate back at the start of December. I wasn't over by the right building and I was lazy to walk the half mile over there in the cold.
not to be a dick....but that's a pretty lame excuse to not save someone's life....people forget how important whole blood is...if you were on the other side of the campus, and you knew someone that half mile away was drowning and you were the only one who knew about it, wouldn't you run across campus cold or not?

Hint: if you need to start something with "not to be a dick" then you know the following makes you sound like one, so why say it at all? Maybe I should have phrased it better: "I did not feel like walking with a migraine after a long day in the lab when I still had samples running a mile across campus in below freezing temperatures the day I forgot my hat to go do something I am terrified of doing." Also, your analogy sucks, as I am not the only one who knows that blood is needed.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:25 pm UTC

scrovak wrote:
Jessica wrote:I don't see how it's not a good form of protest. If they don't "need" gay men's blood, then they don't need my tranny blood. Anyway, I dislike how they treated me at the blood bank. but that's neither here nor there.

If you want something to change, making it so that they don't have to change isn't going to help.
Would you stand on a beach and allow a person to drown, just to prove the officials should allow anyone to save them?

Or a better analogy, would you stand over someone bleeding out from a knife wound, and let them bleed, to grind your ax against the lack of knife control laws?
Uh, not the same thing at all?

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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:33 pm UTC

Maybe I should have phrased it better:
quite probably...as "i didn't go because i had an ass ton of work that i wasn't finished doing and couldn't leave, as well as having a migraine (which would make donating blood a hellish experience)" sounds a whole lot better than "i didn't feel like walking"
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby sophyturtle » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:38 pm UTC

I can donate at work (large hospital) that is not through the red cross. Well, I could in theory if I could pass their hemoglobin test. I like to think they are not as discriminatory, and I am so wrong.

Is crap it is. Looks like I cannot give blood because I have had sex with both a sex worker (committed relationship, not client) and a bisexual male. I guess those HIV tests I have been taking about yearly don't matter for anything.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Sungura » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:00 pm UTC

Yeah, I can understand people not wanting to donate to an organization that is being discriminatory. There are other ways to donate blood (directly at a hospital, for instance) that may not run into such issues. Or, being in research, there are times to test assays and such people will draw blood from each other. I would assume they have to test all blood for things like AIDS so I don't see why they should be against accepting blood from a whole group of people.

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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Shro » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:07 pm UTC

I don't know if this has been mentioned but DRINK A LOT OF WATER before donating. Not right before, of course, but the day or two before. Up your iron intake. Eat some spinach or red meat, or any variety of foods with iron before donating. This makes sure your iron content is high enough to donate, and helps you recover faster. While I was donating as a college student, I would forget to drink a good amount of water before hand, and it would always be more difficult to find my veins in that case. If they give you a little ball to squeeze, while you are laying there after you've been stuck with the needle, squeeze it on and off while trying not to move your arm. Just flex the squeezy muscles. This also makes it go faster.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby Philwelch » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:08 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:I've donated blood once, and will probably never do it again. Out of solidarity for my gay friends.


*sigh*

Due to my sexual history, I'm not eligible to donate blood, and neither is anyone I sleep with. I totally agree with you that it sucks. But this is not the time nor the place to make a self-righteous stand for people like me. Because when I end up in a hospital bleeding to death, I want some fucking blood. So no thanks for the solidarity.
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby DSenette » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:16 pm UTC

listen...i'm not personally attacking you (no matter if it sounds like i am)...and you can have any reason for doing/not doing anything that you choose...but when you make that reason known to someone else...then be prepared for someone to judge that reason (oh noez....mah gawd someone is judging!...yeah we all judge each other all the time..)...it's also perfectly fine for you to not give a shit about someone else's judgement

my original comment was pointing to the fact that simply "not feeling like walking" (which is what your original complaint was) is a crappy excuse for something...doesn't change the fact that you did/didn't do something...i'm just pointing out that it's a poor excuse
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Re: So, I'm donating blood, and I have a question.

Postby eSOANEM » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:30 pm UTC

sophyturtle wrote:I can donate at work (large hospital) that is not through the red cross. Well, I could in theory if I could pass their hemoglobin test. I like to think they are not as discriminatory, and I am so wrong.


How on earth do they justify the ban on people who've lived in the UK or Europe. By those rules I'll never be able to give blood there (I've lived in the UK exactly three years up to 1996 (born 1994)) which is completely ridiculous. My mother who has been donating blood ever since she's been able to would also not be able to give blood as she has lived in that time range.

I can think of no possible justification for a rule like that one but if you can tell me what it is I would very much like to know.
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