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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:22 pm UTC
by Dr. Diaphanous
exempli grātiā = for the sake of an example. The lines are used in Latin to differentiate a long vowel from a short one.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:11 pm UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
Wiktionary wrote:Abbreviation of Latin exempli gratiā (“for example”). Gratiā here is in the ablative case which is translated into the prepositional phrase "for the sake". Exempli is a genitive case noun meaning "of example". Therefore, the full phrase is "for the sake of example".[1] Previously abbreviated to ex. gr.


The lines seem somewhat inconsitent. If you go to the page for the full phrase, you'll see that it claims it should be spelled exemplī grātiā, but on the page for e.g. it's exempli gratiā. And Dr. Diaphanous used exempli grātiā. So who knows?

Edit: stupid new page...

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:44 am UTC
by Magnanimous
The only time I actually care about the macrons is when they change the meaning of a word. See: liber (book, as in library) versus līber (free, as in liberty).

But... Unless you're majoring in Latin, you can just ignore them.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:03 am UTC
by M1k3_Nix
Fast-Debrid wrote:
Felltir wrote:
My own one, this christmas, was seeing the bear in the Toblerone logo. Noone I've shown it to has ever seen it before.



Whow! That's so cool. When I read your post, I was imagining how could the Toblerone bear (as I call it) can be hidden behind one of the letters with one of its eyes peaking. It turns out its not hidden. It never was. This is so cool! I'm actually smiling right now. I bet anybody I'll show it to will just be as surprised as I am right now. :P


Wow, thats actually stunned me. How have I never noticed that :O

Good observation skills Felltir.

For those that haven't seen it, look in the spoiler.
Spoiler:
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:38 am UTC
by TimelordSimone
It is a good job I don't eat Toblerones, because I will never be able to not see that ever again.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:50 am UTC
by the_bandersnatch
You're right, the bear in the Toblerone is obvious once you see it, and I can't believe it was such a famous character too!

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:52 pm UTC
by userxp
The count is called Count Von Count because he likes to count!

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:55 pm UTC
by emceng
Sir, sire. Dame, dam.

Hmmmm.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:53 am UTC
by eev
Realised ages ago that almost everyone has this weird hairless spot on the elbow. Just kind of around from the boney bit. I noticed it out of the blue on my friend and I just have no clue why it is there. I haven't found anyone without it, and I have no clue what causes it.
But yeah. Hairless elbow.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:42 am UTC
by Magnanimous
The word "couple". If you couple two things together, you have a couple of things. (Presumably the "amount" meaning came from the "connect" meaning.)

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:06 pm UTC
by UniqueScreenname
The Scyphozoa wrote:
I... didn't get that one.

(I was afraid to say "catch" that one because I thought it might turn out to be a pun somehow. Now I'm paranoid of unintentional puns.

This is no way to live.)


I will make this my signature if I ever figure out how to do that.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:53 pm UTC
by Ptolom
UniqueScreenname wrote:
The Scyphozoa wrote:
I... didn't get that one.

(I was afraid to say "catch" that one because I thought it might turn out to be a pun somehow. Now I'm paranoid of unintentional puns.

This is no way to live.)


I will make this my signature if I ever figure out how to do that.

Click User Control Panel -> Profile -> Edit Signature.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:08 am UTC
by UniqueScreenname
Why thank you.

A while ago I figured out that the word vile is the word evil with the e at the end. :shock: Then I thought about it more and realized evil, vile, villain, villify, and *possibly* violent all had the same root. HHINNTB?

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:27 am UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:14 am UTC
by TheChewanater
deluxe = de-lux = of luxury.

I just noticed that the other day. Online etymology dictionaries seem too agree with me.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:27 pm UTC
by You, sir, name?
I would thought that would be "of light".

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:44 pm UTC
by Ptolom
You, sir, name? wrote:I would thought that would be "of light".

I always thought "lux" was a portmanteau of "luminous" and "flux".

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:24 am UTC
by UniqueScreenname
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.


So, it's a coincidence that all of these words that seem to have the same origins have the same general connotation? I think that's insane. Not insane as in I don't believe you, but insane like things that convenient shouldn't be coincidences.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:40 am UTC
by EmptySet
UniqueScreenname wrote:
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.


So, it's a coincidence that all of these words that seem to have the same origins have the same general connotation? I think that's insane. Not insane as in I don't believe you, but insane like things that convenient shouldn't be coincidences.


English has a lot of words from various places. I think it's somewhat inevitable that those kind of coincidences will occur occasionally. Plus there are plenty of other vil- words which aren't violence-related - violin, violet, village, villa... also vial, which in modern times at least is pronounced the same as "vile".

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:43 am UTC
by e^iπ+1=0
evil: definitely not related

vile and vilify: actually from the same root, vilis, which means more or less "cheap, worthless, base, common"

violent: came about during roughly the same time from the same languages, although from the roots violentia and violentus, meaning "vehemence, impetuosity, forcible"

villain: again, same time and languages, but villa means "country house, farm"; I haven't been able to find more details on the modern meaning switch


But, is it an accident that in the 1200s English got a bunch of French and Latin thrown in? Nope.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:19 pm UTC
by UniqueScreenname
EmptySet wrote:
English has a lot of words from various places. I think it's somewhat inevitable that those kind of coincidences will occur occasionally. Plus there are plenty of other vil- words which aren't violence-related - violin, violet, village, villa... also vial, which in modern times at least is pronounced the same as "vile".


I understand that not every word with vil- or viol- is related. Not every word with bi- has something to do with 2 or halves. I just found these words that seemed to be very connected, and apparently I was wrong. I can admit that. I've learned from this.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:53 pm UTC
by kaimason1
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:The lines seem somewhat inconsitent. If you go to the page for the full phrase, you'll see that it claims it should be spelled exemplī grātiā, but on the page for e.g. it's exempli gratiā. And Dr. Diaphanous used exempli grātiā. So who knows?


Actually, the lines don't exist at all in real Latin. Neither did spaces, punctuation, or lowercase. All of these things were introduced for the sake of clarity and distinction between words or, more often, distinction between cases, especially between the ablative and dative cases, which are often the same. The use of long marks is, therefore, rather inconsistent, because there are no formal rules about how to use them. For example, generally the only time I would ever use them would be to distinguish between case endings, while others may not use them at all or use them all over the place; In poetry, due to scansion, their use may even have less to do with the word and a lot more to do with the placement of the word in the poem.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:59 pm UTC
by Menacing Spike
TheChewanater wrote:deluxe = de-lux = of luxury.

I just noticed that the other day. Online etymology dictionaries seem too agree with me.


The french for "deluxe" is "de luxe", which means "of very high quality and price". (luxe = luxury)

Luxure is an older world meaning hot, sinful sex.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:41 pm UTC
by rigwarl
Not to be confused with righteous, boring sex.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:41 pm UTC
by Menacing Spike
rigwarl wrote:Not to be confused with righteous, boring sex.


WOMAN HAPPY? DOING IT WRONG

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:18 pm UTC
by pseudoidiot
"Frigidaire" brand of refrigerators and freezers.

Frigid + air.

Last night was the first time I'd ever spoken it aloud and until then I'd never made that connection.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:38 pm UTC
by Samik
I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.




Oh, also, OreIda potatoes coming from Oregon and Idaho.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:32 am UTC
by bluebambue
Samik wrote:I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.
.
Whoa.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:53 am UTC
by Magnanimous
bluebambue wrote:
Samik wrote:I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.
.
Whoa.

... Whoa.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:04 am UTC
by Shivahn
As a kid I heard that commercial on the radio, and told my parents "Not French kiss!"

I thought I was especially clever at the time.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:43 pm UTC
by UniqueScreenname
Neonate

Neo - new
Nate - born

Neonate = newborn

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:24 pm UTC
by Ptolom
I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:36 pm UTC
by Whelan
How's your knowledge of oxidative phosphoyrlation, cos you'll have been doing hat all your life with probably little to no knowledge of it at all.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:48 pm UTC
by Ptolom
Whelan wrote:How's your knowledge of oxidative phosphoyrlation, cos you'll have been doing hat all your life with probably little to no knowledge of it at all.

That's...biochemistry?

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:54 pm UTC
by Whelan
Yeah, the terminal stage of Aerobic respiration.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:57 pm UTC
by Ptolom
Whelan wrote:Yeah, the terminal stage of Aerobic respiration.

Ah well, that's okay. I only respire anaerobically. I have the worst muscle cramps though.

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:57 am UTC
by doogly
Ptolom wrote:I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

What device are you using that's still CRT?

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:00 am UTC
by Shivahn
doogly wrote:
Ptolom wrote:I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

What device are you using that's still CRT?

My monitor is CRT. I got it in seventh grade. I'm.. like a year or two out of college now.

Yeahhhh I should probably buy a new monitor. This one is so much fun to degauss though!

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:49 am UTC
by Ser Pounce-a-lot
Detective Robert Goren (Vincent D'Onofrio) from Law and Order Criminal Intent is also Edgar from Men in Black and Gomer Pyle from Full Metal Jacket. HHINNTB?

Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:47 am UTC
by Felstaff
Shivahn wrote:This one is so much fun to degauss though!

Does it go *CLICK!* Thwonggggg ?


Mine went *CLICK!* Thwonggggg