uncivlengr wrote: Mokele wrote:
uncivlengr wrote: I found it funny that Kurushimi suddenly felt the need to revisit this thread to defend watching sponge bob. I don't even know how children watch that show.
Are you kidding? Before I completely cancelled cable, it was often the *only* show in 600+ channels that was remotely watchable at any given time of day. In between the annoying noises and simplistic characters, there's actually some surprisingly dark humor and some pretty good "just for the grownups" jokes.
Hell, I'll go so far as to say it's better than any post-season-5 Family Guy, most of the recent Simpsons, and a large segment of Cartoon "throw any random shit on the air so stoners can laugh at bright colors" Network.
If you watch a kids' show because you enjoy the few bits that are "just for grownups", why not just watch a show that's actually
just for grownups? You get all the parts you enjoy without the annoying parts.
Because those shows are almost universally terrible. Seriously, have you seen TV lately? It's fucking awful. IME, there's usually a set of 4-5 shows every year that are halfway decent, consisting of an even mix of "renewed and good but will be cancelled soon" and "new and will drive off a cliff within 2 seasons, if that". Most of those are on 13-episode seasons, so that's a very limited quantity of watchable entertainment per year.
The rest of TV is just awful. You've got crap like American Bland Music Contest and Douchebag Shore competing against Law & Order: Parking Enforcement and CSI: Omaha, while Discover's various channels run such intellectually stimulating fare as Watch Shit Blow Up, CGI Dinosaurs With Bad Science, and Irrational Beliefs That Get Ratings, liberally interspersed with whatever stock wildlife footage they can splice together into a show. News is basically a wasteland, Sci-Fi seems to think deliberately campy modern B-movies never get old and are the ideal filler for the 99% time not occupied by their single watchable show, and Comedy Central is being held afloat solely by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
Honestly, most of the TV shows I've seen in the past 10 years have had weaker characters, more predictable plots, and poorer execution than most Spongebob episodes. Between that and the transparent substitution of sex and violence for concepts and originality, there's almost nothing worth watching.
I'm not saying that kids shows are necessarily all better - I firmly hold to Sturgeon's law: 99% of everything is crap
- but rather that the quality overlaps more than you admit, to the point that some kids shows are better than many adult shows, especially those which don't take themselves too seriously.
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