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Postby semicharmed » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:47 pm UTC

I've been really lucky, I guess, because I've really only ever had good sex (and awesome sex, with a couple of times that were mind-blowing). And the less-than-good stuff generally falls into one of two situations a) me needing to stop because we've already had ridiculous amounts of awesome sex in a short time and I realize if we don't stop right now, I'm going to be uncomfortable or b) involves things like falling off the bed or other mid-sex awkwardness.
... I also get off reallllly easily, especially from PIV sex — for some reason I don't get off as hard from either oral or fingers — but I also really enjoy just naked cuddling or random makeouts while we're cooking dinner.

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Postby Isotope_238 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:49 pm UTC

I've never had sex. I live in a conservative Christian home, and I'm fairly comfortable talking to my parents about sex. I know that sex can be anywhere from out of this world to really bad, but I have no interest in seeing for myself. I'm choosing not to have sex unless I get married, because I believe it's the right thing to do and I'll be happiest this way.

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Postby GraphiteGirl » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:59 am UTC

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Even back when I was pretty religious, I was always doubtful about the whole 'virgin until marriage' thing (my raging libido and burgeoning agnosticism probably had something to do with that). Thing I love about this thread: we can both say that and both respect each other's opinions, and not feel the need to defend or attack based on a difference of belief, which I think is pretty awesome :D

I'm excited! Today I picked up my first Pill pack from the uni chemist. The experience with my GP when requesting the prescription* was... less than pleasant, but no matter - I have contraception!
Experience with the doctor, quoted from an old rant, for context (don't worry about the self esteem stuff under the spoiler, it has calmed down significantly since):
I had my first ever conversation with the family doctor about contraception and he had the bedside manner of a confused armadillo with a migraine.
"You know you can be in a relationship and not have sex, right?"
Yes thank you sir I am aware. Now can we please talk about things like side effects and different Pill options? No? Ok sure, just give me a prescription for the obvious choice without discussing the relative merits of any of the different Pills then, fine, whatever. Oh what's that, you want to weigh me now? Oh ok.
Spoilered for weight stuff and self esteem/body dissatisfaction stuff.
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Yes thank you doctor, now would you care to tell me the relevance please? Oh, it has to do with increased risk of blood clots, fair enough, but you know it would be really lovely if you'd told me why you were weighing me before you told me to drop four or five kilos. Oh well, at least I have perfect blood pressure.
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*way back in December - I got the prescription and then my grandfather had health dramas and the family went into crisis mode, so sexy things weren't really in the forefront of my mind.

I think, on rereading that, it's time for me to get meself a gynecologist. How were everyone else's experiences with this sort of thing when they were dealing with bc for the first time? Is it normal to raise the issue of weight?
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Postby Pez Dispens3r » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:22 am UTC

Yeah, I do sympathize with women for the dramas they have to go through to get BC. Considering I can go down the road anytime I want and walk into Harry's and hold my head up high and say in a loud, steady, voice, "Harry, I want you to sell me a condom!" (Well, it's still a little bit embarrassing, but I can drive to the supermarket a few suburbs away and do it.)
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Postby GraphiteGirl » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:53 am UTC

I see what you did there.

We did initially start with condoms, which are conveniently easy for either him or me to purchase, but as it turns out I really don't like 'em much, and using nothing is hardly an option unless I want to have an Alien stomach parasite bursting out of me in the near future :P
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Postby dragon » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:39 pm UTC

GG, after an experience like that I'd be trying out a different doctor, or doctors, if that's something possible to do. I've bounced around a few since moving down to melb, until I found one that fits well enough. (Then that one left and it was back to trying out different people again. Found a couple I like now, yay.)

Gynecological stuff: For routine pap smears I've asked at whatever doctor's clinic I'd visited last to arrange it for me, it was impersonal and I was okay with that. I still get embarrassed easily about this sort of stuff. I've used the Alfred sexual health centre in the city once - they were pretty awesome. Free and friendly and helpful and polite and completely anonymous if you want it to be. They can get very busy but tell you the best times to come in so you aren't waiting too long.
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Postby semicharmed » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:24 pm UTC

GG - I don't know what pill you were given a prescription for, but I know that some of the newer, super-low dose pills are definitely affected by how much you weigh. But those are generally the ones that are super sensitive, and need to be taken at the same time (give or take 15 minutes on either side) every day to ensure effectiveness.
Also, I generally get weighed at my annual gyno appointment, anyway, and pee in a cup, and do all that fun stuff before I go in and see the doctor. Who's always been awesome with the birth control stuff, so if you're able, I'd definitely suggest seeing a gyn and not just a GP.

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Postby sophyturtle » Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:57 pm UTC

Oh, I need to make an OBGYN appt. Thanks for reminding me.

Also, mine is awesome. As a rule I try to have only female doctors. Something about them having the same body. That, and the males I have gone to were kinda crap. Like that guy who spoke to the student looking over his shoulder about 20 times more than he did to me ("see the nice healthy pink tissue?" No I don't jerk. Get me a mirror. Oh, you weren't talking to me. Why on earth would you talk to me when you are looking at my insides. Silly me.) Of the guy how was guided through the whole thing by the nurse ("now, be careful when you close the speculum so nothing gets caught in the" "op" "ow". Jerk.) The woman I have gone to are friendly and polite and treat me like a human. I am sure this could happen with anyone, but I also have issues with guys that just makes me more relaxed to have a woman look for my ovaries.
But yeah. The last time I went in we talked about my day of the week socks as well as aspects of my life that could possibly impact stuff (like my sex life and my happiness/safeness/etc. with it without any judgment).
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Postby Jessica » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:01 pm UTC

I wish I had a female doctor... I like my doc, and he's good and quite quite gay, but still.
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Postby Isotope_238 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:20 pm UTC

GraphiteGirl wrote:Thing I love about this thread: we can both say that and both respect each other's opinions, and not feel the need to defend or attack based on a difference of belief, which I think is pretty awesome :D


Exactly. That's all I have to say.

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Postby PictureSarah » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:03 am UTC

GG - I've never had an OBGYN raise the issue of my weight with regards to birth control (and I have just recently moved from the "obese" BMI range into merely "overweight"). They have raised the issue of my weight when talking about my PCOS and insulin resistance, though. They have also made sure I don't smoke before prescribing hormonal birth control, because of the increased risk of blood clots and heart problems that is related to birth control when combined with smoking, age, and/or overweightness. It's my understanding that those women who use the birth control patch are at the most risk for blood clots.

My first ever bc prescripton wasn't really a shining example of good medical care, though. My first hormonal bc was the depo provera shot, and the doctor told me that the most common side effect was weight gain, and I would probably gain at least 7 pounds. She failed to mention the bone density loss, the crippling depression, the bleeding for a month and a half at a time and then no bleeding for a month and a half at a time, or the shedding of an actual uterine lining rather than just blood (which I mistakenly thought was a miscarriage). Incidentally, I lost weight while on the Depo.
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Postby Moo » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:37 am UTC

(Hi Womanthread! I've missed you).

Too much fora to catch up on, so I'm just respondong to Sarah's post and don't know the original question.
Just recently my UK doc mentioned that with my 30th birhtday coming up, I am starting to tick more of the boxes to be aware of the risks of my BC, being overweight (well, obese) being one of them. Increased risk of stroke and all that.

That was just before we moved to South Africa though. News, spoilered for personal and not wanting to jump the gun.
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I went to my old gyn who specialises in hormones and diagnosed my PCOS, to talk about getting pregnant. Now I'm taking folic acid and weening myself off anti-depressants (not proven safe in pregnancy; I'm just seeing how it goes without them) and I'll leave my pill when I have a clearer picture of me without the depression meds. Then I'll have to see if my cycle is regular on my own. If not I'll need a little help ovulating but Hey! We're gonna try for a baby some time this year.
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Postby Rinsaikeru » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:46 am UTC

Whenever I hear your story about DP my uterus clenches in sympathy Sarah, I've never used any hormonal birth control--because it frankly scares the crap out of me. Also my mother had cervical cancer and hormonal bc is one of the things on the list of potential causes. (She's fine now and in remission).

I realize my fear about it is somewhat irrational, but my cycle is clockwork and I don't want to mess it up.
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Postby poxic » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:14 am UTC

YAY MOO! In a really casual and relaxed way, that is. :wink:
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Postby Moo » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:54 pm UTC

:D hi poxic!!

Whoa Rinsaikeru is purple! Grats.
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Postby podbaydoor » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:57 pm UTC

Welcome back, Moo!! And good luck. :)
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Postby Moo » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:00 pm UTC

:) thank you, on both counts. Nice to see you.
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Postby Rinsaikeru » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:38 pm UTC

Thanks Moo, also welcome back.
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Postby Jessica » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:23 pm UTC

*huggles for moo-face* :D
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Postby crowey » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:43 pm UTC

yaymoo! and potential minimoos too! :mrgreen:

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Aaw guys *blush* I have a good mind to hug you both!
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Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:43 pm UTC

(Spoilered so as to be ungoogleable...I hope)

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Umm...so potentially embarrassing/offensive question: does anyone here have any knowledge/experience of having PCOS but *not* being overweight? Because I know a lot of the treatment for that can be just losing weight - which I definitely don't need to do. I have like every. single. symptom. save that one. I'm scheduled to see a specialist after seeing my GP, but just wondered if anyone here knew/had gone through that. I know they say it's technically possible, and there are cases, but is it something anyone has had happen?
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:06 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:(Spoilered so as to be ungoogleable...I hope)

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Umm...so potentially embarrassing/offensive question: does anyone here have any knowledge/experience of having PCOS but *not* being overweight? Because I know a lot of the treatment for that can be just losing weight - which I definitely don't need to do. I have like every. single. symptom. save that one. I'm scheduled to see a specialist after seeing my GP, but just wondered if anyone here knew/had gone through that. I know they say it's technically possible, and there are cases, but is it something anyone has had happen?

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I have PCOS but am slightly overweight. There are some things that can be done that does not involve loosing weight. Going on the pill is normally the first course of action. You may also be put on a drug called Metformin, depending on what your insulin is like. Looking eating more low GI food may help with insulin and blood sugar levels. Sorry I can't be much more help, but there's a few of us with PCOS on the fora if you have more questions/want some support :)
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Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:31 pm UTC

blue_eyedspacemonkey wrote:
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I have PCOS but am slightly overweight. There are some things that can be done that does not involve loosing weight. Going on the pill is normally the first course of action. You may also be put on a drug called Metformin, depending on what your insulin is like. Looking eating more low GI food may help with insulin and blood sugar levels. Sorry I can't be much more help, but there's a few of us with PCOS on the fora if you have more questions/want some support :)


Thanks. :) Actually, I remember the doctor did mention the pill as a possibility - I'm not crazy about the idea though, since I'm leery of side-effects (and one side effect is gaining weight, and I *know* that doesn't help things)...what to do :roll:

I strongly suspect this is what's wrong, but I guess I'll wait to see what the Dr says...if I do I'll definitely take you up on that (is there a thread or something already or does one not make one just for that?). :)
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:39 pm UTC

Best thing to do is talk to your Dr. They'll probably try to convince you of the benefits of the pill (especially if you've been missing periods regularly), but just air your fears with them, and see what happens.

As far as I know there isn't a thread for it at the moment, I'm not sure where the best place to make it would be, to be honest. It's up to you-maybe PM a mod? Otherwise talking about it in here would be fine, probably get a fair amount of traffic :)
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Postby Ashlah » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:44 pm UTC

Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:Thanks. :) Actually, I remember the doctor did mention the pill as a possibility - I'm not crazy about the idea though, since I'm leery of side-effects (and one side effect is gaining weight, and I *know* that doesn't help things)...what to do :roll:

Hm...I have PCOS, and I actually lost weight when I started the pill and got that under control. But since you say you don't have that particular symptom of PCOS, I don't know if it would be the same for you, or if you were have the weight-gain side effect. My PCOS symptoms are relatively mild, so I haven't had any treatment further than the pill (they did initially put me on another pill for hair growth...but the pill was huge and gross, and I decided my hair growth wasn't worth taking that monstrosity everyday, lol).

As for other side effects of the pill...it really varies from person to person and pill to pill, as you probably know. I've been taking the pill for about three years now, and I've had little to no side effects. But of course, there are other stories, such as my friend who went through severe depression upon starting hers. If you do have PCOS, your doc will likely want you to start hormonal birth control. If you decide to try them, just keep an eye on yourself, and be aware of any signs that the pill might not be the right fit for you.

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Postby Cheezwhiz Jenkins » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:48 am UTC

blue_eyedspacemonkey wrote:Best thing to do is talk to your Dr. They'll probably try to convince you of the benefits of the pill (especially if you've been missing periods regularly), but just air your fears with them, and see what happens.

As far as I know there isn't a thread for it at the moment, I'm not sure where the best place to make it would be, to be honest. It's up to you-maybe PM a mod? Otherwise talking about it in here would be fine, probably get a fair amount of traffic :)


Great advice - thanks. ;)

Alrighty then - I'll look around and see who has The Powah and ask...

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Cheezwhiz Jenkins wrote:Thanks. :) Actually, I remember the doctor did mention the pill as a possibility - I'm not crazy about the idea though, since I'm leery of side-effects (and one side effect is gaining weight, and I *know* that doesn't help things)...what to do :roll:

Hm...I have PCOS, and I actually lost weight when I started the pill and got that under control. But since you say you don't have that particular symptom of PCOS, I don't know if it would be the same for you, or if you were have the weight-gain side effect. My PCOS symptoms are relatively mild, so I haven't had any treatment further than the pill (they did initially put me on another pill for hair growth...but the pill was huge and gross, and I decided my hair growth wasn't worth taking that monstrosity everyday, lol).

As for other side effects of the pill...it really varies from person to person and pill to pill, as you probably know. I've been taking the pill for about three years now, and I've had little to no side effects. But of course, there are other stories, such as my friend who went through severe depression upon starting hers. If you do have PCOS, your doc will likely want you to start hormonal birth control. If you decide to try them, just keep an eye on yourself, and be aware of any signs that the pill might not be the right fit for you.


Well, I mean, it's not like it would be the absolute end of the world, I'm getting to the point where if all the rest of this went away, it would be worth it even if I gained 50 lbs . :mrgreen: But obviously, I'd much rather not gain a zillion pounds, and from my understanding it might exacerbate the problem a little bit.

The depression possibility worries me a little bit - I'm already on antibiotics, and they do truly horrid things to my frame of mind (call me crazy but I swear I can sometimes feel my mood dropping like a freaking ROCK a couple of hours after I take it). I'd quit them but what happens when I go off them is fairly alarming also (really gross acne, which is perhaps tmi but then we were discussing uterine chunks on page 1 so... :D). I hate being on medication in general anyhow.

Ah well, as I've been told I guess I need to just talk it over with my doctor and keep an eye out whatever treatment I decide on.
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:36 am UTC

There's a pill that I'm currently on, called Dianette. It's often prescribed for acne/PCOS and is a contraceptive pill. It's an awkward one-I don't think it's used in the US, and some people were told they couldn't be on it long term, and some people have been on it for years. There are some side effects-I had nausea for a few days and tender breasts. But it's settled down for me in under 3 weeks. Of course, YMMV. Yasmin, I believe is also a contraceptive pill that can be used for acne, and can be used long term. Once again, I've heard about side effects.
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Postby PictureSarah » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:25 pm UTC

I think it's likely you can have PCOS without being overweight. I am still a bit overweight (about 15 pounds), but I have lost enough weight that my doctor says my body *should* have started ovulating normally etc. again. It hasn't. Or at least it hadn't when I finally gave up and went back on hormonal birth control (NuvaRing) to control the irregular periods.
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Postby abitha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:45 pm UTC

Yes, you can definitely have PCOS without being overweight, although it's less common in people who aren't overweight.

I suspect that what your Doc suggests will be based on what symptoms you are finding most troublesome. If it's the irregular periods or acne, then the combined oral contraceptive pill may well be a good choice. If it's the fact that you're not ovulating and therefore can't get pregnant, clearly the pill won't be any good at all! If none of the symptoms are particularly bothersome to you, or if you're more worried about potential side effects of treatment than you are about the symptoms, it may be perfectly appropriate to do nothing at all (save perhaps checking your blood pressure, blood sugar and cholesterol every now and then).

The pill can have side effects, it's true, but many women use it with no/minimal problems. Is the possibility of weight gain the main thing that's putting you off, or are you more worried about other side effects? It's true that some women do gain weight on the pill, but by no means all do - and even if you do gain a few pounds, any effect that this might have on the PCOS would likely be offset by the positive effect of having your hormones in a better balance. As someone else pointed out, it may be a good idea to give the pill a go (assuming your doctor thinks this is the right option for you) but keeping an eye open for possible side effects, and if the side effects are becoming too problematic, you can always stop taking it.

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby HarleyQuinn » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:53 pm UTC

I've recently started having an issue with back acne. It's not pimples or anything, just blackheads and clogged pores. I don't think I've been doing anything differently to have caused this, I really don't know what to do about it. It's not all over, only the upper part- doesn't go below my shoulder blades. Either way, I find this a major annoyance.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby abitha » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:00 pm UTC

Back acne is pretty common, it's generally just a hormonal thing that happens with age (i don't know what age you are, but most commonly it would occur in teens/twenties, and resolve on its own as you get older). It's unlikely to be related to anything you've done or not done - and in fact the same applies to bad skin on your face or anywhere else, despite all the old wives' tales you hear that would suggest otherwise.

In terms of what to do about it, you've got various options. You can try various commercially available products (i don't have any specific recommendations, as i've never particularly suffered from skin problems myself, but no doubt other woman thread members can make suggestions). If this isn't working and/or the acne is really bad, go and see your doctor. There are also various treatments your doctor can prescribe for you, depending on how bad the acne is. For mild acne, creams and washes are usually sufficient (either the kind you could buy yourself from the chemist, or prescribed ones that contain antibiotics such as tetracyclines, or prescribed ones that contain retinoids). For moderate acne, the oral contraceptive pill can help, or alternatively tetracycline pills. For very severe acne, you might need a referral to a dermatologist, who can prescribe retinoid pills (these are very effective, but can have pretty bad side effects, which is why they're reserved for the worst cases). It's usually possible to find one thing or another that will control even very bad acne.

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby suffer-cait » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:37 pm UTC

harleyquinn: has your hair gotten longer? is it now touching your shoulder blades, or more of your back than before? that may be all it is, the extra oils from your hair getting into the pores on your back.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby eigengirl » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:36 pm UTC

suffer-cait wrote:harleyquinn: has your hair gotten longer? is it now touching your shoulder blades, or more of your back than before? that may be all it is, the extra oils from your hair getting into the pores on your back.


Actually I went to my doctor for a similar complaint and mentioned that I'd been trying my hair back more to avoid it, and she said it wouldn't have had any effect. I guess maybe the hair closer to the scalp is the more oily?

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby suffer-cait » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:21 am UTC

eigengirl wrote:
suffer-cait wrote:harleyquinn: has your hair gotten longer? is it now touching your shoulder blades, or more of your back than before? that may be all it is, the extra oils from your hair getting into the pores on your back.


Actually I went to my doctor for a similar complaint and mentioned that I'd been trying my hair back more to avoid it, and she said it wouldn't have had any effect. I guess maybe the hair closer to the scalp is the more oily?
yeah, because the oil comes from the scalp. but depending on your hair care system, other parts of your hair can get real oily too.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby crickets » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:50 am UTC

Good tips i've gotten about clearing up body acne:

Change your sheets frequently; if your skin is oily your sheets and pillowcases can get that way too. This is more true if you sleep nekkid or in pj's that don't cover your back

Cleanse your skin once a day, but don't over-cleanse, because it will dry out your skin and make it more irritated.

If you're just experiencing blocked pores and blackheads, try using an exfoliating deep-cleaning mask once a week; it'll draw the dirt out of your pores. Use a gentle toner (alcohol free) to help keep pores clean.

That's about all i know, really.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby Moo » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:03 am UTC

@Cheesewhiz: If you have irregular periods, going on the pill would be a very good idea. Long hormone explanation in spoiler but tldr version: seriously increased risk of several female cancers.
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Normal cycle goes like this: your body makes eostrogen, all the time, which causes the uturus wall to thicken to make room for potential bebbeh to live. When you ovulate, the egg gets released but if it doesn't get fertilized it degrades and releases a hormone (Follicle Something...?) which triggers the production of progesterone which in turn triggers the excess bloody tissue on uterus wall to be expelled and all this causes Eostrogen levels to drop too. We with PCOS don't form fully developed eggs so that trigger to detach the wall doesn't happen the way it should. Eostrogen levels keep creeping up and up and uterus tissue keeps thickening and thickening until it's so heavy it can't be supported and gets expelled that way. This is actually damaging to your uterus wall and is why you are in increased danger of things like uteran cancer. PLEASE NOTE I am not a doctor but this is my understanding of the process as explained by my gynae, a specialist in hormones and PCOS.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby crickets » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:50 am UTC

Moo wrote:@Cheesewhiz: If you have irregular periods, going on the pill would be a very good idea. Long hormone explanation in spoiler but tldr version: seriously increased risk of several female cancers.
Spoiler:
Normal cycle goes like this: your body makes eostrogen, all the time, which causes the uturus wall to thicken to make room for potential bebbeh to live. When you ovulate, the egg gets released but if it doesn't get fertilized it degrades and releases a hormone (Follicle Something...?) which triggers the production of progesterone which in turn triggers the excess bloody tissue on uterus wall to be expelled and all this causes Eostrogen levels to drop too. We with PCOS don't form fully developed eggs so that trigger to detach the wall doesn't happen the way it should. Eostrogen levels keep creeping up and up and uterus tissue keeps thickening and thickening until it's so heavy it can't be supported and gets expelled that way. This is actually damaging to your uterus wall and is why you are in increased danger of things like uteran cancer. PLEASE NOTE I am not a doctor but this is my understanding of the process as explained by my gynae, a specialist in hormones and PCOS.


Follicle stimulating hormone. and lutenizing hormone.

Here is a graph.

Spoiler:
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Where follicular phase is egg maturing and luteal phase is egg traveling through reproductive organs. Yeah.

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Please enjoy the graph. Graphs are nice. Or is it more of a chart? I think graphy more than charty.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby Moo » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:56 am UTC

For sad crickets: *hug*
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.ne

Postby Ashlah » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:26 am UTC

Could someone with a better understanding of women's cycles please try to explain to me what is going on here:

I've noticed in the last few months, my body has become more...reliant (?) on my birth control pill (which I've been taking for three years) to keep my cycle regular. What I mean is that, recently, when I'm even a few hours late on a pill, my body decides it's time to start bleeding. Yay. It doesn't start until the next day, by which point, I have taken the late pill, and the pill after that. Sometimes I only bleed a little bit that one day, other times I randomly bleed a few times after that in the next week or two. Never a full period, until the week of the placebo pills, during which I have a normal (although recently starting sooner than it used to) period.

So...what is going on here? Anyone know? If anyone has ideas why this has only started happening within the last few months, that would be awesome, but just a general explanation of why it happens at all (why the pill is seemingly so necessary to suppress the start of bleeding) would be neat.


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