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Postby Okita » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:26 am UTC

I've heard people use the term "Vagoo."

Edit: In an attempt to make it less clinical sounding/ offensive that is.
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Postby Castaway » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:29 am UTC

The best thing i ever heard anyone call a vagina (and it may have been on this forum, i can't remember) was "roast beef curtains"
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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:34 am UTC

... I'm not looking for slang or kiddie words, and neither of those refer to the whole thing either, vagoo is still vagina, and '[meat] curtains' are labia. Neither are everything.

Sorry if I offended, that's just not what I'm looking for.
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Postby Vaniver » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:35 am UTC

Insignificant Deification wrote:That said, I don't know of any non-vulgar terms to refer to the whole unit.
Genitals?
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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:55 am UTC

1) Genitals is nonspecific, could be male or female
2) Down there is a kiddie word (well, phrase)

I guess what I'm trying to say is I want a word that refers to the whole thing, that sounds respectable, and is specifically female.

Unfortunately, not only do I not know such a word, I don't know if one would even exist, seeing as how we often substitute vagina for the purpose.
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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:58 am UTC

One could refer to the entire mound by way of "mons venus"

Edit: Or was it venus mons? I always forget.
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Postby Castaway » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:59 am UTC

Why do you need to refer to the whole thing?
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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:05 am UTC

I wrote:I hate it when people call the female genitals a vagina, it's like all it is to them is the muscular passageway you put penis in and pull babies out of.


Thanks Belial, that at least gives me hope that there is one.
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Postby Castaway » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:07 am UTC

I meant the whole thing without getting specific?
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Postby lorenith » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:29 am UTC

How about vulva?

vul·va [vuhl-vuh]
–noun, plural -vae Anatomy.
the external female genitalia.

I guess that doesn't encompass the vagina part though...

Edit: "Mons Venus" is only the pubic cushion, it doesn't include the vulva or vagina.

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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:33 am UTC

My mistake. I thought it referred to the whole mound-ish area.

To be fair, there's no all-encompassing word for referring to the male genitalia, either. It's just the penis and testicles. Having to say vulva and vagina to achieve the same level of precision doesn't seem so bad.
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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:08 am UTC

Hmm, interesting. Perhaps we should get to work on invention...

I guess that's all for that discussion in this thread though.
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Postby Castaway » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:09 am UTC

What would you call it, if you could? I vote Area 51.
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Postby pollywog » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:25 am UTC

If you don't need specifically English, you could try teke (teh-keh) or tenetene. Always fun terms. If you want to be really inclusive, toru means anus as well. And sprocket, and cog.

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Postby Swordfish » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:34 am UTC

How about your basic "Female reproductive system." Long winded, uninspired, and a fairly clinical term, but it certainly encompasses everything.
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Postby Jauss » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:34 am UTC

Some of my friends say "cunt" for the whole shebang (hahaha), which I know is like, the worst curse word ever to some people. Which is kind of fucked up if you think about it. Like a lot of English/American English curse words. You get it? Fucked up? Because they have to do with sex!

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Postby mjec » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:53 am UTC

Swordfish wrote:How about your basic "Female reproductive system." Long winded, uninspired, and a fairly clinical term, but it certainly encompasses everything.


See, that encompasses things like ovaries too, and I'm not sure you want to include that.
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Postby Swordfish » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:59 am UTC

Perhaps I misunderstood then. I read whole unit as all of the involved organs. Did ID want a term for just the more... outward (for said lack of a better phrase) portions of the system?

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Postby Insignificant Deifaction » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:35 am UTC

Teke sounds good. Cunt does not.

Anywho, that'll have to do. But yes, I meant everything Swordfish.

Unfortunately, hardly anyone knows teke :<

Ah the trials and tribulations of accurate reference.

And, I have no idea what I would call it according to Castaway.
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Postby PhantomReality » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:40 am UTC

Belial wrote:To be fair, there's no all-encompassing word for referring to the male genitalia, either. It's just the penis and testicles.


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Postby evilbeanfiend » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:10 am UTC

Insignificant Deification wrote:Teke sounds good. Cunt does not.

Anywho, that'll have to do. But yes, I meant everything Swordfish.

Unfortunately, hardly anyone knows teke :<

Ah the trials and tribulations of accurate reference.

And, I have no idea what I would call it according to Castaway.


personally i think cunt sounds awesome.
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Postby Pebbles » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:27 am UTC

I have a friend who always says it and then apologises to me for saying it. Ive never said anything about him saying it. He just assumes it offends me. It doesnt. Maybe when I was younger it would have, but I dont see it as being any worse than dick or cock or any other term like that. None of them Id say in front of my mum on purpose but meh.
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Postby PS_Mouse » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:02 am UTC

Insignificant Deification wrote:That said, I don't know of any non-vulgar terms to refer to the whole unit.

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Postby Emmaskillz » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:03 pm UTC

Castaway wrote:... L'esprit d'escalier...

The spirit of stairs?? Maybe my French just sucks.

I don't get offended when someone says 'cunt'. It sounds a bit harsher but i suppose it's not something I hear often. I'd probably feel weird if someone refered to my vagina as a cunt.

I once had some high person telling me that his favourite curse was cunt and if someone called him a cunt he wouldn't be offended because he loves them and thinks they're beautiful etc. etc.

Also sorry I don't know the terms for what you're looking for ID.

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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:02 pm UTC

The spirit of stairs?? Maybe my French just sucks.


No, your french is right. You just don't know the idiom.

L'esprit d'escalier, the spirit of the stairwell, is a phrase that's meant to describe that phenomenon where you think of the *perfect* thing to say to someone.....while you're on the stairwell, after leaving their apartment, a good hour after you should've said it.
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Postby Sprocket » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:19 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Goth clubs are pretty much keep your dick to yourselves clubs.

Want to dance and be left the hell alone? Develop an appreciation for :wumpscut: and wear some damn velvet.
I wish Boston still had a GothClub...SO BAD!

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Insignificant Deification wrote:That said, I don't know of any non-vulgar terms to refer to the whole unit.

ladybits?


No, that just sounds silly.


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CatProximity wrote:Yeah, exactly, on a sidewalk. I see a pretty boy, and I want to just see what would happen if i acted. There are pleanty of reasons I haven't, but I think I'd be better off doing it now then doing it when I'm old and have no inhibitions.


If the pretty boy is very pale with blue eyes, dark hair, and a snarky comment on his shirt I urge you to do this. If he freaks out, you're not far enough North.


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All reasons why I would never do it. Still, it's so tempting, I suppose I'd be kind of proud of myself if I could get up that gumption.

Actually, my boyfriend assures me it would go over well. I beg to differ, but he insists.

if we all show up at the meet up in fancy clothes, would that be completely rediculous?
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Postby djn » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:31 pm UTC

CatProximity wrote:
Belial wrote:Goth clubs are pretty much keep your dick to yourselves clubs.

Want to dance and be left the hell alone? Develop an appreciation for :wumpscut: and wear some damn velvet.
I wish Boston still had a GothClub...SO BAD!


I kind of like the music and I could manage the velvet. But what I want is a club I where there's no dancing to be avoided. ;)
... I guess those are known as "pubs". Are there goth pubs? Bars?

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Postby kilgore trout » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:05 pm UTC

Want to dance and be left the hell alone? Develop an appreciation for :wumpscut: and wear some damn velvet.


Are you suggesting using velvet as a penis repellent?

When I first went to clubs it was with a bunch of girl friends of mine and we went with the intent of having a few drinks and dancing. We knew guys would be at the club, but we weren't interested in hooking up with them. We learned the hard way how handsy drunk/horny/stupid guys can be.

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Thanks to Grey's Anatomy the word I know use is va-jay-jay. It's an annoying habit I have developed I can't seem to break.

I don't mind saying "cunt" but it easily offends so many. It gets annoying to explain why cunt isn't a bad word at all.

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kilgore trout wrote:I don't mind saying "cunt" but it easily offends so many. It gets annoying to explain why cunt isn't a bad word at all.


I used to hate that word (strange for being a guy, but whatever). Then a bunch of my (male) friends decided to "take it back". Astoundingly it now has almost no curse effect on me because it's so overused. Which leads to the development of far worse words/phrases. SQEEMISH DON'T READ ON. Like cunt-splinter, an all-around horrible image.
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Postby Sprocket » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:15 pm UTC

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kilgore trout wrote:I don't mind saying "cunt" but it easily offends so many. It gets annoying to explain why cunt isn't a bad word at all.


I used to hate that word (strange for being a guy, but whatever). Then a bunch of my (male) friends decided to "take it back". Astoundingly it now has almost no curse effect on me because it's so overused. Which leads to the development of far worse words/phrases. SQEEMISH DON'T READ ON. Like cunt-splinter, an all-around horrible image.
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Postby Pixel » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:19 pm UTC

kilgore trout wrote:
Want to dance and be left the hell alone? Develop an appreciation for :wumpscut: and wear some damn velvet.


Are you suggesting using velvet as a penis repellent?

When I first went to clubs it was with a bunch of girl friends of mine and we went with the intent of having a few drinks and dancing. We knew guys would be at the club, but we weren't interested in hooking up with them. We learned the hard way how handsy drunk/horny/stupid guys can be.


I think they're suggesting going to a goth club. The attitude at goth clubs are usually miles different than other clubs. People are generally there to dance & socialize, not just to hit on everyone with the appropriate genitalia.

I have one or two female friends who'd only gone to goth clubs, and upon visiting regular clubs were shocked at the behaviour of the guys there.
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Postby 3.14159265... » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:27 pm UTC

rant

If you go to a club (not gothic and such), and expect not to be touched by guys. Then complain about why guys touched you. You are just looking for reasons to call guys stupid.

If you want to dance with a few of your friends, put on some music and dance.

If you want to enjoy the night life, go walk downtown, or visit a bar, go to a concert.

Clubs have a single intention, reaching you the sex of your choice.

If you like rejecting guys, and then complaining about them bieng handsy then go to clubs wanting to dance with your friends.

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Postby gmalivuk » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:27 pm UTC

Alisto wrote:But a lot of girls just want to fucking dance and have fun. That does not necessarily mean they want your penis rubbing all over them.


I think you contradicted yourself there. :-)

But on a serious note, the reason girls are more offended with random groping than guys usually are is the existence of rape.

Men are very rarely victims of it, and when they are it's usually perpetrated by other men. In any case, the general social conception is simply that rape doesn't happen to guys. So if a random girl grabs your ass on the street, you're probably not going to wonder even for a second whether or not she might have some buddies wating in a van or in the next alley to have a bit more "fun" with you. If you grab a random girl, on the other hand, this could very well be exactly the first thing that she thinks. (I know stranger rape is much less common than date/"friend" rape, but what you think of unbidden is more a result of popular (mis)conceptions than of actual statistics.)

In other words, keep your cocks (and hands) to yourself, asshole. Even if a girl goes to a club knowing there's some probability of gropage, it doesn't give you an excuse to be the prick doing it.
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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:31 pm UTC

If you go to a club (not gothic and such), and expect not to be touched by guys. Then complain about why guys touched you. You are just looking for reasons to call guys stupid.


Just because you and some others decided that clubs were a safe-ground for blame-free sexual assault, doesn't make it so.
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Postby 3.14159265... » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:33 pm UTC

But belial, I don't and my friends don't randomly go and grope/grab/rub.

We dance over, give 3 seconds to decide whether they want to dance, then put hands on hips give 3 seconds for that to settle, then rub away.

Thats not sexual assault, thats just procedure.

I can't hear myself talk in a club, so I shouldn't be expected to sweet talk a girl, just sweet dance her.
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Postby Sandry » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:34 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
Sandry wrote:Seriously, though, all we have now is floating goth nights, and generally they're not on good weekend nights. Though maybe I don't know the scene well enough to have heard of all of them.

Yeah, that's all we've got. I think goth night is tuesday


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Postby kilgore trout » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:35 pm UTC

I understood the suggestion of going to a goth club, I was just poking fun at wearing velvet. I'll edit my post to reinforce the sarcasm.

The clubs I chose were the clubs that were popular among the twenty something soroity/fraternity college crowd. I, being naive and stupid about clubs, thought that these kinds of clubs would be a good idea. Lesson learned. I've since learned there are many other pubs/bars/etc. where I would rather spend my time.

I used to hate that word (strange for being a guy, but whatever). Then a bunch of my (male) friends decided to "take it back". Astoundingly it now has almost no curse effect on me because it's so overused.


I used to hate the word as well, but I read the book "Cunt" (the book has been mentioned several times in this thread) and I changed my opinon. Although, cunt splitter is not a phrase I will be using anytime soon, but only because of the mental image I now have of a cunt splitting. OW!


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