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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - All Things Women. Period.

Postby ShortChelsea » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:12 am UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:-snip-
On the topic of Victoria's Secret ads actually made by Victoria's Secret, do the fit of the bras look kinda weird to anyone else? I don't know much about how other people's boobs work, but to my eye, in the pictures and t.v. ads they put out the bras always look this odd mix of too small, but improbably, rigidly supportive.

When I was younger, I wondered if I was wearing my bra incorrectly because of those ads. Now the commercials make me wonder if there's a naive eleven year old girl out there who is wearing an ill-fitting bra and it's all Victoria's Secret's fault.

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Postby Shro » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:14 pm UTC

They are usually wearing push up bras in the commercials. When they shoot photographs for strapless swim suits, the suit that is being shot actually has straps, and then they're photoshopped out in post production. This gives a lot of lift in the strapless styles you see in the catalog.

The photographs you see in magazines and and commercials nowadays are not pictures of people, it is an image. I just happened to watch a 10 minute long TED Talk by a model who talks about some interesting stuff: http://youtu.be/Re53vgaVFvI
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Postby LaSargenta » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:08 pm UTC

Oh. That prank is funny.

Well, now I'm a little cheered up. Otherwise, in my World of Women, the first thing I saw today was over at FlickFilosopher:
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Postby mochafairy » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:40 pm UTC

cephalopod9 wrote:On the topic of Victoria's Secret ads actually made by Victoria's Secret, do the fit of the bras look kinda weird to anyone else? I don't know much about how other people's boobs work, but to my eye, in the pictures and t.v. ads they put out the bras always look this odd mix of too small, but improbably, rigidly supportive.

My boobs don't work like that either!

Even if they carried my size in their stores, I wouldn't buy bras from them. I remember trying on their bras (when I was younger and actually had boobs that theoretically should have fit in their bras) once and I ended up trying on every size that I could in one bra because all of them felt wrong for my boobs, like my boobs were just the wrong shape. I tried adjusting straps, different band and cup sizes...nothing worked. I conclude that my boobs are too awesome for them. Only logical conclusion.
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Postby Sungura » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:29 pm UTC

I can't get any VS bras to fit right, never have even when I had boobsize that theoreitcally should fit. My best luck for bras is Lane Bryant. I like they have colors and designs and such so it's not boring bras, and they have in all sizes. While sometimes I don't like their "real women" campaign (as LB in particular tends to "big" sizes, so it's backwardsing the issue) I have noticed that the calcique section (which has ALL size bras) uses that slogan as does their other stores (which carry "small" and "regular" sizes too) so that made me feel a bit better. Every store I"ve been in of them (in MI and here in AL) their people do know how a bra should fit and they don't stay with the same cuts for all 10 or so of their styles they seem to realize it's a shape thing not just a size thing.
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Postby cephalopod9 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:15 pm UTC

ShortChelsea wrote:When I was younger, I wondered if I was wearing my bra incorrectly because of those ads. Now the commercials make me wonder if there's a naive eleven year old girl out there who is wearing an ill-fitting bra and it's all Victoria's Secret's fault.

False advertizing D:

We got weird ideas about boobs as a culture, can I just say.
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This is one of the more aggravating things. They got this image of "boobs! sexy boob store!" but if you have big boobs you can pretty much take your business elsewhere.
And dang if it doesn't seem like there are adorable, reasonably priced balcony bras everywhere, Only C cups and smaller.
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Postby ShortChelsea » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:22 pm UTC

^They have bras in my size, but for some reason I don't feel comfortable going into a "This is a lingerie-only store." In a regular clothing store I can go to the lingerie area and browse, but can't go into a VC.
On the subject of bras, where has everyone got their best/least expensive/most expensive bras?

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Postby LaSargenta » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:15 am UTC

Best foundation garment store ever: Brasmyth

They only have stores in New York City and at the Short Hills Mall in New Jersey, but they are specialists, have all sizes, know how to fit AND will do alterations in the store to accomodate the asymmetry that all people have. Yes, you can get a bra altered.

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Postby poxic » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:44 am UTC

My experience has also been that small, independent shops are better. Also more expensive. :|

When I still tolerated underwire, La Senza used to be decently priced and decent-fitting. I'm not sure that they haven't gone campy and crappy since then.

The bras I mostly wear these days are cheapo sports bras from Sears, since I'm a small cup size and prefer the girls to be unremarkable. (Wearing bras at all is a concession to being over 35. I used to wear them only under white shirts or for special occasions.)

Unfortunately for those with other preferences, finding good bras that won't squish the girls flat involves a lot of trial and error. It's like shopping for trousers: each shop tends to fit a particular body shape well and others not so well. Once you find a shop with reasonably-priced, good-fitting things, make a note of it and stock up.
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Postby mochafairy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:35 am UTC

I think it was this thread that linked me to Busty Girls FAQ, which has links to shops and blogs and stuff.

But a friend recently also introduced me to Bra Stop (for shopping) and Bratabase (for bra reviews).
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Postby existential_elevator » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:23 pm UTC

Confession: I've never been entirely sure what underwire means.

I assume it's the U-shaped bit at the bottom of the cup that has stiff stuff inside? The bit that sometimes breaks and jabs me. If that's the case I'm not terribly sure what a bra without underwiring actually is, other than a training bra.

When I was younger, I thought that underwiring meant there were lots of tiny bits of metal, like a net, in the entire cup. Scaffolding for the boobs. Not sure if this is terrifying or not.

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Postby LaSargenta » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:14 pm UTC

existential_elevator wrote:Confession: I've never been entirely sure what underwire means.

An underwire is just that, a wire under the breast tissue. Bras without underwires include sports bras, normal bras and, indeed, as you stated "training" bras (that train one for nothing and are a hoax to part stupid parents from their money).

If the underwire pocket wears sufficiently for you to see the wire, throw it away before it does break through. Injuries there are painful and can be dangerous as an underwire-induced injury could be a puncture wound.

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existential_elevator wrote:When I was younger, I thought that underwiring meant there were lots of tiny bits of metal, like a net, in the entire cup. Scaffolding for the boobs. Not sure if this is terrifying or not.

Yeah, I could see that, but the nylon (or cotton or whatever) is already a net. Remember, the load is carried at the intersections. A bra is a truss structure. And that's your civil engineering trivia fact for the day.

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Postby Sungura » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:38 am UTC

I used to hate underwires too but eventually my boobs were too big to be comfortable without that extra support. If they are always pokey and stuff, they aren't fitting right. They should be comfortable and supportive. I found out I was actually a much larger cup than what I was trying to wear!

They make bras without underwires too, and the other option is to cut out the underwire. There are also different kinds of underwires, some are "softer" and more bendy than others.
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Postby semicharmed » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:27 pm UTC

I treated myself to two fancy/expensive bras when I came back from Ukraine. I had been wearing 38Ds, and these are 36Ds and I'm still totally in love with how they make the girls look.

One is this, by LeJaby, and the other is a fire-engine red Simone Perele. Two really different bras, and on the expensive side, but both of them are incredibly comfortable.

I'd want a closet full of them, but that's way more than I want to spend on bras.

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Postby PerchloricAcid » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:01 pm UTC

I don't wear bras often, actually. I do have non-flat boobs, but they aren't big enought to really need a bra except if I'm running or something. My size is 75B.
There seems to be this norm that all females absolutely must wear bras because god forbid somebody sees the shape of their erect nipples through their shirts. I've stopped caring about that and I feel much better, and so do my boobs :P

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Postby bluebambue » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:32 pm UTC

I have 32G boobs and very persistent nipples. When they're hard (from coldness or just randomly), you can still see them through a bra, cami, and shirt. Growing up, I didn't realize that some people would consider that a problem. I am fortunate in that regard as there's not much a I can do besides wearing a lose fleece/sweater constantly.

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Postby UniqueScreenname » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:38 am UTC

I have gotten to the point that the first thing I do when I get home is take off my bra. I'm only a 36C, so they aren't huge, but my massage therapist friend says my ribs may be a bit out of alignment, so they've been a bit tight on my chest.
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Postby PAstrychef » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:01 pm UTC

Even at Lane Bryant, in the bras for BOOBs section there are padded cups so that there is no chance of a nipple being seen. I mean, I wear a 40DD, what hell do I need a padded bra for!
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Postby Cassi » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:46 pm UTC

I had my first major awkward mooncup moment in a public toilet today (after I think about 4 years of using it now)...
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By complete chance I ended up in a parent and child cubicle, which has 2 toilets and a sink in it. And I thought great, I can actually rinse my mooncup out properly! Empty it, then go to rinse it out...and the tap doesn't work. And I am dripping blood into the sink. So I accept that I will just have to wipe it with toilet paper, so that's fine, put it back in. Except then I have the problem of a sink with blood in it. I try to wipe it out, but that mostly just smears it around. Of course this was the one time I didn't have a bottle of water in my bag (the boy cleverly left it in the car). So I ended up using a liberal amount of spit and some more toilet roll to get the majority of it off...

Definitely made me think maybe it is just easier when there isn't a sink to even try to use, though!
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Postby RollingHead » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:39 pm UTC

I mostly wear nylon elastic sports bras, they're really cheap and don't really have a shape of their own but they look really nice under tight clothes. To be fair my boobs aren't very big and I don't know these bras would hold much more weight.

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Postby Apparently Anonymous » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:23 pm UTC

So I'm planning to go visit a very special friend in a few days, but before deciding to go I'd prefer to be sure I'm not having Shark Week coming up in those days. However, with my last period occuring within two weeks of the previous one (this was at the beginning of december), I'm not sure how much I can trust my body these days...is there any way I can find out when I'm likely to have Shark Week next based on that or other signs?

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Postby Sungura » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:01 pm UTC

For me, a few days before my cervix is lower and my nipples are painfully sensitive (odd, since before the Mirena I couldn't feel anything with them, but since, they get ubersensitivity). This in general holds true for me no matter how whacked the timing is. YMMV.
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Postby Apparently Anonymous » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm UTC

Decided to go anyway and just deal with whatever happens.

Really wish periods weren't such a taboo thing though.

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Postby LaSargenta » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:42 am UTC

Apparently Anonymous wrote:Decided to go anyway and just deal with whatever happens.

Really wish periods weren't such a taboo thing though.
One of my deal-breakers has ALWAYS (from my teen years) been if the sex partner is grossed out by blood. If menstrual blood is a problem, this is useful information to me. Btw, orgasms are great for period cramp relief.

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Postby UniqueScreenname » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:31 am UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:I have gotten to the point that the first thing I do when I get home is take off my bra. I'm only a 36C, so they aren't huge, but my massage therapist friend says my ribs may be a bit out of alignment, so they've been a bit tight on my chest.

Apparently I'm up a cup size. Should I be excited? I am not.
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Postby poxic » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:46 am UTC

Cup sizes can fluctuate with body weight, menstrual cycle, illness/health, and age. It's not normal to change size very suddenly, except during pregnancy, but gradual changes are totes normal. Whether they are welcome is purely a personal matter.

(For women who have never been pregnant, there's often a growth spurt that happens post-40ish. It's hitting me now. I'm not really thrilled.)
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Postby AngrySquirrel » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:23 am UTC

poxic wrote:(For women who have never been pregnant, there's often a growth spurt that happens post-40ish. It's hitting me now. I'm not really thrilled.)

Oh god no. Is there a way to avoid that? (Without getting pregnant, cause on my list of "Bad Reasons to get Pregnant" I'm thinking that one's quite near the top.)
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Postby suffer-cait » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:40 pm UTC

me and my As over here are like Yesssssssssssssss!

all i want for christmas is my two B cups......
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Postby poxic » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:38 pm UTC

I don't know if anyone has studied who did and did not get the post-40 boobie bump-up, and what might have contributed. Someone needs to science this!
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Postby AngrySquirrel » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:41 am UTC

poxic wrote:I don't know if anyone has studied who did and did not get the post-40 boobie bump-up, and what might have contributed. Someone needs to science this!

Science all the boobs!
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Postby existential_elevator » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:56 pm UTC

poxic wrote:(For women who have never been pregnant, there's often a growth spurt that happens post-40ish. It's hitting me now. I'm not really thrilled.)

Wait, really?

...There's so much nobody has ever told me about... well. Anything near or leading up to menopause. Or indeed menopause itself. I think my knowledge is limited to knowing the word and that vague feeling that it will be a relief when it happens but something about osteoporosis. Was it just that I got the bad end of the information stick?

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Postby LaSargenta » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:16 pm UTC

existential_elevator wrote:...There's so much nobody has ever told me about... well. Anything near or leading up to menopause. Or indeed menopause itself.


For all things with the female body, Our Bodies, Ourselves is a classic and every woman should have a copy.

You may find this http://www.susunweed.com/WiseWomanHerbals.htm#meno book useful. It is by an herbalist, has a definite 'hippie' perspective, but I found it informative and she includes lots of topics that ime tend to get minimised or left out of other sources. Some people I've mentioned it to have found it fantastic, but, be warned, some have found it annoying or frustrating. To each her own. [Truth in Advertising, I generally use herbs, diet, and physical therapy for dealing with my health issues and I have a 'conventional' medical doctor who is also fairly educated in them as well, so she supports it. Much of the lit for herbs is in a really different paradigm from my world of engineering; but, I don't let that stop me.]

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Postby PictureSarah » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:03 pm UTC

My mom is menopausing right now, and she has been complaining about horrible hot flashes for a few years. She hates going to the doctor and such, but she went on HRT recently because she was so desperate to make them stop. It seems that menopause sucks. She never had a growth spurt of boobs, though (obviously) she has had children.

Pregnancy-related boob growth is kind of astonishing. It is not gradual.
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Postby Cathy » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:53 am UTC

I have school starting ... today? Tomorrow? The 14th. It's kind of scary, but also good. Big breaks in routines lead to unhealthy routines for me - essentially, getting nothing done at all and sleeping a lot.

I'm taking a smaller class load this semester because last semester came back with some really terrible grades. Last semester was a 15 hour - this one will only be 10. Repeating one from last semester. This creates massive anxiety spikes for me - I hate not doing well. But I'll do better this time, and do my silly damned homework and learn this stuff through and through.

I finally got a therapist! I really like her. She clicks with my though process. I'm not really anxious about the class - I'm worried about failing and never amounting to anything and being worthless, etc. But she has me list real-life examples as rebuttals to these beliefs - I've had jobs, I have an internship waiting for me come summer, I have a husband, I have friends. I can do things. I am worth things. Coping strategies, guys! I haz them!

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Postby existential_squirrrel » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:34 am UTC

I'm here. Haven't been around much due to the general busy-ness that life brings from being a student

I'm a hormonal, emotional mess currently. All I want to do is eat ice cream and hide under the covers
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Postby Apparently Anonymous » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:05 pm UTC

LaSargenta wrote:
Apparently Anonymous wrote:Decided to go anyway and just deal with whatever happens.

Really wish periods weren't such a taboo thing though.
One of my deal-breakers has ALWAYS (from my teen years) been if the sex partner is grossed out by blood. If menstrual blood is a problem, this is useful information to me. Btw, orgasms are great for period cramp relief.


Oh, I forgot to update on this. I did get Shark Week while I was there - let's just say he passed the test (he wrote stuff on my back with it :lol: ).

In other news though, I think I've gone and fallen for him...which is probably not such a good thing :?

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Postby LaSargenta » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:08 pm UTC

Apparently Anonymous wrote:... - let's just say he passed the test...


Cool.

Apparently Anonymous wrote:In other news though, I think I've gone and fallen for him...which is probably not such a good thing :?


Doesn't have to be bad. Enjoy the endorphins. Sometimes it's hard to keep the brainstem in check, but I like to remind my forebrain about the idea of Attachment (Buddhist idea) being the problem more than enjoyment.

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Postby Apparently Anonymous » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:18 am UTC

LaSargenta wrote:
Apparently Anonymous wrote:... - let's just say he passed the test...


Cool.

Apparently Anonymous wrote:In other news though, I think I've gone and fallen for him...which is probably not such a good thing :?


Doesn't have to be bad. Enjoy the endorphins. Sometimes it's hard to keep the brainstem in check, but I like to remind my forebrain about the idea of Attachment (Buddhist idea) being the problem more than enjoyment.


Hmm, good point. So you think I can just seperate those?

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - All Things Women. Period.

Postby LaSargenta » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:58 pm UTC

You can try. Crushes are great, with practice I manage to carve out time to indulge in the crush and still keep the rest of my life mine. It's a balance. Not cool to treat the other like a piece of meat. I'm not saying to take it that far. But, compartmentalizing can work with frequent reminders to the self. Worth trying.

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - All Things Women. Period.

Postby existential_squirrrel » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:36 pm UTC

dear hormones...

please go fuck yourselves and leave me alone for a day or so.
you suck
I've been feeling like scum stuck to someone's nasty shoe sole for a week now...
fuck off

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