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How do you think the world is doing?

Postby FrancisDrake » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:55 pm UTC

I decided to make a thread where people can say one thing they like about the world, one thing that is wrong with the world, and solutions to said problem. Also, anyone is free to create solutions to any of the problems mentioned.

I like that their is always going to be something new to learn. However, I don't like how most main stream clothing is made from cheap stitching and cheap materials, not to mention the lurking feeling that they could have been made by children or cheaply paid workers. Also, I don't like how many skaters have sold out by starting brands that make people feel less of a skater if they don't buy their shoes or boards. All in all, I would have to sum this entire rant up into the clothing industries' methods of success; psychology, (Thanks Watson,) and cheap materials made by under paid workers.

I think if everyone demanded quality clothing made by well paid workers, and if the companies supplying the clothing focused their ads more on the specifications of their product and not on psychology, we could start making something cool happen.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Jorpho » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:15 am UTC

FrancisDrake wrote:and if the companies supplying the clothing focused their ads more on the specifications of their product and not on psychology
Sir, there is no reason why the companies would do something that would decrease their sales and make them less money, especially if their competitors decided not to do so.

And that, in a sense, is what is wrong with the world.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Proginoskes » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:43 am UTC

I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby thicknavyrain » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:34 am UTC

Proginoskes wrote:I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.


Say, aren't we overdue for a major asteroid collision?
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:58 pm UTC

thicknavyrain wrote:
Proginoskes wrote:I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.


Say, aren't we overdue for a major asteroid collision?

We're overdue for any number of events that would alter or destroy civilization.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby cjmcjmcjmcjm » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:40 pm UTC

I thought most of the major (moon-forming) objects have already collided or were tossed out of orbit. The Earth will keep spinning.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby You, sir, name? » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:06 pm UTC

thicknavyrain wrote:
Proginoskes wrote:I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.


Say, aren't we overdue for a major asteroid collision?


That's not how statistics work. You can't be overdue for a random event. If you could, they wouldn't be random.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:00 pm UTC

Psh, that's just what they want you to believe.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Garm » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:12 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:
thicknavyrain wrote:
Proginoskes wrote:I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.


Say, aren't we overdue for a major asteroid collision?


That's not how statistics work. You can't be overdue for a random event. If you could, they wouldn't be random.


Next you're going to tell me that there's no law of averages.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby FrancisDrake » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:00 am UTC

Jorpho wrote:
FrancisDrake wrote:and if the companies supplying the clothing focused their ads more on the specifications of their product and not on psychology
Sir, there is no reason why the companies would do something that would decrease their sales and make them less money, especially if their competitors decided not to do so.

And that, in a sense, is what is wrong with the world.


I know, but all we need is one company to kill the market with quality and truth.
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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Proginoskes » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:14 am UTC

Garm wrote:
You, sir, name? wrote:
thicknavyrain wrote:
Proginoskes wrote:I think the world is doing fine.

The people may be in trouble, though.


Say, aren't we overdue for a major asteroid collision?


That's not how statistics work. You can't be overdue for a random event. If you could, they wouldn't be random.


Next you're going to tell me that there's no law of averages.


Nope, there's no law; it's just a good idea.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby IcedT » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:08 am UTC

I think the problem can be summed up pretty simply: limited resources, unlimited wants.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Zamfir » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:15 am UTC

IcedT wrote:I think the problem can be summed up pretty simply: limited resources, unlimited wants.

Hmm, I think "unlimited wants" gets oversold. It's often posited as a universal, all-overriding human trait, while in practice most historic societies do a somewhat workable job at managing demands to achievable levels. For example by channeling status competitions away from conspicuous consumption, by envisioning history as a constant, by giving high and ritualized importance to crucial resources, by encouraging leisure as response to good times, by using gifts and sharing as major forms of trade.

We just happen to live in societies with a recent history of material expansion, and as a result we're not very good at moderating demands. We know that we acquire lots of stuff that isn't really improving our lives, we're just not very good at turning that knowledge into an actual lack of desire for that stuff. We also acquire stuff that is truly life-improving, so we have found it easier to make more of everything, instead trying to separate the wheat from the chaff in advance.

In particular, we have a deeply embedded expectation of material improvement from generation to generation. Parents want to their children to have more than they had, and that shapes their children's expectations of a normal life. But this is partially a Red Queen's race: you have to keep improving to stay at the same place. At every generation the people who own and consume more stuff have less stress, better health, higher reported life satisfaction, a more positive outlook on the world, more sense of control over their lives. But when everbody gets more stuff, the levels required for those good things tend to shift upwards as well.

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby Jorpho » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:30 pm UTC

FrancisDrake wrote:I know, but all we need is one company to kill the market with quality and truth.
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." —H. L. Mencken

Spoiler:
Bah, people can't seem to agree if the quote is "intelligence" or "taste".

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Re: How do you think the world is doing?

Postby cjmcjmcjmcjm » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:33 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:
FrancisDrake wrote:I know, but all we need is one company to kill the market with quality and truth.
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." —H. L. Mencken

Spoiler:
Bah, people can't seem to agree if the quote is "intelligence" or "taste".

…it works either way.
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