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Postby robinberghuys » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:07 am UTC

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Postby Pebbles » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:41 am UTC

Jesster wrote:His fame helped his environmental causes so much, I don't see why keeping his name alive is a bad thing at all.


the first time I saw him on tv he was poking a snake to get it to move its head so the camera could see it.. from that moment I took an instant dislike to him. And still do. Altho it is sad hes dead, but for what he was doing.. he was always risking it.

But I do think some of the stuff he did for environmental awareness was good work, and Australia Zoo is definitely a positive. However it doesnt make me like him any more than I did when he was poking the snake.
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Postby Rippy » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:08 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:His fame helped his environmental causes so much, I don't see why keeping his name alive is a bad thing at all.

Yeah, but I'm talking about airing a show called "My daddy the croc hunter", that's not the same thing.

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Postby Belial » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:26 pm UTC

the first time I saw him on tv he was poking a snake to get it to move its head so the camera could see it.. from that moment I took an instant dislike to him.


He got people up close to animals, let them have a real good look at them, and tried to get them as excited about those animals as he was. Considering that if the snake had been captured thus by *any other animal* it would have been eaten rather than poked, I can't be too upset on its behalf (and I think, once released, it couldn't care less.) Meanwhile, if he got any percentage of people to actually care about protecting that snake's species, I consider it a win.

I liked the croc hunter. I was incredibly sad when he died.
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Postby dubsola » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:52 pm UTC

At first, I felt the same way as Pebbles - I thought he was just a yahoo with an adrenaline addiction. When I saw him on Enough Rope (one of the greatest talk shows ever, by the way - Andrew Denton is genius), my mind was changed.

Enough Rope feat. Steve Irwin.

Read it, it's worth it. The man had passion, and a good heart.

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Postby MFHodge » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:17 pm UTC

Rippy wrote:I saw an Animal Planet preview for a show called (I believe) "My daddy the croc hunter" today, a kid's show with his kids and him.

Isn't it kind of cruel to air them now?

It may have different names / variations in different regions, but here's it's called "Bindi the Jungle Girl", starring his daughter Bindi. About half of the show has footage that features Steve. Don't know about more recent episodes, I just happened to see a couple with my neice and nephew.
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Postby Rippy » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:18 pm UTC

I dunno, the way I see it, he basically picked up animals and otherwise disturbed them and made a show out of it. Not that he didn't do other good things, and not that the show wasn't entertaining, but it was still basically a show about poking animals.

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Postby KicktheCAN » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:24 pm UTC

Actually, a lot of the animals on the show were injured and he had to touch them to help them. I also saw a few episodes where he was helping scientists conduct research by attaching trackers and stuff.
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Postby Belial » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:27 pm UTC

Rippy wrote:I dunno, the way I see it, he basically picked up animals and otherwise disturbed them and made a show out of it. Not that he didn't do other good things, and not that the show wasn't entertaining, but it was still basically a show about poking animals.


He did so without hurting them. Being "disturbed" happens to an animal on a near-daily basis, usually by things that want to *kill* them.

What he did *to the animals* was essentially neutral, or as Kick points out, often good.

But what he did *for you* was show you the animals up close and personal, and try to invest in you some of his own good-natured excitement about those animals, so that maybe you'd care about them even a slight fraction as much as he did. Which I consider a pretty good thing, regardless of how successful he was at it.
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Postby Cheese » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:58 pm UTC

And as pissed off as I got at him for the annoying voice (Australian accents are fine, but he gave me a migrane), and that irritating 'crikey' catchphrase, I still hate people to make shitty jokes about him, and complain if they do.
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Postby rachel » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:55 pm UTC

robinberghuys wrote:
xooll wrote:Artichokes are evil incarnate.


Pickles are cucumbers soaked in evil.



"Pickles are like cucumbers who sold their soul to the devil. And the devil was Dill."
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Postby Bakemaster » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:16 pm UTC

I have the sneaking suspicion that a good number of people who don't like Steve Irwin developed their opinion on the basis of that South Park episode. "I'm gonna stick my finger up its butthole! That'll really piss it off!"
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Postby tmad40blue » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:34 pm UTC

I've honestly never seen an episode of South Park in my life.
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Postby Narsil » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:34 pm UTC

Funny, I have the sneaking suspicion that most people will readily snag an opinion from South Park, for it is a fair and even handed purveyor of truth.
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Postby thedufer » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:37 am UTC

Narsil wrote:Funny, I have the sneaking suspicion that most people will readily snag an opinion from South Park, for it is a fair and even handed purveyor of truth.


Well duh. Between South Park and The Simpsons, one can easily form good, factually-grounded opinions on absolutely anything.

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Postby Khonsu » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:11 am UTC

Alisto wrote:She looked me in the eye and said, completely serious, "I was hoping for a little more."

*edit* Oops, thought this was the girls' thread. Oh well.


Please tell me she's not radiantly wonderful enough for you to let that slide. That is...ignorant. The penis is not the be-all, end-all of sexual pleasure, or else girl-lovin' girls (bi, gay, whatever) wouldn't exist, and there wouldn't be non-insertable vibrators that get rave reviews on every sex-positive sex toy site, like, ever. Trust me--anyone who behaves like penis size is a deal breaker? Doesn't know how to get him/herself off or is dumb.

I've been with a guy with a four inch cock who gave amazing cunnilingus and was fun to reciprocate with the one time we were intimate (bad timing, not his fault), and I've been with a guy with an eight-and-a-half inch cock that treated me like shit for two years and left a lot of emotional scars I'm still feeling almost three years later. It was all in their attitude and willingness to treat me like a human being.

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Postby Alisto » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:13 am UTC

Khonsu wrote:
Alisto wrote:She looked me in the eye and said, completely serious, "I was hoping for a little more."

*edit* Oops, thought this was the girls' thread. Oh well.


Please tell me she's not radiantly wonderful enough for you to let that slide.


She was hot, and I was lonely. I did eventually get rid of her because she's a selfish cunt, though.
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Postby Mathmagic » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:04 am UTC

rachel wrote:"Pickles are like cucumbers who sold their soul to the devil. And the devil was Dill."

Is there EVER a scenario where he can't be quoted?

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Postby Khonsu » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:13 am UTC

Alisto wrote:She was hot, and I was lonely. I did eventually get rid of her because she's a selfish cunt, though.


At least you're aware. Some jerks I know still have the poor form to act surprised and then go on misogynist rants--like it's my fault! :/

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Postby rachel » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:11 pm UTC

mathmagic wrote:
rachel wrote:"Pickles are like cucumbers who sold their soul to the devil. And the devil was Dill."

Is there EVER a scenario where he can't be quoted?

Win.


Yes! Oh man. Let's be best friends. Or ... you know. Something.



Also, guys, penis size is not what's most important, but it is at least sort of important. It just depends on the lady. For instance, I don't like oral sex and very rarely hand/genital stimulation (which is not weird at all, or so I hear), so penis size is kind of important to me because that is where I derive my pleasure from. At the same time, I'm not going to tell a guy to get lost just because he's not above average in that department. But if you are going around your entire life believing that size does not matter, then you're lying to yourself to an extent. No, it isn't most important and yes, it is definitely how well you're able to use what you've got, but if you've got very little to work with then you better know some damn good tricks, mister.
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Postby Sprocket » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:36 pm UTC

You're not manly without a TREBUCHET!

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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:37 pm UTC

I'll agree to that.
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Postby Mathmagic » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:48 pm UTC

rachel wrote:
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rachel wrote:"Pickles are like cucumbers who sold their soul to the devil. And the devil was Dill."

Is there EVER a scenario where he can't be quoted?

Win.


Yes! Oh man. Let's be best friends. Or ... you know. Something.

I'm up for BFF. Or... something.

Anywho, I was wondering what experiences people have had with being vertically challenged with respect to the dating scene.
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Postby Jesse » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:51 pm UTC

Rachel wrote:Penis stuff


I think a lot of the problem is people being unsure what average size is. In a survey I half remember reading about last year the majority of men listed average as 5-6 inches, while the majority listed 3-4 inches as the average.

I've never seen the big deal in worrying about it myself. There are many other ways to be incompatible in sex as well, and chances are you will find one or two people who do just not work out sex-wise. But this isn't neccessarily a fault of either of you. I meet loads of people everyday who are incompatible emotionally, yet do not see this as a big deal, why should I be so bothered about sexual incompatibility?

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Postby Alisto » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:08 pm UTC

rachel wrote:...but if you've got very little to work with then you better know some damn good tricks, mister.


Not a problem.

rachel, earlier wrote:...I don't like oral sex and very rarely hand/genital stimulation...


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Postby Shadow Tyrant » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:44 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:I think a lot of the problem is people being unsure what average size is.


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Postby PictureSarah » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:14 pm UTC

rachel wrote:Also, guys, penis size is not what's most important, but it is at least sort of important. It just depends on the lady. For instance, I don't like oral sex and very rarely hand/genital stimulation (which is not weird at all, or so I hear), so penis size is kind of important to me because that is where I derive my pleasure from. At the same time, I'm not going to tell a guy to get lost just because he's not above average in that department. But if you are going around your entire life believing that size does not matter, then you're lying to yourself to an extent. No, it isn't most important and yes, it is definitely how well you're able to use what you've got, but if you've got very little to work with then you better know some damn good tricks, mister.


I wouldn't necessarily call your preferences "weird," but there are a lot of women (self included) who really like a lot of hand and tongue action in addition to penis action included in their sex. I've personally NEVER had a problem with a partner being too small, but I have had problems with partners being too big. I think I would rather have a partner with a slightly smaller penis who was good with his hands and mouth than a partner with a large penis who wasn't.
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Postby rachel » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:30 pm UTC

I think I've addressed the oral sex issue in the lady thread once, I just find it invasive and gross. Hand action is not so bad, it can even be pleasant, but usually it is not that great. It just depends on the guy, I suppose. I guess it doesn't really matter what I like or dislike, considering that sex never makes me orgasm anyway so it's pretty irrelivant. It is more just a comfort thing. Also, it feels nice. Just I guess not enough stimulation in the correct ways to get me off. And it's not for lack of trying, believe you me, it just hasn't seemed to click yet. So I am one of those ladies for which size is a (sort of) issue because that's where I get most if not all of my pleasure. This is a sad story the more I think about it.
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Postby dubsola » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:06 am UTC

mathmagic wrote:Anywho, I was wondering what experiences people have had with being vertically challenged with respect to the dating scene.

I'm assuming you mean in total height from head to toe, and this isn't a clever way of talking about penis size.

Good friend of mine makes music and was booked for gigs in Slovenia and Croatia. A pretty girl from one of these countries decided she liked the look of him from his myspace, and went to the gig with the intention of saying hello. She messaged him beforehand, telling him to expect her to say hello, but unfortunately for him, she deemed him 'too short' and no contact was made.

For the record, he is not incredibly shorter than I am. I'm 6'2'', I guess he'd be around 5'10'', but we did notice that the majority of girls we saw at the gigs were quite tall.

Generalisation: most girls like her guy to be taller. Anyone?

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Postby TheKhakinator » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:09 am UTC

I don't know how all this works... It would seem to me that while being super-attractive helps for initally meeting people, beyond that it can be superfluous.

Penis size being a totally different thing entirely.

I didn't have anything against Steve Irwin... but I did occasionally wonder as to the title "Croc Hunter" - he never actually hunted any crocodiles.

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Postby dubsola » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:15 am UTC

Having a big penis gives you confidence, which helps in your appearance and demeanor.

That's why I'm so confident.

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Postby Sprocket » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:09 pm UTC

me: ok, brace yourself
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cheddar
sundried tomato
spinach and artichoke dip
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Postby Bakemaster » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:12 pm UTC

Too many cheeses! How will you appreciate the various flavors when they combine? If it were cheese and crackers you could eat them separately. Also, what kind of cheddar? You had better save me some. >: (
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Postby Sprocket » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:20 pm UTC

wow...so is that a yes or a no? ALso do you think I need onion (clearly garlic) any spice recomendation? any ANYTHING? I'm serving it with sliced up baguette.

I HATE how spinach dip is always served with friggin' tortilla chips.
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Postby Wilibus » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:26 pm UTC

Sourdough or don't bother is my opinion with spinach dip.

If was making that recipe I would add a little garlic, though I always found onion to be too sharp of a taste for spinach dip.
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Postby Bakemaster » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:28 pm UTC

That's a qualified yes: I do think you have too many cheeses, unless you're using mild cheddar purely for texture/flavor mitigation. Even then, gouda and feta are pretty distinct, and I don't know how they'd combine. You should test it out before making a full batch, methinks.

Like I said earlier, I have never *made* dip before. I'm a big fan of onion, so I'd probably try making it with, first. Important to use Vidalia onion(s) rather than red or yellow, though, to avoid overpowering. Spices... some coriander would be nice, I think. If you're using feta you probably won't need to add any salt. Thumbs up on the bread.
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Postby Cheese » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:55 pm UTC

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Fiiiiiiiinally, someone else who hasn't.

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Postby Sprocket » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:55 pm UTC

Wilibus wrote:Sourdough or don't bother is my opinion with spinach dip.

If was making that recipe I would add a little garlic, though I always found onion to be too sharp of a taste for spinach dip.


Of OFCOURSE there'll be garlic. I didn't put the BASICS like MILK and BUTTER in that list!
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Postby Flying Betty » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:27 am UTC

Sounds pretty amazing. I always served spinach dip in a big round crusty bread. Rip open the top and tear out the middle and spoon the dip inside, and then you arrange the ripped off bits of bread around the outside for your dipping pleasure.

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Postby Bakemaster » Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:17 am UTC

Bake's take: it was pretty tasty, although by the time I arrived the feta (which had been sprinkled on top, I was told) was gone, and as Cat herself admitted, the spinach was not chopped quite small enough. Very nice gouda flavor. Didn't notice any onions so I assume they were left out. I'd like to try the next attempt, and hopefully with onion cause I lurves it. Unfortunately for Cat I brought malted milk balls and when I have a choice between anything spinach-y and malted milk balls, it's no contest.
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