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My random dream typing..

Postby Earlz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:40 am UTC

Yea, 4:37am, so I decided to try dream typing! and really it worked somewhat..

basically whenever I say "dunno" that means I just now was dream typing(and wokeup)

I'll come back in the umm...afternoon and try to corect this and such more..
Ok, this is my attempt at dream typing....

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ok so i am trying it again so here it is and i am trying to dream and such but i really want to or something so um yea i reakky dibt w wamt to or something dunno what i ju aaid ans on top of that i there is some bug down here so now will try to type slower so yea was that mother because that what went through my mind, monthermonday was what went through my mind, ok, now to slowww downnn ea like this kinda but more weird and umm yea dunno what i just said or riht there either but it is very late, but i had to to do this experiment so i am trying at it but time gies reallu slowso it is a bit confusing. but i wish i had a spare keunoartf or something i really do not remember dunno what that is s i guess i could dunno what i am saying dunno is like the search ending thing i can't believe this dream tyoing stuff or something ok i why cant permissions or something like that my hands keep on stopping moving when i start to dream and it is annouing snf sll og th that so ummmm yrs this is res ehos judy grll hstfvotr sdlrrp ot domrthing like stopped typing and all... i think i might actually be too tired for this but i will keep trying due to boredom and those type thingds so ummm yea i am still quite hungry though and i am sleepy too so what woul di gain from it dunno what that was i am guessing a dream but who knows really and since i am trying this it really is quite fun and it is sweet but dunno what i just tyoed di i dont think it matters but i guess they can judge if they want dunno i am very tired so many dream things but whatever i wonder if that stupod pad is full yet you see my monitor is off this made me suer tired so ummm yea,,



pl 3rd atte,[t pr sp,etjomg ot os rea;;u weord wjem ypi read ot a and ok i am going to type random dream stuff now so yea it owns inthe fac and such so yea so many typos ans such it is going to be so hard to read and everything but i really wish that i could stau in a dream typing but i think it is impossible to do so so ,ucj for that idea and all of that yea so wonder when i will start dreaming and such ir what was that i just tyoed who lmpws so ummm yea i guess i am a good dream typer sor something because i don't delete anything and all that kinda crap and of course i am self taught so yea now what to do i guess i can just dream dunno what i said there but any way i guess we can all jhabe something dunno anyway though i just found an earier way fir tghus g j key or whatever so yea take that and now lets go slowwww slowww and a, i asleep yet or what ir is this what dunnno what i just tyoed so ummm yea ol slow ness once more and then i should get in bed or something like that but anyway i guess i really am about done dunno what i just typed but anyway this is the last time because of how sleepu i am and all it i am so sleepu but cant stay in a fream so who knows if i am sleepu dunno what i just typed ok once more it gives me adrenaline or something, who knows,,, hope i dont forget this in the orning tough so one more time and i wonder what this will be becaise i will suffix it if i fall asleep so umm yea ok now i want to dream some i am waiting for it and all of that good stuff so give me a dream or something please from somewhere so ummm yea i am still very hungry so i want some food really bsfluy dunno...


edit: the really weird thing is that I am almost addicted to it now...I mean, there is a reason I did it 3 times...(each paragraph is a "session") it's weird, I really want to laydown and do it again, but 4:45, so...
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Postby screech » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:44 am UTC

Wait, what's dream typing exactly?
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Postby TheKhakinator » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:46 am UTC

So wait, you mean you actually typed actual real words while asleep? Interesting. I'll have to give this a go.

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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:37 pm UTC

Looks similar to automatic writing. You just empty your mind, and let your subconscious move your pen. Sometimes you'd be surprised at what you come up with once you read it. The trick is not to read it while your writing (or in this case typing) until after you have finished writing. You might write or type some things that are disturbing; other times you might write or type something cool.
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Postby Earlz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:46 pm UTC

Well, I only truly dream typed in short bursts. The longest one being only 4 or 5 words...the weirdest part is that it seems to make grammatical sense in most parts where I dream typed...

it really was weird though and I wish to try it again next weekend..
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Postby Pau! » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:06 pm UTC

That, sir, is really cool. I might have to try that myself.
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Postby Earlz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:59 pm UTC

A compilation of the main parts where I was dream typing(that I remember)
(with spelling corrections and words added in brackets)
The last 5 or 6 words will be the dream typing, I put in the first part to give some context. To help, I put curly braces around what I rememebr beign the dream stuff

  • now so maybe i should just extremely slow down [my typing] {which i think i kinda have}
  • here goes [a] rather slow attempt to make something dream like and{ it [is] so far is doing nothing for me}
  • i dunno what i just typed but i will wait a few more seconds before the {one people [come to get me]} (That in brackets was what was going through my mind, but I didn't type because I wokeup)[/
  • so here is my attempt at it and i think it is beginning {to eitjeotk (eject?)ftuh(the?) sticks}[
  • but i really want to or something so um yea{ i really dont want to or}
  • now to slowww downnn ea(?) {like this kinda but more weird}
  • do not remember dunno what that {is s i guess i could}
  • dream typing stuff or something ok {i why cant permissions} (Here, I had a dream that my step mom cooked food in her car, and I was thinking, that she doesn't have the permissions(unix permissions) to do that lol)
  • i am sleepy too {so what would i gain from it dunno what}
  • i dont think it matters {but i guess they can judge if they want}
  • so yea now what to do {i guess i can just dream}
  • i guess {we can all have something}

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anyone know what the crap is wrong with these lists!?
edit2:
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Postby EvanED » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:42 pm UTC

I did something like that once, though not to the extent you did, and by accident. I was working on a report at about 4 or 5am, and was doing that head drooping thing. At one point I went into microsleep for a long enough to type about a sentence.

I thought I put it in my LiveJournal, but either I didn't, or I'm misremembering what class the report was for because it's not in the month or so of when it would have been were I right.

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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:56 pm UTC

Sounds like the stuff I type when I'm having a seizure, but my stuff is typically only 3-4 lines.

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Postby peter » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:49 pm UTC

Um.. Do you just keep your hands on the keyboard, as you fall asleep? If not, I'm a little confused.

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Postby Materiality » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:58 pm UTC

I've done something like that a few times, but with a pencil and paper. In the end, the paper contained random words and half-sentences in random languages, most of which I knew.

I actually just write the short phrases or words I hear (every time) in my head when I'm about to fall asleep. They usually make no sense in the morning.

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Postby Rodan » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:37 pm UTC

The pencil and paper I might try tonight...

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Postby bbctol » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:10 am UTC

I dream in French. No, seriously. I tried this once, and nearly all of the comprehensible parts were in French, with occasional made-up English cognates. It's pretty cool, actually. Like that Dilbert strip.

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Postby LSK » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:04 am UTC

I'd seriously try the pencil-and=paper method if my chair wasn't on wheels. I worry that I'd fall back or scoot to a place other than my desk.

But does it work?

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Postby Rodan » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:32 am UTC

Chair? This isn't done in bed?

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Postby Earlz » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:10 am UTC

it's best for in bed, but I assume a few people could do it in chair...

I'm going to conduct an experiment in the morning of waking up at about 6 or 7am wake my self up for about 10 minutes, and then try dream typing...I always have more dreams if I wake up in the morning and fall back asleep, so, I'll try that...it'd be amazing if I could get actual REM dream typing...but I think that is impossible without learning to do good lucid dreaming, and learning morse-code...(your body is almost completely paralized in REM sleep, and basically all you can do is move your eyes, change your breathing, and make small hand pulses...and possibly pee your pants lol)
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Postby Rasputin » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:34 am UTC

Earlz wrote:I always have more dreams if I wake up in the morning and fall back asleep, so, I'll try that.

I do the same thing. Anyone know why/how this happens?

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Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:43 am UTC

this is almost like stream of consciousness typing, which i do journaling sometimes. i haven't done it in a while, but it's very relaxing for me and easy since i have a wireless keyboard and can type from bed.

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Postby EvanED » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:50 am UTC

Rasputin wrote:
Earlz wrote:I always have more dreams if I wake up in the morning and fall back asleep, so, I'll try that.

I do the same thing. Anyone know why/how this happens?


There are two possibilities that I would guess:

1. Because you're likely sleeping lighter during your second time, you're more likely to be in REM sleep

2. In fact you're NOT having more dreams, you're just REMEMBERING them more. Again, this would likely be because you're sleeping lighter.

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Postby Robin S » Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:55 am UTC

Fact: dream typing, in its literal form, is impossible, unless perhaps you have REM Behavior Disorder (and even then I would consider it extremely unlikely that you could produce anything meaningful, because any keyboard featuring in your dreams is unlikely to be accurate and, besides, your fingers would wander from the correct keys). What you typed was under the influence of extreme tiredness, but not actual sleep.

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Postby schumi_girl » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:02 am UTC

Hm...so, I'm confused. Is it just like a random stream of consciousness? Or is it something different? How do you actually 'do' it?


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Postby TheKhakinator » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:11 am UTC

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I DON'T BELIEVE YOU! DON'T LIE! WHY DO YOU LIE!

If I get a wireless keyboard, I want to try this.

On a more serious note, I don't think it's necessary to see the keyboard in your dreams, because ANYONE that can truly touchtype doesn't need to see the keyboard. So I think it could be possible.

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Postby Robin S » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:49 am UTC

Right. Assuming that you're one of the 0.5% or so of people who suffer from REM Behaviour Disorder, and therefore don't lose control of your muscles when you're dreaming, there is still the issue that (short of supergluing your fingertips to the keys) your fingers will move off the keys before you get a chance to start typing. Also, your fingers will move even when you are not intentionally typing, so even with superglued fingers you will press keys meaninglessly. And finally, certain things which do work in real life don't work in sleep. "Conversations" that you have while you're asleep don't really make sense; similarly, the keyboard layout won't be right (and trying to touchtype on a keyboard which has keys, but not the right number or shape or configuration, is difficult enough while you've got the full concentration of waking consciousness, let alone when you're asleep).

Seriously, tell a sleep specialist that you're planning to type messages on a real keyboard while you're asleep and he will laugh at you.

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Postby TheKhakinator » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:29 am UTC

Yeah, well I never liked those uppity sleep specialists anyway.

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Postby Robin S » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:42 am UTC

You make a fair point there.

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Postby PythonNewb » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:14 pm UTC

PatrickRsGhost wrote:Looks similar to automatic writing. You just empty your mind, and let your subconscious move your pen. Sometimes you'd be surprised at what you come up with once you read it. The trick is not to read it while your writing (or in this case typing) until after you have finished writing. You might write or type some things that are disturbing; other times you might write or type something cool.


I've done a lot of automatic writing. Some of it is how I would finish papers* and things, or my perfectionism would get in the way.

But this dream typing sounds like something I'd really like to try. In fact, I remember wanting to, but I must've forgot about it.

EDIT: *Admittedly, this wasn't purely automatic, although it would explain all the tangents I'd go off on...

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Postby Rasputin » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:17 pm UTC

Robin S wrote:Fact: dream typing, in its literal form, is impossible, unless perhaps you have REM Behavior Disorder (and even then I would consider it extremely unlikely that you could produce anything meaningful, because any keyboard featuring in your dreams is unlikely to be accurate and, besides, your fingers would wander from the correct keys). What you typed was under the influence of extreme tiredness, but not actual sleep.

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Postby Earlz » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:43 pm UTC

I'm not goign to go off of a wikipedia article that is missing citations and references! therefor, your conversation is void...

ok...(using the slight knowledge I have on dreaming from writing an essay over it)
People can have non-REM dreams. They are usually to blame for the dreams you have while falling asleep that you may jump in(or twitch or the like..), and know you were having a dream, but can't remember it... iirc, this is also the form of dream where sleep walking can occur also..

that is really what dream typing is typing from, and why it IS possible to type from a dream without a disorder. That is also why when you start dream typing, you will remember typing something extremely stange down, but can't remember why(and why you jump a little also when realizing you may have fallen asleep)
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Postby Toeofdoom » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:49 pm UTC

Well, I just tried typing stuff without looking at the screen or keyboard and got:

iwodnerwhatumgiubgti tpe here oribablt reakky badkt soekked eh> hehehhe,,,, u cant see the screen and teres no punctuation., o eept the fill stop.... wjay was tnjay beep wkierd... a d ammtpomg wju aremt O ;ostemomg tp amnu ,isoc ,am,. ,ise os cpp;. amd tjpse f;pwers are a moce ue;;pw. bit tjeu[r b;irru. da,m o meed mew fg;asses////


The bit at the end was something about blurry yellow flowers and needing new glasses. I also managed to get the print window open by accident. I'll try again now, but with better alignment to the keyboard.

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Postby TheKhakinator » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:07 am UTC

I can type really well with my eyes closed and my hands on the keyboard. I typed this entire post like that.

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Postby Mathmagic » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:13 am UTC

Earlz wrote:People can have non-REM dreams. They are usually to blame for the dreams you have while falling asleep that you may jump in(or twitch or the like..), and know you were having a dream, but can't remember it... iirc, this is also the form of dream where sleep walking can occur also..

That *always* happens to me.

Whenever I doze off in class, I always twitch/jump in my desk, and then I have to try to pass it off like I was reaching down for something, or that I was adjusting my seat or whatever.

One time I was falling asleep in my bed, and I dreamed (read: non-REM dreamed apparently) that I was trapped in some strange room, and I started getting really claustrophobic in my dream. Eventually, my dream self decided it would be a good idea to bust open the window that was in this strange, dark room, and try to escape. That dream window turned out to be my real-life wall next to my bed. Anyway, I ended up putting two elbow-sized holes in my wall.

Yeah... I'm notorious for sleep walking/talking/jumping.
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Postby scrt_rbt_agnt » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:13 am UTC

Earlz wrote:People can have non-REM dreams. They are usually to blame for the dreams you have while falling asleep that you may jump in(or twitch or the like..), and know you were having a dream, but can't remember it... iirc, this is also the form of dream where sleep walking can occur also..


in psych class in college, we learned that sleepwalking happens in the deepest form of sleep, not in the early stages.


edit: when you are dozing off, that is totally REM dreaming. REM is the lightest form of sleep and happens most often while dozing or waking up. look it up folks.
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Postby PandaFluff » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:23 am UTC

In my American History class in high school, I was falling asleep while taking notes, and wrote "slapery" instead of "slavery," which I find funny because p and v seem nothing alike in both form and sound... so that kinda gives you an indication of how strange your mind can get while you're falling asleep.

I think this is a cool idea, and I might try it tonight while I fall asleep - though with a pen and paper.

Also, I think conversations that one has while sleeping are even more of an indication of why this may produce results. If people can move their lips in sleep, why couldn't they type? My friend used to actually give logical responses to questions while she was sound asleep, so to see if she was awake, we had to ask her a bizarre or illogical question. My favorite was "did you park the motorcycle on the roof?" If she gave a logical answer, we would know she was sleeping. If she was like "What the hell are you talking about?" we would know she was awake.
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Postby Dibley » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:35 am UTC

Slightly off topic, but does anyone accidentally type their thoughts? When I'm wreiting at my computer and get bored or distracted (usually during an essay), and start daydreaming, I will often get back to work, only to discover that I have typed out a sexual fantasy. Very nearly died of embarrasment once when the subject of the fantasy came and snapped me out of it, but thankfully she didn't notice what I had on the screen.

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Postby TheKhakinator » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:39 am UTC

mathmagic wrote:That *always* happens to me.

Whenever I doze off in class, I always twitch/jump in my desk, and then I have to try to pass it off like I was reaching down for something, or that I was adjusting my seat or whatever.

Weird... I twitch and jump a lot... maybe I'm semi-asleep all the time. Because like if something moves in my peripheral vision, or when the bell goes off, I jump or twitch. I must always be semi-asleep and then suddenly waking up.

Yes, I'm aware that these ideas are ridiculous.

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Postby Arancaytar » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:14 pm UTC

I've been told, on occasion, that I talk in my sleep. So I planned to make an audio recording.

Unfortunately, what I ended up with were 8 hours of silence and light snoring, and no time to sift through it. My audio editor (Audacity) wasn't able to find any particular spikes - I'd probably mutter not much louder than the snoring anyway.
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Postby Devilsaur » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:38 pm UTC

Arancaytar wrote:I've been told, on occasion, that I talk in my sleep. So I planned to make an audio recording.

Unfortunately, what I ended up with were 8 hours of silence and light snoring, and no time to sift through it. My audio editor (Audacity) wasn't able to find any particular spikes - I'd probably mutter not much louder than the snoring anyway.
I talk in my sleep (or used to). For me, it isn't too great since I do it when I get really involved in a dream. And this usually means strong emotion, so it's probably me saying or yelling something in anger, frustration, and other emotions that people were probably too embarassed to tell me :oops:.

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mathmagic wrote:That *always* happens to me.

Whenever I doze off in class, I always twitch/jump in my desk, and then I have to try to pass it off like I was reaching down for something, or that I was adjusting my seat or whatever.

Weird... I twitch and jump a lot... maybe I'm semi-asleep all the time. Because like if something moves in my peripheral vision, or when the bell goes off, I jump or twitch. I must always be semi-asleep and then suddenly waking up.

Yes, I'm aware that these ideas are ridiculous.
I twitch randomly sometimes too. Usually when I'm sleepy and have just been sitting for a while. It's -weird-.

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Postby Robin S » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:58 am UTC

Earlz wrote:I'm not goign to go off of a wikipedia article that is missing citations and references! therefor, your conversation is void...
Did you just say "You can't prove what you're saying without resorting to what other people say, therefore I'm right"? Because in that case, the whole of science pretty much falls apart. Try asking someone who actually knows about these things (because it's their job) whether it's possible to dream-type in a meaningful way. As in, during an actual dream (as opposed to a daydream, which despite the etymology is not the same as a dream).

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Postby Arancaytar » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:28 pm UTC

TheKhakinator wrote:I can type really well with my eyes closed and my hands on the keyboard. I typed this entire post like that.


Yep, same here. I don't actually type with ten fingers, but I can still type blind...
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