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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Magnanimous » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:07 am UTC

Koa wrote:Torment Tides of Numenera quietly released.
I backed the Kickstarter, and I'll be playing it once I get some free time.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby poxic » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:09 am UTC

I just went to check it out on Steam, then remembered that I've barely touched Witcher 3 because committing to an hour or more of playing at a time is haaaaard.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:52 am UTC

Magnanimous wrote:
Koa wrote:Torment Tides of Numenera quietly released.
I backed the Kickstarter, and I'll be playing it once I get some free time.


Similar position here - launching around the same time as Breath of the Wild is not a good way to get lots of play-time...

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Zohar » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:00 pm UTC

Felstaff wrote:Completed Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.

Hah! I just finished it on Sunday! I got about halfway through ACII and then magically lost my save, so I decided to just skip to the next volume. I've already played the games before so it wasn't a big deal. I have about 87% completion I think, and I really don't care to get 100%.

Agreed with you on the tonal shift at the end. I suppose it's important for the overarching story.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby pseudoidiot » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:10 pm UTC

Magnanimous wrote:
Koa wrote:Torment Tides of Numenera quietly released.
I backed the Kickstarter, and I'll be playing it once I get some free time.
Kickstarted as well. I've put about 10 hours or so into it so far. I'm really enjoying it. The characters and world-building are all fantastic. The mechanics aren't anything to write home about, but I pretty much expected that since it's based on the Numenera tabletop rpg. I felt pretty much the same way about that: the setting is neat the mechanics are 'meh'.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Koa » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:43 pm UTC

I just finished it. There are several encounters in the second half that have turn based talking, and each one has a unique approach. There's something of a small turn based heist for example, incorporating the turn based talking to distract someone. It's neat but it doesn't save the combat system as a whole. I also read some complaints about the proposed cypher system before release but it seemed fine to me.

The main problem is that all combat decisions are obvious and details irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the enemy does, it doesn't change your plans because you have no plans because you need no plans. Yet it's turn based and therefore you have to wait and watch their actions. I had to wait as long as a full minute once to get through a single turn of all the enemies I was facing before I could do anything. A minute can be a long time for someone to consider all the better things one can be doing with one's time. It might be a little fun to pair abilities with artifacts and cyphers for ridiculous damage output however it's very fleeting in the face of that sort of tedium.


If a mod wants to split off a new thread... I would have to begin with but I didn't think the game would be as remarkable as it is. I had randomly stumbled upon someone streaming a much earlier build, and it was the maw fight. "So much for my hopes for Torment." The maw fight was the worst time I had in the game, but the rest had me intrigued the whole time. Highly recommend. The whole of The Bloom is fantastic, and Sundermun was something else.

Replayability was my other curiosity. Answer: not much. Maybe one extra playthrough. There's not much difference between the skill checks and tides don't mean as much as you might think. PsT has more replayability as I remember.

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby no-genius » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:57 pm UTC

I'm about (just under) halfway through my second playthrough of Nier Automata. I love it.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Zohar » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:05 pm UTC

no-genius wrote:I'm about (just under) halfway through my second playthrough of Nier Automata. I love it.

It's on my wait list for when it gets cheaper! Looks pretty good. Is it difficult?
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby New User » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:13 am UTC

I bought and completed Antichamber in the past few days. I hadn't watched any videos, because I heard that it was a challenging puzzle game and didn't want to have any puzzles spoiled. And it was challenging, although not quite what I expected from what little I had seen about it. Mainly, I thought it was going to be all about navigation and attention to details, and less about item progression. Still, it was fun. I don't think I found every room, though. At least, I think I still haven't found all of those message placards which collect in the antechamber. Also, I don't know what the purple cube in the walls is all about. There are some parts I found in that game where I wasn't sure if it was a bug or a feature.

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Magnanimous » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:36 pm UTC

That sounds like my experience with Antichamber. Enjoyable, but it felt a little vague at times.

GFT: I got the most recent Humble Jumbo Bundle, which comes with Warhammer: Vermintide. I like the Warhammer series, so I decided to check it out.

Required disk space: THIRTY-SIX GIGABYTES. I think the highest I'd seen before that was twelve...
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Xenomortis » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:24 pm UTC

Largest I have (I think), from the Steam store:
Wolfenstein: The New Order - 50 GB
Doom (4) - 56 GB
Grand Theft Auto 5 - 72 GB
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby HES » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:45 pm UTC

Fallout 4 35GB
Arkham Knight 39GB
Bioshock Infinite 42GB
Mankind Divided 59GB
Just Cause 3 62GB

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Felstaff » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:40 am UTC

My first gaming PC's hard drive was 60gb. This was 2003. I could fit my entire games library (about 70 CD-ROMS) on it, and still have room for an MP3 library of about 6,000, the entire series of Samurai Jack and The Tick, plus a whole bunch o' films. My largest game was Return to Castle Wolfenstein, clocking in at a memorable 666 Mb. Then Call of Duty came along and was the first to hit a whole gigabubble. In the death throes of that PC (around 2007), I started working for a data company, and they had a whole bunch of 'broken' hard drives in the basement. I took a bunch of 'em home, reformatted 'em, and suddenly I had 5x40gb working drives, three of which could fit to the ageing brute. 2008-2011 were the wilderness years for me, PC-gaming-wise, as I bought a terrible machine that I've complained about on here a number of times, and basically gave up PC gaming for a while. So when I got this monster in 2011, 2 terabytes felt like more than enough space. The games I initially bought (Steam sales, so games released between 2010-2012) were all around the 2-5 gig range, so I don't know whether I blinked-or-missed-it, or just started not caring about disk space, but I missed the point where games jumped from ~5gb to ~50gb. It sure didn't feel like a gradual rise to me.

Anyway, all my space-eating games are MMOs: Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV, LotRO, WoW - all between 25 and 45 gigs. I only still play one of those, and I only have 25 gigabubbles left on this drive. I won't remove 'em as it's unlikely I'll buy any new games 'til I get a better machine, with bigger space and a GeForce 1080 Ti, now it's out. But I just can't part company with that much money right now.

I'm annoyed because my PlayStation 4 Pro only has 1Tb space, and I've already used up 600 gb of that, meaning that pretty soon I'll have to stop downloading games, and only buy physical media again (who does that?), although I only seem to use my PS4 to play World of Tanks anyway.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Xenomortis » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:47 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:The games I initially bought (Steam sales, so games released between 2010-2012) were all around the 2-5 gig range, so I don't know whether I blinked-or-missed-it, or just started not caring about disk space, but I missed the point where games jumped from ~5gb to ~50gb. It sure didn't feel like a gradual rise to me.

I remember seeing 10-20 quite a bit a few years ago (I guess 5?).
For me, it was Wolfenstein: TNO that was when I noticed the big jump toward 50 GB.

I remember the big shock I had when I saw the size of Doom 3 (~2 GB?).
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Felstaff » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:41 pm UTC

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I remember the big shock I had when I saw the size of Doom 3 (~2 GB?).

Yeah, Doom 3 and Max Payne 2 ate large chunks of my drive. They're one of the few games I've bought on the day of release. Queued up outside the store and everything!

Doom 3's DRM was a nightmare. I remember it refused to install until I'd deleted CloneCD off my hard drive. I should've said "fuck you" and searched for ways around it, but I ended up just removing the software entirely, just so's I could play the game.

I think the next biggest shock was Far Cry, which definitely hit around the 5gb mark (after all the patching). Though nothing seemed to come close in terms of size until Crysis or Fallout 3.

I'm justing checking through my 2008-2011 games, and damn if they're all not in the 10-15gb range. Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Left 4 Dead 2. Perhaps the shift in diskspace was not as cliffy as I first thought; I just started taking hard drives for granted.

Conversely, the smallest Windows-based graphical games I own (non-emulated, non-Flash, non-DOS, non-board/card) are Tomb Raider IV and Virtual Springfield at 1mb, but I don't think those count, as both games run entirely off the CD-ROMs. So I guess Eversion--my smallest Steam game--wins, at a paltry 13 mb. I literally can't remember playing that game, but according to Steam, I've unlocked all 14 achievements for it.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:58 pm UTC

I still remember when my PC-owning friend upgraded and put his old hard drive into his older machine and could fit every game he owned that the machine could run on it at once - an entire shoebox of floppies all installed onto one 400MB drive...

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Postby no-genius » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:11 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:
no-genius wrote:I'm about (just under) halfway through my second playthrough of Nier Automata. I love it.

It's on my wait list for when it gets cheaper! Looks pretty good. Is it difficult?

I've been playing on Normal, and in about 46 hours (I'm on route C now), I've only died around 20 times. Honestly most of those were probably in the first ten hours. There's auto chips on easy mode, but I've never had to use them. I'm usually bad at these games, so I don't think it's difficult. (I'm really bad at the hacking minigames, but most of the important ones give you infinite lives).

Edit: I didn't finish the demo the first time I tried it, and again on the same section of the full game. :D
It gives you a chip that uses healing items when your health gets too low, so I just ran out of health items.
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Postby Zohar » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:01 pm UTC

Cool, thanks! Looking forward to it.
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Felstaff » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:00 pm UTC

I'm just starting out Thimbleweed Park. I felt I owed it to Ron Gilbert to pay full price for one of his games. Even if I bought the Mega Monkey Windows '95 Monkey Island megapack (Secret, LeChuck's Revenge + Curse all in one giant box). And the Special Edition of the first two Monkey Islands on Steam. And again on iPhone. And DeathSpank. In fact, I've given Ron Gilbert a lot of money over the years, even if I can't account for every iteration of his games I've owned/played. (I have had, at one point, a pirated Amiga copy of Secret, but only three of the four disks worked, so I could never get to the final chapter on Amiga).

Initial thoughts are that it's engaging, and intriguing, and there's more menace and shady noire than the more playful LucasArts/SCUMM games of the late '80s/early 90s. It's also far too self-referential for its own good. Within five minutes of starting the game, one of the main characters spews a polemic about how Sierra Online's tactic of making death far too easy in adventure games was no fun, and that LucasArts games (referred to as MMucasFlem) increased player enjoyment through their games' mechanics of exploration superseding character death. You have to be at least over 30, or a staunch retrogamer, to appreciate that joke. It's also astoundingly geeky. See this screenshot:

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Yes, the '80s nostalgiatech is ramped thoroughly up to 11. I mean, Jesus, Ron, you're not Ernest Cline or Kimmie-Schmidt-era Tina Fey. I've barely begun the game, and I have to get my aspiring-game-developer character to apply to MMucasFlem by answering programming questions over a bulletin board system online application with a Commodore 64...! You have to study this guide to answer the questions:

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Which is like honey-glazed mana to gaming/programming geeks. I count myself as peripheral to that demographic, but even I thought this was delving too deep into technological esoterica. I'm not sure if this game will appeal to anyone who wouldn't wear a black t-shirt saying "no, I will not fix your computer".
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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby New User » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:48 pm UTC

Been playing Risk of Rain today. I find it quite difficult. I think at last I am improving. Unlocked two characters, bringing my total to four. I haven't looked up any guides to find any of the secrets, but maybe I should do that. I did find one hidden character, Acrid.

EDIT: I've been playing Risk of Rain a lot in the past couple of weeks, and enjoying it very much. Unlocked all characters except Mercenary. Finished the game with Acrid, Huntress, and Enforcer, each on rainstorm difficulty with no artifacts.

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Re: Gaming fleeting thoughts

Postby Deva » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:16 pm UTC

Stumbled upon Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator Case 1 – In Search of the Skunk-Ape. Assumed it to be a strange, but original monster. Sounded like a Scooby Doo creature.

Rated it as Teen, however. Murdered people in a park. "Exists", apparently. Explains the grim leap somewhat.
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