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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Rakysh » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:39 am UTC

Ah, it's a trap to make you download the marketplace :(

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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby SlyReaper » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:01 am UTC

Jorpho wrote:Steam Calculator
By some chance you want to see how much your STEAM account is worth.
Basically adds up all the games you have with the current prices and voila, that's your STEAM account current (face) value.


£966.05 GBP or $1447.05 USD

Yeah, I'll be slightly miffed if I ever lose my steam account.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Rakysh » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:13 am UTC

£300, but I paid less then a third of that. Hooray for sales.

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Postby SlyReaper » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:28 am UTC

Yeah I doubt I paid anywhere near that amount for my games, it was all bought in sales and multi-game packs which were also discounted, etc etc. I think of it more as the price you'd have to pay to meticulously replace every game on the list if you had to do it today.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:07 am UTC

$495.70 here, and indeed, hooray for sales.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:50 am UTC

Holy crap. Are you guys downloading games made of drugs or something?
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Postby existential_elevator » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:04 pm UTC

$1398.75 USD

thank goodness for Amnesiasoft making me feel like a reasonable person :lol:

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Postby Xeio » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:49 pm UTC

Calculator wouldn't work for me, public profile and everything. Though I only bought two games on steam, Civ 4 in a pack, and TF2 for $2.50. Though I have a couple others that come free with my video card or otherwise (free portal).

So someone needs to make an Impulse calculator for me. :P

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Postby SoapyHobo » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:04 pm UTC

According the calculator my account is worth £1054.73 ($1632.73), though I've only spent ~£450 (which Google tells me is ~$718).

Also, it thinks GTA 1+2 are both $30
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Felstaff » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:41 pm UTC

Steam games [currently] worth: $985.11
Amount I have spent, exactly (converting £ to $): $357.19
Total savings: $627.92

Although 4-5 of these games have been gifted to me. Games fluctuate in price so wildly throughout the year, I wouldn't be surprised if in ~1 month total worth would be $100 less than that.
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Postby aion7 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:34 pm UTC

$1475.79 USD
I don't know exactly how much I've spent. I would guess ~$500
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Postby achan1058 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:32 am UTC

Amnesiasoft wrote:Age of Empires III is $0.10 on the Games for Windows marketplace. It's probably a mistake, so I'd act fast.

Edit: It's no mistake. It's the deal of the day.
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lol, it's so popular that they are running out of game keys.

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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby novax6 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:08 am UTC

achan1058 wrote:
Amnesiasoft wrote:Age of Empires III is $0.10 on the Games for Windows marketplace. It's probably a mistake, so I'd act fast.

Edit: It's no mistake. It's the deal of the day.
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lol, it's so popular that they are running out of game keys.


Yep. Bought it, downloaded it, and now I can't play it for a least a week because they have no keys left. :?
Not the best first impression of GFWL, which wants to be Steam so fucking badly it's a little sad.

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Postby Amnesiasoft » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:12 am UTC

What?They're just imitating Steam perfectly. How many times have you seen Steam run out of keys with crazy sales? I certainly hear about those quite a bit.

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Postby novax6 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:58 am UTC

Amnesiasoft wrote:What?They're just imitating Steam perfectly. How many times have you seen Steam run out of keys with crazy sales? I certainly hear about those quite a bit.


Maybe it happens on steam, I've never had any problems with that, and I've got plenty of games on sale, but it doesn't make for good impressions when it happens during a big sale that's supposed to be drawing all kinds of new people to the program who've never used it before.
As far as a competitor to steam though, they have a lot of work to do with the actual program if they want to actually pose a threat.

Not to mention having it connected to the horrible games for windows name. They should have just called it something new completely.

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:20 am UTC

What really pisses me off is when I buy a game via Steam, and then once the game is running, I have to log into a GFWL account. If you don't have a GFWL account and really loathe the idea of having to remember yet another username/password pair for internet stuff, then NO GAME FOR YOU. What manner of bulldung is that?
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Postby You, sir, name? » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:34 am UTC

I have a really thought-through system for remembering my user-name for GFWL. It's the first thing that pops into my head when it asks me to log in, that is LeaveMeAloneGFWL.
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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:40 am UTC

I still haven't played Bioshock 2 yet even though I paid £30 to pre-order it. The reason for this is that I had a bout of nerd rage when it told me I had to dick around with this GFWL shit, and I still haven't forgiven it.

I did actually play for about half an hour, but when I tried to save my game it told me NO YOU HAVE TO USE GFWL. That was when the red mist descended.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Goldstein » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:44 pm UTC

I'm glad to hear so many others became hysterically enraged by GFWL. I bought some sort of rally game and haven't played it at all because I was asked to log into that. I can't really explain my disdain rationally; I even already have a GFWL account but I produced the username for it by rolling my face across the keyboard, so I'm not able to use that to log in unless I already have it copied to paste. I'm not really into boycotting things, but the very prospect of using GFWL is enough to keep me away, and I'd love to believe that attitude will eventually make it go away. In the meantime, they could help me out by putting a big warning banner on the games I buy. People have a right to know.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

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To be fair, that's a pretty big warning banner.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:59 pm UTC

My disdain for GFWL is that I'm already logged into Valve's server to play a game, why the FUCK should I have to log into a second layer of username/password bollocks? One is enough!

Also, I'm reaching the limit of how many usernames and passwords I can remember, and I really really really really do not want to create a new account unless I absolutely have to. You can't use the same password and username for all accounts because they sometimes have requirements like "it must be X letters long", or "it must contain at least one numerical character", and other have completely different ones. Sometimes a username is an email address (of which I have three), sometimes not. I only have 4 or 5 passwords and 3 or 4 usernames, but it's a pain trying to remember which username/password combinations apply to each account.

I have since created a GFWL account to play the Dawn Of War II games, but I'm buggered if I can remember the username and password for it.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Goldstein » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:13 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:they sometimes have requirements like "it must be X letters long", or "it must contain at least one numerical character", and other have completely different ones.

I thought I had this sewn up until I encountered "Your password must not contain two identical characters in sequence"!

Also, I don't remember having to log in to anything to play Fallout 3. Did I? It's very possible that I've repressed the memory.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

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Goldstein wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:they sometimes have requirements like "it must be X letters long", or "it must contain at least one numerical character", and other have completely different ones.

I thought I had this sewn up until I encountered "Your password must not contain two identical characters in sequence"!


Ha, I've never encountered that one. How in the name of Odin's beard does a requirement like that make a password more secure?
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Goldstein » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:25 pm UTC

It's probably just a temporary measure until they're able to introduce the "Your password must not be meaningful in any way" requirement.
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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby novax6 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:05 pm UTC

Well, to be fair, old GFWL and the new GFLW are two different things.

The former is what you guys were talking about, having to sign in to a game in order just to play it or save, which is pretty much the most obnoxious thing ever devised, and I believe is very much dead now because people hated it so much.

The latter is games for windows marketplace; microsoft's steam-wannabe service, which is where achan1058 was mentioning the deal. It's just a client to let you buy and install games. You can play them the same as if you bought it, no drm or windows live sign in type of bs required.

Why they would choose to continue using the GFW name is completely beyond me, but I guess MS knows something I don't.

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:10 pm UTC

novax6 wrote:Well, to be fair, old GFWL and the new GFLW are two different things.

The latter is games for windows marketplace; microsoft's steam-wannabe service


novax6 wrote:Not the best first impression of GFWL, which wants to be Steam so fucking badly it's a little sad.


Eh?
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Postby Jesse » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:10 pm UTC

He's responding to you Sly, where you said about hating having to log in AGAIN to load/save a game since you're already logged into Steam.

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:13 pm UTC

Yeah I get that bit. But there seem to be two distinct things here. GFWL or "Games For Windows Live" and GFLW (Games For Live Windows?). First he said GFWL was the steam wannabe, then he said GFLW is the steam wannabe. I'm just confused about which is which.
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Postby Xeio » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:16 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Yeah I get that bit. But there seem to be two distinct things here. GFWL or "Games For Windows Live" and GFLW (Games For Live Windows?). First he said GFWL was the steam wannabe, then he said GFLW is the steam wannabe. I'm just confused about which is which.
I can only assume it was a typo, since I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as GFLW.

I suppose I can see the unhappiness of GFWL though on top of Steam. I like it for the achievement tracking (because it carries over from the 360), but it shouldn't force you to login. I hope everyone realizes this is exactly why I dislike Steamworks though. :P

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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:21 pm UTC

I'm pretty sure I remember someone talking about getting one of the GTA games through Steam. But because of how it was packaged, it required your Steam login, GFWL, as well as an account with whatever online thing Rockstar games does. It was a huge convoluted mess that was barely functional.
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pseudoidiot wrote:It was a huge convoluted mess that was barely functional.

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Postby Felstaff » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:25 pm UTC

yeah, this is why I haven't played GTA IV. First thing it did on loading up was require a Rockstar twatty registration, and then committed the ultimate sin: sent an icon to my taskbar.


That fucken stayed there once I quit.

I declined to join Rockstar's corporate advertising shit-pumper, or whatever it does (I don't trust it). I couldn't see a way of starting the game without registering, so I neglected to start the game. Fuckers still got my £9.99 though.
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Postby novax6 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:05 pm UTC

Xeio wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:Yeah I get that bit. But there seem to be two distinct things here. GFWL or "Games For Windows Live" and GFLW (Games For Live Windows?). First he said GFWL was the steam wannabe, then he said GFLW is the steam wannabe. I'm just confused about which is which.
I can only assume it was a typo, since I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as GFLW.


Yeah, sorry, just a typo. All i was trying to say is they killed off the old thing everyone is hating on in here, for damn good reason, and now are using the name again for their new marketplace/steam-ish store.

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:06 pm UTC

Does that mean if I fire up Bioshock 2 again, I won't have to log into GFWL?
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Postby novax6 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:07 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:Does that mean if I fire up Bioshock 2 again, I won't have to log into GFWL?


No, most likely you will still have to. But they aren't going to be using it ever again for any new games afaik.

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Postby Amnesiasoft » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:21 pm UTC

Hey guys, you know you can make an offline account in a GFWL live game, right?

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Postby You, sir, name? » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:29 pm UTC

pseudoidiot wrote:I'm pretty sure I remember someone talking about getting one of the GTA games through Steam. But because of how it was packaged, it required your Steam login, GFWL, as well as an account with whatever online thing Rockstar games does. It was a huge convoluted mess that was barely functional.


I've had such an experience.

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Re: Great Steam Deals (And other Online Distribution Systems

Postby Minchandre » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:39 am UTC

Is it just me, or can anyone else not log into GFWL as well?


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