Vanguard wrote:Danko is hardly an innocent bystander. And he was wielding a gun.
Though, banker guy, maybe...
To be fair, he did try to kill water chick, and she just walked into the room.
Nath wrote:Didn't seem like much of a stretch. If some guy is running around stabbing innocent bystanders, it's a fair bet that he's one of the bad guys. If he's so desperate to get his hands on the McGuffin, it's a fair bet that he wants it for some Evil Nefarious Plan. HRG being in the business of stopping Evil Nefarious Plans, it stands to reason that he'd want to hang on to the McGuffin and try to figure out what the fuss is all about.
I'm not going to deny that Darth Maul on Speed clearly defines himself as a bad guy. But even if he IS a bad guy, Noah just decides to spit in his eye and keep him from the McGuffin. In order to accept Noah's actions we basically have to follow this line of reasoning
1.) Persons who kill to achieve their goals are evil
2.) Speed Guy kills to achieve his goals
3.) Thus, Speed Guy is evil
4.) Evil persons only want things for Neferious Plans
5.) Speed Guy wanted the McGuffin
6.) Thus Speed Guy wanted the McGuffin for a Nerferious Plan
7.) Good Guys risk their lives to stop Neferious Plans
8.) Noah is a Good Guy
9.) Thus, Noah will risk his life to stop a Neferious Plan
10.) Therefore, Noah will risk his life to prevent Speed Guy from getting the McGuffin
The big problem with this arguement lies in sub-arguement premise 4 and the following premise 6. It seems silly that Noah, a well informed individual would be so naive as to assume that an evil person could only want something as the linch-pin to a neferious plan. Maybe it has sentimental value? Maybe it has monetary value? Killing to achieve your goals might make you a bad guy, but being a bad guy doesn't mean that all your goals are world shattering plans of neferious evil which must be stopped at all cost.