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Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:10 pm UTC

I figured this could go here instead of General, since it's a TV theme. What truly horrifying things do you seen on television? I don't just mean the proliferation of television comedy programs aimed at the developmentally challenged (although that is a good one), but things like:
    - Those new "Coal is good! Coal is clean! You better like coal or you hate children!" commercials.
    - The Pound Puppy commercials that make it seem like the puppies WILL BE KILLED if you don't rescue them.
    - The Baby Alive dolls that poop, meaning you have to keep buying them diapers and food.
    - The "I didn't know! I didn't know that MY CHOICE would hurt me so much!" abortion ads, that, strangely, show a happy, successful woman. I get conflicting signals from that.

Theres more but I've blocked them out right now.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Aluminus » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:03 pm UTC

That "Kid Nation" program disturbs me somehow... I just can't put my finger on it.
Also: "Are you smarter than a kid one fourth your age?"
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby semicolon » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:13 am UTC

That Green bullshit that NBC is pulling, where they'd have an episode somehow related to environmentalism and turn their logo in the corner green. Don't get me wrong, global warming sucks and all, and I'm no enemy to environmentalism, but if I'm going to "go green" for whatever reason, I'm going to do so because of logical, thought-out arguments, not because a fucking TV show decides to "feature" it one week. Damn.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:19 am UTC

Down in Australia we have the wonder of anti-Unionist ads. But they aren't even that, they're anti-Labor party ads, that use the term "Unionist" as some kind of general negative label.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby JayDee » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:29 am UTC

I'm sick of Channel Ten (Australia) and their habit of inventing Season Finales. They decided to stop showing Veronica Mars, but it can't just be cut in the middle of the season, we'll advertise it a the big season finale! According to channel ten Veronica Mars has had about 5 seasons.

Now, Episode 4.08 of House is apparently a big season finale. Grr.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Aluminus » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:01 am UTC

Well eventually, TV will migrate to the internets, and hopefully we won't have these problems
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Rodan » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 am UTC

Aluminus wrote:Well eventually, TV will migrate to the internets, and hopefully we won't have these problems

Hello? The bay? Youtube? Bittorent?

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Malice » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:07 am UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:- The Pound Puppy commercials that make it seem like the puppies WILL BE KILLED if you don't rescue them.


Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that true? If nobody rescues them, eventually they're put down?
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:59 am UTC

Malice wrote:
Mighty Jalapeno wrote:- The Pound Puppy commercials that make it seem like the puppies WILL BE KILLED if you don't rescue them.


Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that true? If nobody rescues them, eventually they're put down?

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby trickster721 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:27 am UTC

That Green bullshit that NBC is pulling

Yeah, I was watching somebody else watching that for a few minutes, and there was this commercial with the guy who plays Sylar on Heroes, watching other people plant a tree, and informing us without a hint of irony that those people "are the real heroes". It made me realize how much I don't miss non-internet television AT ALL.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:30 am UTC

well in australia there was a brief add for a bank.

it involved a lady saying "im a stripper and a mum, and i need to know someone can handle my money."

she was dancing in nothing but a g-string, then in the next scene eating food with her husband and children.

i was like WHAT THE HELL?
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:34 am UTC

No, that was a Nandos ad.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:40 am UTC

really? i thought it was either a bank or nandos, so i guess bank.

still, it didnt last long did it?

and yeah, those union adds suck.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:40 am UTC

How is that disturbing? I would TOTALLY use that bank.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:47 am UTC

toughlove wrote:really? i thought it was either a bank or nandos, so i guess bank.

still, it didnt last long did it?

and yeah, those union adds suck.

Yeah, a bunch of people wanted 'A Current Affair" to do something about it, but Nando's was just like "Meh".
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Mighty Jalapeno wrote:How is that disturbing? I would TOTALLY use that bank.

Like I said, it was Nando's. Nando's campaign of reachng out to "The kids" through ever more transparent innuendos is truly disturbing me. Which is a shame, as they do good chips.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:52 am UTC

haha! nandos had nice chicken though.

its like chicken treat but spicier and nicer.

and thanks, i like my avatar too. i dont think pokemon will ever truly be gone.
(which is scary.)

and i dont really care about current affairs or today tonight for 2 reasons.

1. Chasers war on everything.
2. Today Tonight did a story about "the black death." aka emo kids in perth. it was absolute bull.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:01 am UTC

OH! Right! That was another!

The dolls that sing "Ring Around The Rosie". Is it really good to teach your four-year-old daughters about the Black Death?

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:04 am UTC

actually "ring around a rosie" wasn't written about the black death. it was just an interpretation made in the 50's.

its funny how now everyone thinks its true.

and this story wasnt about that, it was about emo/goth teenagers in fremantle hanging around and "all" of them did drugs and "all" of them smoked and if you see your children turning emo then to read their txt messages and diaries!!
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:16 am UTC

toughlove wrote:actually "ring around a rosie" wasn't written about the black death. it was just an interpretation made in the 50's.

its funny how now everyone thinks its true.

and this story wasnt about that, it was about emo/goth teenagers in fremantle hanging around and "all" of them did drugs and "all" of them smoked and if you see your children turning emo then to read their txt messages and diaries!!

Ah TT and ACA... You're either the funniest or the least funny things on television...
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby trickster721 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:18 am UTC

Heh. In this special emo report, they use it as a noun. As in, "is your child an emo?". It made my day.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby PS_Mouse » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:06 am UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:Ok. What's a Nando's?

it's a chain of fast food restaurants

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby bigglesworth » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:16 pm UTC

trickster721 wrote:Heh. In this special emo report, they use it as a noun. As in, "is your child an emo?". It made my day.


I first encountered the word as a noun. Since Emotional Hardcore is it's root, the shortened colloquial version is a noun.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:13 pm UTC

toughlove wrote:actually "ring around a rosie" wasn't written about the black death. it was just an interpretation made in the 50's.

"Ring a Ring o' Roses" or "Ring Around the Rosie" is a nursery rhyme or folksong and playground game that first appeared in print in 1881 but was recited to the current tune at least as early as the 1790s."

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Malice » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:10 pm UTC

Ring around the Rosie was around before the black death, and has had various forms. The interpretation of the most famous form as a metaphor for the black death happened, according to toughlove, in the 50s.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Rodan » Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:20 am UTC

It seems lately some shows are being lazy on the theme song.
Lost's is pretty much just a cord, and what I've seen of Heroes' isn't much better.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:54 am UTC

Mighty Jalapeno wrote:
toughlove wrote:actually "ring around a rosie" wasn't written about the black death. it was just an interpretation made in the 50's.

"Ring a Ring o' Roses" or "Ring Around the Rosie" is a nursery rhyme or folksong and playground game that first appeared in print in 1881 but was recited to the current tune at least as early as the 1790s."

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Never trust when a Nursery rhyme first appeared in print, they're so long lived without text that it's not really a good indication.
Jack and Jill is NOT about the french revolution by the way, just in case anyone thought that out there, it was first published long beforehand.

As far as I know however, Mary Mary quite Contrary is in fact the Bloody Mary, Queen of Scots.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby 4=5 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:44 am UTC

I thought jack and jill was about sex

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Postby toughlove » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:35 am UTC

or maybe jack and jill was about two children stacking it down a hill, and everyone laughed at them.
who knows?
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby no-genius » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:26 am UTC

JayDee wrote:I'm sick of Channel Ten (Australia) and their habit of inventing Season Finales. They decided to stop showing Veronica Mars, but it can't just be cut in the middle of the season, we'll advertise it a the big season finale! According to channel ten Veronica Mars has had about 5 seasons.

Now, Episode 4.08 of House is apparently a big season finale. Grr.

Well, doesn't American TV have mid-season breaks? I think ep.18 of Heroes had about 4 cliffhangers :(

Edit: and Ricky Gervais tells me (not directly, on his DVD) that Jack and Jill is about 2 (adulterous?) lovers. "And he broke his crown... which I later found out was his cranium"
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Maseiken » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:03 pm UTC

Odds are toughlove is right on this one, most inerpretations you here on rhymes were thought up many, MANY years after their composition.
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Postby JayDee » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:07 am UTC

4=5 wrote:I thought jack and jill was about sex

The rhyme I learnt certainly was:
"Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water,
Don't know what they did up there, came back with a daughter.

Jack and Jill went up the hill to have some fun,
Don't know what they did up there, came back with a son."

Maseiken wrote:Odds are toughlove is right on this one, most inerpretations you here on rhymes were thought up many, MANY years after their composition.

Yeah. Given that they rhyme and all, the Nursery Rhymes are going to last alot longer than any interpretation of them.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Morphing Ball » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:29 am UTC

PS_Mouse wrote:
Mighty Jalapeno wrote:Ok. What's a Nando's?

it's a chain of fast food restaurants

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I love Nando's but those ads are a bit daft.

On a slightly related note, apparently Ricky Gervais likes Nando's.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby sunkistbabe1 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:49 am UTC

A lot of the things posted here is why I stopped watching commercials entirely. I've seen maybe a dozen in the past 2 years (thankgod for downloads!) The few I have caught lately, leave me a little perplexed. I can't think of any off hand, but I have to tell them to my hubby to see if I am not the only one going... wtf?

The 'Green' thing NBC did was a little irritating, made 'Las Vegas' even more cheesy and forced, if that was even possible.

All 'reality' TV in general bothers me. Every now and then there is a good one which is entertaining. Most make me want to gouge my eyes out so I don't have to be subjected to such over the top drama that is force fed through my satellite signal.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:32 am UTC

Maseiken wrote:Odds are toughlove is right on this one, most inerpretations you here on rhymes were thought up many, MANY years after their composition.


haha! toughlove is always right!!

(not really.)

a good example of what Maseiken is saying is not a song, but Mozart wrote the first variation of the tune "twinkle twinkle little star." in the next couple of centuries, what could that change to?

and i know a REALLY dirty jack and jill song.

but is dont think an open forum is suitable... lol.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby toughlove » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:35 am UTC

sunkistbabe1 wrote:A lot of the things posted here is why I stopped watching commercials entirely. I've seen maybe a dozen in the past 2 years (thankgod for downloads!) The few I have caught lately, leave me a little perplexed. I can't think of any off hand, but I have to tell them to my hubby to see if I am not the only one going... wtf?


and also, there are very few well wriiten adds these days. australia have crap ones going BUY BUY BUY!!! but in europe, apparently they have "sophosticated" adds, where they are well scripted and shot, nothing that degrades your intelligence.

(someone from europe please tell us if this is ture)
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Savage Karate Attack » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:56 am UTC

Aluminus wrote:"Are you smarter than a kid one fourth your age?"


"Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?" is a misleading title. To accurately reflect the show's subject matter, it should be "Have You Retained Knowledge Well Into Your Adulthood That a Fifth Grader Recently Learned, and Is Your Recall of Said Knowledge Sharp Enough to Win You a Million Dollars?"

However, I realize that the latter isn't quite as marketable as the former, and so I begrudgingly let it slide.

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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby keozen » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:01 am UTC

After having visited both the US and Canada now the way you guys do advertisements is so very annoying!

It's usually (correct me if I'm wrong) along the lines of:
Teaser & credits > Adverts > Around 10 minutes of show > Adverts More show > Adverts > End of show > Adverts > Credits

In the Uk it's much simpler. For a half hour show it's:

First half of show > Adverts > Second half of show > Adverts before next show

For the hour long shows it's just a chunk of ads every now and again, no more than 3 lots though.
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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby Nyarlathotep » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:15 am UTC

keozen wrote:After having visited both the US and Canada now the way you guys do advertisements is so very annoying!

It's usually (correct me if I'm wrong) along the lines of:
Teaser & credits > Adverts > Around 10 minutes of show > Adverts More show > Adverts > End of show > Adverts > Credits

In the Uk it's much simpler. For a half hour show it's:

First half of show > Adverts > Second half of show > Adverts before next show

For the hour long shows it's just a chunk of ads every now and again, no more than 3 lots though.


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Re: Disturbing Trends In TV

Postby tiny » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:20 am UTC

This thread makes me so happy that I haven't watched TV in years!
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