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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Miles Invictus » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:14 am UTC

The Mighty Darkos. Donnie Darko: Tokyo Drift. Darko City.

I predict a decent film that would have less notoriety and more acceptance if it weren't forced to be a Donnie Darko sequel.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Hichhiker » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:34 am UTC

No, you are all wrong,

it'll be Donnie Darko 2: Die, Darko, Die

As everyone else said, without Kelly or even the title character - it'll be lame. On the bright side, there are not that many Darko's left to kill.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby The Skoot » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:00 am UTC

If they really need to do Bride of Darko it's probably better that it's not Richard Kelly, since didn't his director's cut basically destroy everything good about the original?

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby bigglesworth » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:57 pm UTC

Darko: Trinity needs his sister being a hot lesbian ninja.
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby 22/7 » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:43 pm UTC

The Skoot wrote:If they really need to do Bride of Darko it's probably better that it's not Richard Kelly, since didn't his director's cut basically destroy everything good about the original?

You're going to have to at the very least give some kind of an example of that. For example, the Director's Cut's most noticeable change helped to clear up some of the more vague parts of the movie (what's that shit coming out of people's chests, for example) which really had no explanation in the original.
Totally not a hypothetical...

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Gunfingers » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:51 pm UTC

I've still never seen the Director's Cut. I should probably do that before Donnie Darko Reloaded comes out.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby 22/7 » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:11 pm UTC

Gunfingers wrote:I've still never seen the Director's Cut. I should probably do that before Donnie Darko Reloaded comes out.

Gawd I hope there's a Revolutions next.
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Narsil » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:17 pm UTC

I really can't come up with any context.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby TheAmazingRando » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:13 pm UTC

The first time I saw Donnie Darko, it was the director's cut, and it was still good. Most of the stuff he adds by way of explanation is stuff anyone interested could find online after watching the movie anyway.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Mathmagic » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:38 pm UTC

TheAmazingRando wrote:The first time I saw Donnie Darko, it was the director's cut, and it was still good. Most of the stuff he adds by way of explanation is stuff anyone interested could find online after watching the movie anyway.

I'd bet that the Wikipedia/online explanations were added after the director's cut was released.
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby TheAmazingRando » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:46 am UTC

They had a lot of stuff on the Donnie Darko website, too, you just had to figure out how to navigate it to get to it. I'm pretty sure it was pre-director's cut.
In fact, the first time I heard of the movie was from the website, because it was a sort of flash/html puzzle. I didn't realize it was linked with a film until later.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Cryopyre » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:49 am UTC

22/7 wrote:Agreed. I loved the original and it kind of hurts my insides a little to think that they're going to make another.

Do you think that people thought about plays/operas this way a couple hundred years ago?


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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby The Skoot » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:53 am UTC

22/7 wrote:
The Skoot wrote:If they really need to do Bride of Darko it's probably better that it's not Richard Kelly, since didn't his director's cut basically destroy everything good about the original?

You're going to have to at the very least give some kind of an example of that. For example, the Director's Cut's most noticeable change helped to clear up some of the more vague parts of the movie (what's that shit coming out of people's chests, for example) which really had no explanation in the original.


I possibly could have made it a bit clearer, but that was an honest question. I've never seen the director's cut, but that's what everyone who has seen it has told me (and IMHO the ambiguousness was the best thing the original had going for it).

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Roland Lockheart » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:59 pm UTC

I'm hoping that this movie won't be as much a sequal as it is a continuation of the storyline. Unfortunatly I'm betting a Butterfly Effect II vibe from this...
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Malice » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:52 am UTC

22/7 wrote:
The Skoot wrote:If they really need to do Bride of Darko it's probably better that it's not Richard Kelly, since didn't his director's cut basically destroy everything good about the original?

You're going to have to at the very least give some kind of an example of that. For example, the Director's Cut's most noticeable change helped to clear up some of the more vague parts of the movie (what's that shit coming out of people's chests, for example) which really had no explanation in the original.


I haven't brought myself to watch the Director's Cut yet; but from what I can tell, peoples' main complaints seem to be exactly that: that Kelly removed much of the delicious ambiguity of the first film (where you're like, "whoah, chest tubes of destiny? what? freaky"). Hence the idea that the original Donnie Darko owes its success to the way (I suppose studio-enforced) edits made an intriguing jigsaw puzzle out of a less intriguing photograph, and therefore was entirely accidental. Reports of Southland Tales' awfulness somewhat confirm this notion.

hmmm, perhaps if we cut out random bits of Southland Tales, it would suddenly be awesome?

Oh, and... umm... The Good, the Bad, and the Darko.
Or, Once Upon a Time In Samantha Darko. You know, the porno sequel. ("pornquel", n. blatantly exploitative follow-up to better movie)
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby tiny » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:23 pm UTC

Donnie Darko 2: Everything you always wanted to know about Darko but were afraid to ask

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Spoffin » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:49 am UTC

I admit this might well be the least of our worries but,
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didn't Samantha die in the plane crash? Wasn't she on the plane that was flying back from LA(?) that had its engine ripped off by the time-tornado thing? Wasn't the whole point of them going to LA so that she could be in Sparkle Motion? Or am I getting confused?
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby TheAmazingRando » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:05 pm UTC

I know yours was a spoiler too, but:
Spoiler:
Nothing in the film (post-engine crash) actually happened (in the universe the film ends in). After Donnie rips the engine from the plane and sending it back in time, everyone wakes up from the tangent universe and Donnie is killed.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby 22/7 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

Roland Lockheart wrote:I'm hoping that this movie won't be as much a sequal as it is a continuation of the storyline. Unfortunatly I'm betting a Butterfly Effect II vibe from this...

Maybe I'm way off base here, but aren't "sequal" and "continuation of the storyline" kind of... synonymous?
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Poopraham Lincoln » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:55 pm UTC

Yeah... trip to LA chasing Frank's ghost? Sigh.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Spoffin » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:44 pm UTC

TheAmazingRando wrote:I know yours was a spoiler too, but:
Spoiler:
Nothing in the film (post-engine crash) actually happened (in the universe the film ends in). After Donnie rips the engine from the plane and sending it back in time, everyone wakes up from the tangent universe and Donnie is killed.

Spoiler:
Right, yeah, that kinda works. Cos while you might argue that the plane's engine needs to go back in time again to fulfil the paradox, you'd also kinda expect the Darko family to avoid planes for a little while.

That does make his mother and sister being on the plane a bit pointless though, doesn't it? Given as that then didn't happen. I dunno.

EDIT: That might BE the point actually, cos his girlfriend wouldn't die either the second time around.
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby existential_elevator » Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:46 pm UTC

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby TheAmazingRando » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:14 pm UTC

Spoffin wrote:
TheAmazingRando wrote:I know yours was a spoiler too, but:
Spoiler:
Nothing in the film (post-engine crash) actually happened (in the universe the film ends in). After Donnie rips the engine from the plane and sending it back in time, everyone wakes up from the tangent universe and Donnie is killed.

Spoiler:
Right, yeah, that kinda works. Cos while you might argue that the plane's engine needs to go back in time again to fulfil the paradox, you'd also kinda expect the Darko family to avoid planes for a little while.

That does make his mother and sister being on the plane a bit pointless though, doesn't it? Given as that then didn't happen. I dunno.

EDIT: That might BE the point actually, cos his girlfriend wouldn't die either the second time around.

Spoiler:
Yeah. The important thing was that his family was out of the house, so he could have the party, so Frank could go out and buy beers and Donnie could kill him. The fact that his mom and sister were on the plane, I think, was just for the emotional impact, sort of a "why is he killing them?" before you realize that everything he's done is going to be undone.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby emceng » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:59 am UTC

Donnie Darko 2: Destroying a Good Movie with a Sequel

Donnie Darko 2: Back to the Darko

Donnie Darko 2: Darko on a Dead Man's Chest

Donnie Darko 2: Darko takes Manhattan!
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby apeman5291 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:43 pm UTC

The Skoot wrote:
22/7 wrote:
The Skoot wrote:If they really need to do Bride of Darko it's probably better that it's not Richard Kelly, since didn't his director's cut basically destroy everything good about the original?

You're going to have to at the very least give some kind of an example of that. For example, the Director's Cut's most noticeable change helped to clear up some of the more vague parts of the movie (what's that shit coming out of people's chests, for example) which really had no explanation in the original.


I possibly could have made it a bit clearer, but that was an honest question. I've never seen the director's cut, but that's what everyone who has seen it has told me (and IMHO the ambiguousness was the best thing the original had going for it).


I understand what you're saying, but I have to disagree. See I think that edits because of time constraint, cost, publicity, etc are crimes against humanity, and the movie should follow as closely to the intended plot as possible. Given that Kelly wrote and directed Darko, I like his cut.

As far as Darko 2: The Two Portals, I am NOT pleased. I think I might start a picket outside the theater on the day of its release. Anybody with me?
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Fin Samar » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:44 pm UTC

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That's what I was thinking of. God did that butcher the whole idea of American Psycho.

"Hey guys, you remember the movie with Christian Bale where he's this yuppie that kills people in interesting way for no real reason? Well, okay, let's make a sequel about this girl that... has nothing to do with Patrick Bateman (yet), we'll think of that later. Alright? Also it has nothing to do with yuppie culture, or the loss of identity in a world that embraces conformity. Sound good to everyone? It'll be about getting by in college. Oh and it'll have the chick from that seventies show and William Shatner. "

Donnie Darko 2: End of Donniegelion will suck, I have no doubt. I'll rent it for laughs.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Maseiken » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:39 pm UTC

Donnie Darko 2: Attack of the Dark

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Spoffin » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:14 am UTC

apeman5291 wrote:As far as Darko 2: The Two Portals, I am NOT pleased. I think I might start a picket outside the theater on the day of its release. Anybody with me?

Bit of a waste of time to picket a theatre for a straight-to-dvd flick, but I'm always up for some aesthetic fascism.

Comeon guys, don't you think its REALLY unfair to prejudge this movie before you've even seen it? I thought the original was great, so the sequel should be like, twice as good. Like Starship Troopers 2! Or Wild Things 2!! Or Basic Instinct 2!!!
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Amnesiasoft » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:45 am UTC

Spoffin wrote:Comeon guys, don't you think its REALLY unfair to prejudge this movie before you've even seen it?

No.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby thisisdavid » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:53 am UTC

this is like when i found out that "the giver" was a trilogy. some loose ends shouldn't be tied up.
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby semicarbazone » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:28 am UTC

Wow, this looks terrible.

Thanks hollywood for fully exploiting the angsty teen market.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Not a snake » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:51 am UTC

Darko in Wonderland!

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Fiddeponken » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:56 pm UTC

Hmm, I have a bad feeling about this :( But, who knows, if it's just half as good as the first one i might be worth seeing

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Kaelri » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:38 pm UTC

I won't count it out until I've seen it. But I would only be optimistic about Donnie Darko, Vol. II: The Lion, The Witch and The Six-Foot-Tall Demonic Bunny Rabbit if it were directed by someone like David Lynch, who I knew had the capacity to match or surpass the original.

thisisdavid wrote:this is like when i found out that "the giver" was a trilogy. some loose ends shouldn't be tied up.


Messenger was disappointing, but Gathering Blue actually makes an excellent companion to The Giver. She wasn't selling out; it's a very different book.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby aleflamedyud » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:27 am UTC

Kaelri wrote:I won't count it out until I've seen it. But I would only be optimistic about Donnie Darko, Vol. II: The Lion, The Witch and The Six-Foot-Tall Demonic Bunny Rabbit if it were directed by someone like David Lynch, who I knew had the capacity to match or surpass the original.

I admit I haven't seen much of Lynch's work (just Dune, really), but I still feel that your comment insults the original "Donnie Darko".
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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby SecondTalon » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:03 am UTC

..yeah, go get something by Lynch that isn't Dune.

Makes Donnie Darko seem as deep and complex as your standard Carebears episode.
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Postby Kaelri » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:39 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:..yeah, go get something by Lynch that isn't Dune.

Makes Donnie Darko seem as deep and complex as your standard Carebears episode.


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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Narsil » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:33 am UTC

Not a snake wrote:Darko in Wonderland!

Through the darking-glass?
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Postby StupendousYappi » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:57 pm UTC

aleflamedyud wrote:I admit I haven't seen much of Lynch's work (just Dune, really), but I still feel that your comment insults the original "Donnie Darko".


An immediate recommendation from me would be Mulholland Drive. It's more recent and I believe it's his best work. If you enjoy this one, you'll like his other works; they all have this ephemera quality with big emphasis on the surreal.

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Re: Donnie Darko 2: Dark Harder

Postby Jesse » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:02 pm UTC

I hate David Lynch.


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