Firefly vs. Heroes.

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Firefly longer, no Heroes.
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Heroes longer, one season of Firefly.
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I'm a moron and don't like either. Durrr....
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Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Jedifreak » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:09 am UTC

Alright, this is probably the most difficult question that anyone can think of.

If you could live in a world where Firefly had more than one season, but Heroes never aired, would you live there? Or would you want one season of Firefly with all the seasons that have and will be made of Heroes?
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Jesse » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:32 am UTC

Definitely Firefly. The frst season of Heroes was passable at best and has been terrible ever since.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Princess Marzipan » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:29 am UTC

I've never seen Heroes.

Easy choice.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Mother Superior » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:41 am UTC

Jedifreak wrote:Alright, this is probably the most difficult question that anyone can think of.

Dude, not even close. Get me some Firefly!

The people in Heroes keep being stupid all the time. First season was good, but nowhere near Firefly-good.

Also, I've never heard anyone compare these two shows... odd choice for a poll.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Gojoe » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:42 am UTC

I want to know the one person that voted for heroes... Firefly wins HANDS DOWN!
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Zohar » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:55 am UTC

Come on! While I didn't adore Firefly (it was good but I didn't feel it had enough time to really stand out), Heroes was OK in their first season and incredibly bad afterwards. No contest.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Dobblesworth » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:18 am UTC

The Heroes plot has progressively become a cluster-f*** of a trainwreck over the past series, and while I have not seen Firefly yet, I can guess they might respect their character set-up and overall lore for them not to screw it over and retcon it all back and forth every episode.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby headprogrammingczar » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:26 pm UTC

Now, if your second option was "No Firefly; Joss Whedon writes Heroes", I would vote for that, but as it stands, definitely more Firefly.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Aikanaro » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:04 pm UTC

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few....Despite being a Heroes fan (I'm still trying to figure out WHY), and having never seen Firefly, I know that the whole world would be a better place with more Whedonosity. Firefly ftw.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby headprogrammingczar » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:24 pm UTC

GO WATCH FIREFLY NOW!!!
Seriously, right this second. It's on hulu.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Mega D » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:38 pm UTC

The best of both worlds would be if they could switch places, if Heroes had been canceled after one season and Firefly had been allowed to continue. I was crazy about Heroes through the first season, and now I can barely stand it.

Still, as has been said, it's not even remotely close.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Texas_Ben » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:27 pm UTC

I tried to get into heroes the first season and wasn't impressed. Everything I have heard tells me that after first season it wasn't that great anyway?

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby culled » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:31 pm UTC

This is easy, Firefly is far superior. And I'd make the same choice if Heroes had kept up at its season 1 quality level.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Jedifreak » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:07 pm UTC

headprogrammingczar wrote:Now, if your second option was "No Firefly; Joss Whedon writes Heroes", I would vote for that, but as it stands, definitely more Firefly.

That would have also been quite interesting.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby DarkKnightJared » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:15 am UTC

I started watching Heroes during the second season and enjoyed it...been uninterested in it and not watching for a few weeks now. Might change that, but it wouldn't bother me either way.

So Firefly.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby bigstrat2003 » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:24 am UTC

Never seen heroes, but it has to be better than Firefly. That show was awful.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Mother Superior » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:40 am UTC

bigstrat2003 wrote:Never seen heroes, but it has to be better than Firefly. That show was awful.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby FoS » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:19 pm UTC

I actually voted for 1 Season for Firefly despite being a huge fan of the series.

I loved Firefly from the moment I watched the opening of The Train Job which was the first episode aired on local tv.

My reasoning behind my vote is that while Firefly is awesome, what would have happened if it had continued?
Would be still have Serenity? Would it have carried on to become the train wreck that is Buffy?

As it exists it's awesome and we all yearn for more, but that doesn't mean it would have carried on as awesome as it was.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Nath » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:36 pm UTC

That's a good point, and I wish more shows would just stop while they're ahead. However, I think one (well, half) a season is less than the ideal lifetime for a show like Firefly. Two to four seasons would have been perfect. Maybe five.

So yeah, I voted for more Firefly. Heroes was moderately entertaining for a while, but not really in the same ballpark.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby b.i.o » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:57 pm UTC

I have never seen heroes, so Firefly hands down.

I do agree that far too many shows overstay their welcome, however, I also think that they could definitely have made at least one more very good season.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby headprogrammingczar » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:32 pm UTC

They could at least give us some more "non-revealing" insight into Book's character.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby SlyReaper » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:17 pm UTC

World's most predictable poll. Of course it's Firefly. Heroes was good in the first season, but the rest was ultra-concentrated shit. Firefly was EXCELLENT in the first season, and sadly never got a second.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby mosc » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:41 pm UTC

Firefly had A LOT of room to grow into. It was very narrow in scope on a universal scale and left so much untouched territory. I think Firefly could have been a universe, not just a series. In a lot of ways, the movie closed down a lot of those doors into more simplistic pieces with endings but if the series had continued, it could have been done in much more intricate ways. 5 seasons of awesome minimum.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Alder » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:16 am UTC

Jedifreak wrote:Alright, this is probably the most difficult question that anyone can think of.

Except perhaps not, with the poll currently sitting at 89% for Firefly!
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby ArgonV » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:34 am UTC

So the questions is Heroes or Firefly? And someone is actually proposing there's a reason not to vote for Firefly?

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Xeio » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:35 pm UTC

ArgonV wrote:So the questions is Heroes or Firefly? And someone is actually proposing there's a reason not to vote for Firefly?
And apparently 5 people agree. I propose a witch hunt to find them. :P

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Vieto » Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:56 am UTC

where can I watch firefly outside of the states? It won't work for hulu.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Jesse » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:23 pm UTC

You can buy the DVD's

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby cathrl » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:07 am UTC

I loved Firefly. I watch Heroes because it's on, normally while surfing.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby SlyReaper » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:55 am UTC

Xeio wrote:
ArgonV wrote:So the questions is Heroes or Firefly? And someone is actually proposing there's a reason not to vote for Firefly?
And apparently 5 people agree. I propose a witch hunt to find them. :P


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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Angua » Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:11 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:
Xeio wrote:
ArgonV wrote:So the questions is Heroes or Firefly? And someone is actually proposing there's a reason not to vote for Firefly?
And apparently 5 people agree. I propose a witch hunt to find them. :P


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FoS wrote:I actually voted for 1 Season for Firefly despite being a huge fan of the series.

I loved Firefly from the moment I watched the opening of The Train Job which was the first episode aired on local tv.

My reasoning behind my vote is that while Firefly is awesome, what would have happened if it had continued?
Would be still have Serenity? Would it have carried on to become the train wreck that is Buffy?

As it exists it's awesome and we all yearn for more, but that doesn't mean it would have carried on as awesome as it was.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Orca » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:59 am UTC

Firefly, I loved that show and Heroes doesn't seem all that good to me.
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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:27 pm UTC

Yeah, let's not. I don't like the notion of someone not wanting to state their opinion for fear of some internet style witch hunting.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Belial » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:47 pm UTC

FoS wrote:My reasoning behind my vote is that while Firefly is awesome, what would have happened if it had continued?
Would be still have Serenity?


You mean the movie that, while awesome, was not really in the tone of the series, and directly contradicted it in a number of places, thus damaging both?

FoS wrote:Would it have carried on to become the train wreck that is Buffy


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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby culled » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:35 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
FoS wrote:My reasoning behind my vote is that while Firefly is awesome, what would have happened if it had continued?
Would be still have Serenity?


You mean the movie that, while awesome, was not really in the tone of the series, and directly contradicted it in a number of places, thus damaging both?

Where did Serenity directly contradict Firefly other than Simon breaking River out?

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Nath » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:37 pm UTC

Belial wrote:You mean the movie that, while awesome, was not really in the tone of the series, and directly contradicted it in a number of places, thus damaging both?

How did it contradict the series? I don't think I rewatched Serenity after finishing Firefly, but I don't remember any glaring contradictions.

I agree that the tone was different, though. Serenity was entertaining enough, but it lacked something the series had.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Xeio » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:28 am UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Yeah, let's not. I don't like the notion of someone not wanting to state their opinion for fear of some internet style witch hunting.
Phhht. It never stopped me. Hell, I got the anime thread renamed. :P

Plus, we'd only flog them, gently. Incidentally, that whole thread is worth a read, but for some reason this came to mind while writing this.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Belial » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:49 am UTC

Nath wrote:
Belial wrote:You mean the movie that, while awesome, was not really in the tone of the series, and directly contradicted it in a number of places, thus damaging both?

How did it contradict the series? I don't think I rewatched Serenity after finishing Firefly, but I don't remember any glaring contradictions.

I agree that the tone was different, though. Serenity was entertaining enough, but it lacked something the series had.


I recall there being a whole list of places, but at the moment it is 7 am, and only one leaps to mind: The way River was TOTALLY OKAY as soon as she had the Miranda memory out of her brainpan.

Because, you know, we didn't establish that she was missing large, physical, and behaviourally-important parts of her brain....

Also, yeah, Simon breaking River out is kindof a big deal.
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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby culled » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:54 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
Nath wrote:
Belial wrote:You mean the movie that, while awesome, was not really in the tone of the series, and directly contradicted it in a number of places, thus damaging both?

How did it contradict the series? I don't think I rewatched Serenity after finishing Firefly, but I don't remember any glaring contradictions.

I agree that the tone was different, though. Serenity was entertaining enough, but it lacked something the series had.


I recall there being a whole list of places, but at the moment it is 7 am, and only one leaps to mind: The way River was TOTALLY OKAY as soon as she had the Miranda memory out of her brainpan.

Because, you know, we didn't establish that she was missing large, physical, and behaviourally-important parts of her brain....

Also, yeah, Simon breaking River out is kindof a big deal.

That didn't contradict the series. River always had lucid periods especially when the situation called for it (e.g talking to Badger's men). She was clearly still the same old crazy River after the events on Miranda.

And I don't really think Simon breaking River out was a big deal. The movie needed to quickly introduce River's backstory and her relationship with Simon so rather than introducing new characters that would be in the first 5 minutes and then forgotten they used Simon. In-universe there are plenty of reasons that Simon wouldn't have wanted Mal to know that he personally broke River out.

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Re: Firefly vs. Heroes.

Postby Belial » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:34 pm UTC

That justification just has the movie rushed, crammed, and misleading, rather than contradictory.

Either way, the movie was good, it just didn't fit the series very well. Certainly not as well as more series would have.
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