Phrozt wrote:Spoiler:No Uprising:
As mentioned a few times already, there was no uprising. The weapons were WAY more advanced and could do unspeakable things... and apparently the aliens amassed them and made them on a regular basis... but never used them. What? And we saw Chris make a bomb in about 5 seconds! Now, of course we've already discussed that Chris is much more advanced than his fellows for whatever reason... but other weapons *were* made, so obviously he wasn't the only one capable of doing so. Granted, taking on the entire world would be a rather large task, but there were 1.2 million of them at the time, and w/the eggs, and the fact that they doubled in size in just a few years, I'm guessing a hostile takeover could have easily happened. It also seemed that they had the mentality to do so, given the amount of crime and poor living conditions they endured on a regular basis.
I might have more later, but I need to get some things done.
Alien weapons we see:
-Automatic slugthrower, not visibly more violent than anything humans have made.
-Unusual explosives that release dark clouds and electrical discharges, not much more impact than a block of C4 or a cannon round.
-Lightning gun, Kills soft targets on the spot. Didn't see much of what it did to surfaces and hard targets.
-Blast-thing Wikkus shot the Nigerians with, packed a nice firm concussive impact.
-Bullet magnet, held up against barrage of small arms fire, returned it with an effect similar to a hefty fragmentation explosive.
None of these have killing power that hasn't been shoved into a similarly sized package by human engineering.
Alien materials are shown to be about as vulnerable to human weaponry as our own armoured fighting deallies. (command ship shot down, power armour wrecked by antitank rifle + car ramming, along with sustained small arms) None of what they displayed on the ground would win a war against a human army, simply by being there. The alien tech in this movie war rather worn down and low key.
Where's their Air support? Their anti-aircraft defences? Their naval capability? Artillery? They have none of the tools needed to conduct a war. At best, they could get into a city and become a near impossibility to force out. But the instant the try to leave it, they're gone. So long as they attract the Ire of any major nation, which they would as soon as they became a real threat to anyone.
And what is your evidence of an industrial base? [Well, the question of how they'd still had weapons to pawn after so long on earth without building new ones, I'll admit. But if they had any significant production capacity, wouldn't whoever controlled it be able to carve out a pretty svelte economic niche? And wouldn't it be a massive target for MNU to capture?] And what about any of the other economic pillars required to wage war? How will they feed their millions once blockades settle in?
Oh, and that Chris, a skilled engineer, was able to quickly construct an improvised explosive out of a few random components in a lab filled with weaponry? Someone with minimal training could do that with a kitchen. This is not the act of some kind of MacGuyverian god-king of mechanisms, he reassembled something that may have already been a bomb in the first place.
You're wanking these guys pretty hard without much precedent. Fancy zap-guns and metal gears do not win wars.
gmalivuk wrote:People won't care what you have to say about aliens if their so alien that we don't care what happens to them.
Er, Identity statement is itself?
I'd think the people complaining about this would argue that there's room between "Acts exactly like peoplefolk" and "incomprehensible space monster". You just need to know that the audience may take a while to pick up on the alien mannerisms, or toss in a few scraps of exposition to set them up. Plenty of room for that when they were talking about recreational train derailment and having no concept of property. Or any of the interactions between humans and aliens during the first act.