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Re: Firefly & Serenity (Use Spoilers!)

Postby The EGE » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:59 pm UTC

Throughout the entirety of...ever... Simon never takes a pose remotely that aggressive.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:24 pm UTC

What? Simon can kick ass when he needs to. He punches out Mal, and gets pretty violent when those guards are taking him, Jayne and River away.
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Postby Cecilff2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:42 pm UTC

Not to mention he tries to take out Jubal Early.

Even after he gets shot in the leg.

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Postby The EGE » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:57 pm UTC

I'm not disputing that he shows signs of badassery in any number of episodes. But his look is always righteous indignation, rather than murderous.
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Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:03 pm UTC

I don't really disagree with you, but I think the look on Simons face when he punched out Mal in Serenity, and when he tackled Jubal was one of... maybe not indignation, but he certainly was unleashing his inner badass. Indignation came more when he was yelling down the townsfolk before they burned River, I'd say.

Simon is no Jayne, or Mal, or Zoey or Shepard, to be sure, conflict is something that makes his blood boil, whereas those four can treat it with the calm calculation of experience. But Simon isn't ENTIRELY a sniveling stiff collared weakling, only sort of. I'd say by the end of the series he's embraced a good deal of his inner badass.
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Postby Ryom » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:08 pm UTC

Aaaand despite strong arguments from both sides, his cover still looks terrible :wink:

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Postby SirBryghtside » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:51 pm UTC

You really don't get a true feeling of just how bad some of those covers are until you see them full-size. The ones he mentioned are so uncanny valley it hurts...
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Postby The EGE » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:36 am UTC

I'll give you that, Izzy. Though he showed signs of badassery early on:

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When he jumped Dobson from the upper deck in the pilot episode, and risked the wrath of Jayne by drugging him in Train Job. Also, for leaving his old life for River, which is impressive in itself.
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Postby Spambot5546 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:21 pm UTC

His level of badassery isn't in contention. It's pretty far up there. It's more that he's being depicted as more aggressive than is the norm for him.
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Postby Cecilff2 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:57 pm UTC

SirBryghtside wrote:You really don't get a true feeling of just how bad some of those covers are until you see them full-size. The ones he mentioned are so uncanny valley it hurts...


I'll agree on that. Mal and Inari just look so...what the hell is wrong with their face? And kaylee's neck is like a giraffe with a tiny tiny head. Simon's...there's just something wrong with it. I can't quite put my finger on it. Book, Wash, and Jayne look the best to me, with River's being alright.

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Postby Zorlin » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:17 am UTC

Going to see Serenity on the big screen tomorrow... and a pretty lady from the interwebs. Hopefully she's not too much of a creeper.

I have to say though, as places to first meet go, that's pretty awesome.
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Postby Lazar » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:23 pm UTC

Eh, I've heard that movies are bad dates. Not that I would know.
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Postby headprogrammingczar » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:40 pm UTC

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SirBryghtside wrote:You really don't get a true feeling of just how bad some of those covers are until you see them full-size. The ones he mentioned are so uncanny valley it hurts...


I'll agree on that. Mal and Inari just look so...what the hell is wrong with their face? And kaylee's neck is like a giraffe with a tiny tiny head. Simon's...there's just something wrong with it. I can't quite put my finger on it. Book, Wash, and Jayne look the best to me, with River's being alright.

Mal looks like a wax statue of Captain Jack Harkness.
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Postby The EGE » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:00 am UTC

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Postby drego642 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:24 pm UTC

*dons necromancer's robes*

I love Firefly, and I've only seen about half of the episodes. I'm catching up on it right now, with a marathon on the Science channel. :D

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Postby eSOANEM » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:28 pm UTC

drego642 wrote:*dons necromancer's robes*

I love Firefly, and I've only seen about half of the episodes. I'm catching up on it right now, with a marathon on the Science channel. :D


Prepare for feels.

Good and bad feels.

But far more good than bad.

Which is your favourite ep so far? My favourite's War Stories, but you won't have come to that yet.
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eSOANEM wrote:
drego642 wrote:*dons necromancer's robes*

I love Firefly, and I've only seen about half of the episodes. I'm catching up on it right now, with a marathon on the Science channel. :D


Prepare for feels.

Good and bad feels.

But far more good than bad.

Which is your favourite ep so far? My favourite's War Stories, but you won't have come to that yet.


Oh, hard to say.. Each episode seems better than the last one I watched, no matter what order I see them in. :P I don't think I could specify an episode right now, but there some parts that, to me, are just absolutely unforgettable. For example, I can't for the life of me find which episode it's from, but there's that one part where Simon takes the liberty to drug Jayne just because he "didn't feel comfortable with him in charge", which is what cemented the doctor as my favorite character. Who is yours?

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Postby SirBryghtside » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:20 pm UTC

Awww, that marathon sounds awesome... wish it was showing over here. I need to dust off my boxset.
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Postby drego642 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:03 pm UTC

SirBryghtside wrote:Awww, that marathon sounds awesome... wish it was showing over here. I need to dust off my boxset.

Yeah, sorry to hear that. Sadly I have to leave now, so I can't finish it. :(

And eSOANEM, "War Stories" just ended. It was amazing!

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Postby Alder » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:46 pm UTC

My boxed set is out on loan, to someone in another town, and has been for QUITE SOME TIME. *twitch*
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Postby Jorpho » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:16 am UTC

Maybe it's just because it was the last thing I saw, but the movie still stands out in my mind just a little bit over the series.

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Postby eSOANEM » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:44 am UTC

drego642 wrote:And eSOANEM, "War Stories" just ended. It was amazing!


I know right? It's pretty close with half the series though.

I really like the whole crew though, it's really hard to choose between Kaylee, Wash, Mal and Simon for me although I'd probably be leaning slightly towards Kaylee because she is just so gorram cheerful.

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Postby drego642 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:24 am UTC

eSOANEM wrote:I know right? It's pretty close with half the series though.

I really like the whole crew though, it's really hard to choose between Kaylee, Wash, Mal and Simon for me although I'd probably be leaning slightly towards Kaylee because she is just so gorram cheerful.

Kaylee is adorable, and I am a fan of the whole Sinom/Kaylee undertone of some episodes. :)

Also, as of an hour and a half ago, I've now seen up through "Trashed", which leaves only 3 episodes for me to watch, I think.

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Postby roband » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:42 am UTC

Last episode is the best one, for me.

Jubal Early could well be my favourite character - AND HE'S NOT EVEN A REGULAR!

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Postby eSOANEM » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:46 am UTC

Kaylee/Simon are so adorable together, particularly because of how stupid Simon is when it comes to talking to her (even though it's not exactly a secret that she likes him to).

The scene at the beginning of the Message (which I think would be one of those last three episodes IIRC) is fun though because he's starting to not be stupid.

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Jubal Early could well be my favourite character - AND HE'S NOT EVEN A REGULAR!


Jubal is fun and, if there'd been a second series, I'd have loved to have had him in it. Still, I find I don't watch that episode as much as it deserves, maybe it's because it reminds me that it's over (I tend not to watch any of those on the last disc for the same reason I think).
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eSOANEM wrote:Kaylee/Simon are so adorable together, particularly because of how stupid Simon is when it comes to talking to her (even though it's not exactly a secret that she likes him to).

The scene at the beginning of the Message (which I think would be one of those last three episodes IIRC) is fun though because he's starting to not be stupid.


Yep, I just saw that scene. I don't think he can get any lower than that, haha.

Of course, youtube had to take down the rest of the episode, so I've only seen the first 1/3 of it, and had a bitch of a time finding it elsewhere, but I'm watching those last three episodes now, because 20 years is too long to be alive and not able to honestly say, "I've watched Firefly." XD

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Postby SirBryghtside » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:04 pm UTC

Hey, it's not so bad. I watched Back To The Future for the first time on Tuesday!
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Postby EvanED » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:03 pm UTC

Only watch after seeing the end of The Message. But then definitely watch.

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Postby roband » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:04 pm UTC

My favourite of the 'extras'. So so funny

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Postby Belial » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:38 pm UTC

My favorite episode is Ariel, if for nothing else than the confrontation between Mal and Jayne in the airlock at the end. That remains my favorite scene in the entirety of firefly.
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Postby drego642 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:32 am UTC

Belial wrote:My favorite episode is Ariel, if for nothing else than the confrontation between Mal and Jayne in the airlock at the end. That remains my favorite scene in the entirety of firefly.

That's got to be one of my favorite scenes. Ever since we saw what Jayne did, I was hoping there would be a proper confrontation scene, and that definitely lived up to, and surpassed, my expectations. :D

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Postby Radical_Initiator » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:22 am UTC

Belial wrote:My favorite episode is Ariel, if for nothing else than the confrontation between Mal and Jayne in the airlock at the end. That remains my favorite scene in the entirety of firefly.

Couldn't agree more. But then again, I thought the whole episode was the top of the game. "Ariel" and then "Objects in Space". Wasn't a big fan of "The Message" or "Safe", but I'll happily watch any and all Firefly episodes over 90% of television right now.
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Postby SlyReaper » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:49 pm UTC

Not sure whether to get hopes up.

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Postby drego642 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:59 am UTC

Well, my hopes are up! :D

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Postby Radical_Initiator » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:17 am UTC

drego642 wrote:Well, my hopes are up! :D

Don't do that. Joss will crush your hopes faster and harder than a beloved character in Act III.
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Postby drego642 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:49 am UTC

Hmm. Fair enough. I'll be skeptically hopeful then.

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Postby Spambot5546 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:21 pm UTC

I was initially confused because by the time I got to the article it had already been updated to say "no, there's no reboot."
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Postby UniqueScreenname » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:44 am UTC

Having just finished Serenity and thus the entire series for the first time, I have to say
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Inara was seriously the most useless character for the entire movie, but they kill Wash instead of her?!?!?! Seriously, despite the fact that she is assuredly going to get shot at, she goes into battle with less clothes than when she's "working", and I swear I saw her walk into the room before the Reavers get there, take a position, and then show up on the ship after it was all over. They weren't even trying to hide the fact that she had no real purpose in the movie other than how she looked. And so, you would think that since she lived and Wash died, at least there would be some sort of romantic union between her and Mal, since that is the other half of her bi-dimensionalism, but no. They just keep on playing their stupid games as if nothing happened. It's so frustrating.
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UniqueScreenname wrote:Having just finished Serenity and thus the entire series for the first time, I have to say
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Inara was seriously the most useless character for the entire movie, but they kill Wash instead of her?!?!?! Seriously, despite the fact that she is assuredly going to get shot at, she goes into battle with less clothes than when she's "working", and I swear I saw her walk into the room before the Reavers get there, take a position, and then show up on the ship after it was all over. They weren't even trying to hide the fact that she had no real purpose in the movie other than how she looked. And so, you would think that since she lived and Wash died, at least there would be some sort of romantic union between her and Mal, since that is the other half of her bi-dimensionalism, but no. They just keep on playing their stupid games as if nothing happened. It's so frustrating.


I don't care, because we got this instead:

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